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SCROG Without Topping

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by Tim Fox, Nov 1, 2016.

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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    I need to know,, has anyone scrogged without topping,, good bad,,
     
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    GreatwhiteNorth

    GreatwhiteNorth Global Moderator Staff Member

    Seems like that would defeat the purpose of the SCROG.
    Just my .02 c.
     
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    Kcbscrogger

    Kcbscrogger Well-Known Member

    I always top before scrogging, something about leaving that stalk uncut that makes it fill out all kadiwampas.
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    i dont really know,, filling the screen is the goal i guess,, so I have 2 plants,, clones,, they are tall and linky,, its all i could get,, so either i top them,, and i mean,, cut off 6 inches or better,, and spread the lowest limbs,, OR,, i start the two main "tops" doing a circle around each other on the screen,,,
    now is it ok to hack off a 12 inch plant and turn it into a 6" plant,,
     
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    GreatwhiteNorth

    GreatwhiteNorth Global Moderator Staff Member

    I normally top at around the 4th node, let them grow a bit & top all those again.
    This allows the lower shoots to make it to the screen giving you many more buds.
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    i need to go count how many nodes there are,, problem is at the state legal store where i bough them, they were the shortest they had, but the way they have thier low power lights it was causing all the clones to stretch, there is like 6 inches between nodes,, i have to something about the height, i can bend them over big time and push them under a screen,, hence the not top,, ,, i suppose i could top right where I am at and do the same,,
    ill get a pic,, problem with the pic is the plants are still adjusting to the SIP,, kinda like hempy buckets,, where its a damp evironment, and they need to build water roots,, , not sure if you have dealt with hempy or SIPS,,,,, this is sorrta making me want to go back to the fabric grow bags at this point
     
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    GreatwhiteNorth

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    Budddha

    Budddha Well-Known Member

    U dont need to scrog u dont have enough foliage. the trellis would help support them but wih that small amount id just use a couple sticks cuz that wont ne too much. id definetly spread the bottom branches out. your going to have a ton extra room so spread as much as possible to try and fill up as much space as possible.

    To answer your question i scrog with out topping all the time. you just need more plants or more veg time. fill the whole area for the best results.
     
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    Tupapa

    Tupapa Well-Known Member

    Also u should check ur ph., Those plants look sick., Purple stems. Get the ph in between 6-7 for best nutrients uptake.

    - fix the problem and many deficiencies will go away...
    Overwatering & underwatering
    High humidity
    Uneven moisture levels in the soil or growing medium
    Too-high levels of N-P-K nutrients
    PH is too high or low. I know u wasn't asking anything about that but if i was u i will focus first in keeping a healthy plant. GL
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    This is fully organic soil
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    The water comes out of my faucet at 6.5 the soil is ffof mixed with happy frog organic dry fert and some horse and chicken compost
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    [QUOTE="Tupapa, post: 13097522, member: 94820whAlso u should check ur ph., Those plants look sick., Purple stems. Get the ph in between 6-7 for best nutrients uptake.

    - fix the problem and many deficiencies will go away...
    Overwatering & underwatering
    High humidity
    Uneven moisture levels in the soil or growing medium
    Too-high levels of N-P-K nutrients
    PH is too high or low. I know u wasn't asking anything about that but if i was u i will focus first in keeping a healthy plant. GL[/QUOTE]
    The plants have been in !y box only 3 days , what you see is how they came to me
     
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    Tupapa

    Tupapa Well-Known Member

    The plants have been in !y box only 3 days , what you see is how they came to me[/QUOTE]
    Just ma 2 cents. Take it with a grain of Salt. Im just saying u should fix that first. Plant health. GL bruh
     
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    Tupapa

    Tupapa Well-Known Member

    Let them adjust to the soil then, u should be ok. Do u own a ph pen?
     
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    Tupapa

    Tupapa Well-Known Member

    Is not completely organic. But its awesome soil. U should be ok. GL
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    doesnt need to be,, not something i strive for,, i like easy
    the SIP has them damp,, and there is nothing i can do to dry them out,, SIPs control thier own moisture,,
    but its screwing with my grow at the moment,, and i am about to rip them out and put them in fabric sacks
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    it is very possble for me to repot them,, and its something i am seriously considering right now,,
     
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    Tupapa

    Tupapa Well-Known Member

    Go for it!!
     
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    Tupapa

    Tupapa Well-Known Member

    Do u own a ph pen?
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

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