Senator Al Franken accused of sexual harassment

chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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We must address sexual harassment. Reforming arbitration laws will ensure survivors can seek justice in court. https://t.co/Rmuz4gnie7

— Sen. Al Franken (@SenFranken) October 11, 2017


Sexual harassment and violence are unacceptable. We all must do our part to listen, stand with, and support survivors.

— Sen. Al Franken (@SenFranken) October 23, 2017


Today I shared my plan to build on & expand work by @MNCASA1 to ensure sexual assault survivors receive trauma-informed response & justice. pic.twitter.com/dLOdfqIUtx

— Sen. Al Franken (@SenFranken) October 12, 2017

And the icing on the cake


I'm pleased we made steps to curb military sexual assault today, but I hope we can go further to bring justice to those affected. -Al

— Al Franken (@alfranken) March 7, 2014
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Well, it's disappointing.

Let's review.

Franken and Louis CK are caught up in the whirlwind of women finally standing up against sexual harrasment.

Both admitted it virtually immediately. Both offered up appologies, like a real man should.

Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Weiner & Cosby (to name a few), go into full denial mode in the face of some very credible evidence.

Weinstein & Cosby aren't in gov't., and will be handled by trails, lawsuits.

Weiner's going to serve time.

Trump and Moore?

Nothing?

How the fuck does that work?

The R is more important than the women?
Yes or fucking no? How fucking important is that R?
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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But why now?

Because the nation is going through a cathartic outpouring of such things. Every person who comes forward makes it a little easier for those that have not to do so.

So think about that with former judge Roy Moore. The timing is no excuse whatsoever and no indication of the accusers' political motivations.

Disappointed in Franken to be sure.
 
cindysid

cindysid

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Fogdog said:
He's going to have to suck it up and face the consequences. There is no other way. The problem is, if he did it once, he probably did it other times. There is no excuse.
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Very disappointing. Did he actually fondle her breast, or is he just acting like he would like to? She said she didn't know about it until seeing the pic. If someone grabbed my boobs, I would definitely wake up! Not an excuse, but my friends and I have been known to indulge in this type of humor. Bad taste, no doubt.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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cindysid said:
Very disappointing. Did he actually fondle her breast, or is he just acting like he would like to? She said she didn't know about it until seeing the pic. If someone grabbed my boobs, I would definitely wake up! Not an excuse, but my friends and I have been known to indulge in this type of humor. Bad taste, no doubt.
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I don't mean to belittle any of this but,

they have different 'schedules' for drugs, there must be different classifications of harassment?

Bush 41 and Franken would be a lower classification than a Moore with minors?

If you aren't forcing yourself on someone and just inappropriately touching them, is it less?

I'm just asking, I'm not justifying any of it.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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cindysid said:
Very disappointing. Did he actually fondle her breast, or is he just acting like he would like to? She said she didn't know about it until seeing the pic. If someone grabbed my boobs, I would definitely wake up! Not an excuse, but my friends and I have been known to indulge in this type of humor. Bad taste, no doubt.
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Yeah, messing with friends is one thing... he should have known better here though.

I've come to expect this type of shit from politicians and other public figures. Roy Moore, Donald Trump (from the party of "family values" no less) did not shock me at all. Al Franken though? I'm truly surprised, and disappointed. While I don't feel that what he did rises to the level of some of the other accusations that have surfaced lately, it's still a violation of someone and should not be tolerated.

I really did like Franken, and considered him a real option for potus in 2020. That's out the window now...
 
Fogdog

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cindysid said:
Very disappointing. Did he actually fondle her breast, or is he just acting like he would like to? She said she didn't know about it until seeing the pic. If someone grabbed my boobs, I would definitely wake up! Not an excuse, but my friends and I have been known to indulge in this type of humor. Bad taste, no doubt.
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Reading the article, he crossed the line by first insisting he kiss her in a skit, then insisting she kiss him during rehearsal, then when doing so when she had already expressed reluctance, gave her an open mouth french kiss, tongue and all. After her rebuke, he does some petty harassment and finally the photo of him acting like he was going to grope her. He wasn't a friend, had been given the brush off and he kept coming at her. He also wasn't a kid.

He wasn't a friend. He crossed the line. He apologized. She hasn't forgiven. It is it being petty to hold a grudge over this? I don't know but that's actually not for Franken to decide. From what she said, unlike Trump, Franken dropped it and didn't harass her thereafter. In my mind it isn't anything like what the pussy grabber in chief did but it's not nothing. That said, it's my bet other women show up to tell their story.

But yeah, my response is same as yours. Very disappointing. Not the outrage I feel when I hear Roy Moore's victims describe his actions. I don't vote in his state and so am just a bystander. If Franken runs for Prez, this would be some baggage to consider but isn't a deal breaker like the Alabama kiddy diddler's actions.
 
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