September 11th, 2001: Inside Job?

It's been 11 and a half years now, and a lot more evidence is available today than was available in the early years. What's your take on it?

Personally, i believed the official story at first, but over the years, the story unraveled. Am i alone in thinking the official story has holes in it?

just one point, do you really think it was possible for the "terrorists" passport to fly out of his pocket, out of the cockpit, out of the building, hang in limbo till the building falls, then land in the pile of rubble??

same guy made the JFK bullet i think...

The "Magic" passport.

BTW, I put this thread in the "Technology/Science" section, and not the politics section, because now that's it's been 12 years, it will take scientists to solve it once and for all, even though it could have gone in either section.

This is a private poll, too.

You are not alone but the numbers are shrinking. Just as with the JFK conspiracy there will always be those who believe it. There are many people who still think evolution is a myth, so no amount of science is gonna help that crowd.

I feel there are far too many odd coincidences for the story to be completely true. I feel that the government was aware of the plans ahead of time, but chose not to prevent them because it gave them a reason to invade the middle east (again). The attack, in itself, possibly could have been the sole product of terrorists, but the government jazzed it up a bit to make their case stronger.

total us coverup

13 familes/illuminati....look em up. People are corrupt. The 13 families is like the mafia, but more money, more power, and they minipulate and control just about everything in todays world.

heres a good documentary that examines 9/11. Oh its 57 min 31 secs in. But, If you like these kind of documentaries i suggest you watch the whole video.

Cannabiology said:

I feel there are far too many odd coincidences for the story to be completely true. I feel that the government was aware of the plans ahead of time, but chose not to prevent them because it gave them a reason to invade the middle east (again). The attack, in itself, possibly could have been the sole product of terrorists, but the government jazzed it up a bit to make their case stronger.

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I used to think that. The government had advanced knowledge, and just allowed it to happen. Now i think many had advanced knowledge, and many were complicit in the act, though probably only a few key operators knew the specific plan. Ashcroft had been told by Cunnalingus Rice to avoid air travel. Bush knew enough to know that he was safe to stay in that classroom. Think about it, if Dubya had just been told that America was under attack, and the President's current location was available to the public, on national TV, and he had no advanced knowledge, it would be logical to assume that he would be a target, and he should leave, ASAP. He didn't. He stayed, perfectly comfortable in the knowledge that the attacks were far away.

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"If you don't believe the official story, you are bat-shit crazy, and on the same level as every nutty conspiracy theorist ever."

That's the message you will always see in the popular press.

No coincidence they (the MSM) are owned by the same people who own the politicians. Kinda hard to believe either of them.

I only watch the News, cuz if there is a earthquake or some other disaster, im fairly certain they cant lie about that. other than that its no better than, one of those stupid reality shows like operation repo (wtf is that lame shit).. Amish Mafia, hahahaha.. punchline of the year.

CSI Stickyicky said:

"If you don't believe the official story, you are bat-shit crazy, and on the same level as every nutty conspiracy theorist ever."

That's the message you will always see in the popular press.

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The message you will see here is, conspiracy theories have no problem anomaly hunting and making as many assumptions as needed to reach it's conclusion. They also possess the ability to see any counter evidence as further proving the theory.

For example, it was alleged that the Govt or some other group provided the gun Lee Harvey Oswald used to kill JFK. A picture was discovered of LHO holding the gun that was taken several years earlier, proving that he was not given the gun. Conspiracy theorists simply said the photo was doctored and therefore only proves how big and expansive the conspiracy is. They now use the photo to support their theory.

It has been asked how the govt could cover up 911 when they could not even cover up Clinton's blowjob. Theorists simply say that the incident was purposely leaked and reported so as to throw off people who would later ask about 911. Any evidence against the theory is turned into evidence for the theory, via the conspiracy.

There is also the code of silence that all conspiracy theories seem to enjoy. Not one official has found Jesus and had a change of heart. Not one deathbed confession, not one leaked email, not one guilt ridden participant coming forward with the truth...yet the entire internet seems to know all the details.

The way conspiracy theorists typically act is only a distraction from looking at only the facts of this case. If you look specifically at this case, and look at the facts, you will see that it was a false flag attack that allowed US military to set up bases surrounding Iran.

CSI Stickyicky said:

The way conspiracy theorists typically act is only a distraction from looking at only the facts of this case. If you look specifically at this case, and look at the facts, you will see that it was a false flag attack that allowed US military to set up bases surrounding Iran.

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i've looked at the facts of 911 and everything that i've seen points towards it being an attack by muslims

what particular facts convinced you otherwise?

ginjawarrior said:

i've looked at the facts of 911 and everything that i've seen points towards it being an attack by muslims

what particular facts convinced you otherwise?

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all of their passports appearing...norad going dark...
expertise in the flight path of the pentagon...

why did you buy the story?

gioua said:

all of their passports appearing...

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all of thier passports? thats a new one have you got a link?

norad going dark...

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that too is a new one have you got a link?

expertise in the flight path of the pentagon...

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i didnt realise that you needed to be an expert to crash

why did you buy the story?

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after 911 i had a brief spell where i believed that it coud've been a false flag

i looked into it more and realised that all the "contradictory evidence" didnt add up to what the truthers were saying

CSI Stickyicky said:

The way conspiracy theorists typically act is only a distraction from looking at only the facts of this case. If you look specifically at this case, and look at the facts, you will see that it was a false flag attack that allowed US military to set up bases surrounding Iran.

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Not buying this theory... if the US wanted to build up a "force" near Iran it's simply a matter of talking to Israel.. who would welcome us in as would Turkey all within air range for any attack needed..

I am not sure what the reason was.. or reasons.. I am not 100% set it was any one agency pulling it off...