Saving a bad crop

If it smells like hay you dried to fast.
If it’s lite n airy, colder temps & higher humidity will slow down drying,
If it’s lite n airy, your ether not giving it enough light or it’s to hot, or both .
Bulbs don’t last forever and should be changed out, long before they burn out.
STAY OUT OF YOUR ROOM DURING LIGHTS OUT, (sleep less or schedule your time better)
If your ash is black and hard, that’s because
You stopped feeding n flushed , then gave it a bunch of sugar at the end, this went into the bud, you can introduce sugars at the end but you need to really pay attention to the cure, and need a long slow cure to break it down. (I’m playing with this now)

Here is something to read
http://catnews.org/FREE Pot Books/Curing Marijuana.pdf

Turn it into oil, and keep trying
Reading good books will help your learning curve ...
Oh, and it sounded like you agreed that my flush time was more than enough? I think it was about 10 days of pure RO water each day (about 2L/day) and also 1 day where I flushed about 10L + through each plant in the bathroom. I was never 100% sure if the harshness was from a bad flush. THanks for explaining it was the sugars I added.
 

BigHornBuds

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Go to the hardware store , buy some plywood n build a light proof box.
12 hrs of 100% dark is very important
30% is to low in veg , think double
A fan isn’t only for heat removal, it helps build strength in the stems , it removes 02 made by the plant and brings new c02 .

I hang till outside is dry, but can still bend stock with out it breaking , then into 5 gallon plastic buckets to sweat from about 12hrs
Then depending on dampness, they might go onto drying racks, till outside crips up, then back into the bucket, opening once or twice a day, till Rx% is staying stable around 60-65 % then I put 62% packs in once stable then open every few days , I some times do this for months .
The oldest buds I got now where grown last July .

Do a search on loopypopping here , will help yeild n help cut back on popcorn airy buds .

But fix the light 1st
After you built the box , turn on lots of lights n get in the box n wait 5min for your eyes to adjust, then fix all the light leaks .
Then do it again , till no more light,
Then when it’s dark, stay out of there.


But 90% of the time if you half ass it you’ll get half ass smoke .
 

BigHornBuds

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Flushing is subjective and everyone has their own opinion ...
flushing is to put 3x the volume of the container in water through the pot.
I give straight water for 7-10 days before cutting. No flushinging .
If your worried, monitor your ppms in run off. Adjust accordingly, I do this from start to finish,
 
Go to the hardware store , buy some plywood n build a light proof box.
12 hrs of 100% dark is very important
30% is to low in veg , think double
A fan isn’t only for heat removal, it helps build strength in the stems , it removes 02 made by the plant and brings new c02 .

I hang till outside is dry, but can still bend stock with out it breaking , then into 5 gallon plastic buckets to sweat from about 12hrs
Then depending on dampness, they might go onto drying racks, till outside crips up, then back into the bucket, opening once or twice a day, till Rx% is staying stable around 60-65 % then I put 62% packs in once stable then open every few days , I some times do this for months .
The oldest buds I got now where grown last July .

Do a search on loopypopping here , will help yeild n help cut back on popcorn airy buds .

But fix the light 1st
After you built the box , turn on lots of lights n get in the box n wait 5min for your eyes to adjust, then fix all the light leaks .
Then do it again , till no more light,
Then when it’s dark, stay out of there.


But 90% of the time if you half ass it you’ll get half ass smoke .
Ha ha...yes I agree. I did everything right I assumed from things people advised via posts, videos, websites, talking to the store clerk who grows, etc. I built a box too, months ago. It's on 5 wheels, insulated, has hangers for lights, fan, exhaust filter etc, it's 4x4x8 made of plywood and 2x4's. It's in my garage, but it's too cold out there so i'm growing in my PC room. That way the heater benefits me too, plus my garage is cold and it was constantly heating the air coming in from there vs. being inside where the temps don't change as easily. I tried watching movies after the 12hr cycle with a blanket over the monitor and figured a little light is just moonlight. Some nights they only got around 1-2hrs sleep in total darkness (excluding PC mouse, PC inner fans, heater power LED)

I'm going to move my PC to the other room and buy a second heater for myself I don't want to build anything else or move anything. I will take the clones with me and grow them in the other room too (the new PC room).

No, no...you wait till the stock snaps haha. That's what I did. As I think I mentioned in an earlier post, I think it was harsh from being dried too quick. People said 7 days. I thought it was dry enough after 1. Since mine was so light and fluffy (Looked good from a distance), it dried in no-tine. 30% is too low but i'm in my house and have other factors. I'm going to increase it for flower, but my plant is growing fine at 30%. it's 36% now at 26c degrees. Should be a bit cooler at night than day helps I guess. Follow nature, I know... Pic attached of them all currently. :)
I don't want to mess up my new grows though so I do appreciate the advice everyone has. Trimming a few lower fan leaves and branches here and there over the next week is what I believe I need to do with my plant. Why? Because it's to help more nutrients go to the flower production. Right? Overtime so not to shock it too.

I'm doing LST on it as you can see from the spaghetti orange. The clones are using a different light colour so I have to remove it from the room. I need to transplant them into bigger pots too. It's ok the roots are soaking in the bottom of the trays I assume. I was told no, but they seem to love it and it drys up with the low humidity anyhow. Make sense? I don't have a PPM tester unfortunately. The odd leaves show up from time to time with signs of something wrong. Usually a dead leaf at the base of the plant. I assume that's just lack of light. Little edges burned on a leaf in a blue moon which I just pull and then don't see any more signs of it continuing.
What's the Rx%? Seems like a random acronym to me haha. I was going to sweat in plastic garbage bags bags. I'd have to buy pails with lids. I have done that process before so haven't got around to learning up on it much yet. Tried making some concentrate - won't go there lol.

Plan in my head at present,
* Move PC to spare room and make that new night room. Plant gets to keep current setup and get total darkness. I buy a new heater for the other room.
* I switch from 18 to 12 slowly. I got DNF Veg&Bloom so it's pretty simple.
* I need to trim some of the bottom branches and leaves as they're just taking up resources. Do you keep all fan leaves and remove branches and other leaves? Some say don't touch the fan leaves, but I think I might need to trim it up.
* I was told roots grow based more on plant height? Mine's about 15" high Indica. 250W light is about 15" off the canopy. I sometimes see some sweat on the leaves, but no signs of concern as far as disease goes. I was a bit concerned by it's size if the pot is big enough once it starts flowering. I think they're 7L pots.
* humidity will be more important during the flowering stage I'm guessing. It won't be above 60%.
* I plan to flush it longer than 2 weeks. I saw some growers doing 7' plants with 5week flush.
* Need to study up on curing.

Everyone claims they know how to grow great weed, and many can, but there is always someone doing it better. The trick is not to mix up steps from 1 grower with another. I'm sure you knew, but I'm growing in coco noir. I use Super Thrive too. Likely more than I should haha. Um 2-3 drops /2L. Again, I see no signs of problems from that but doesn't mean it helps either. I think it's 1 drop /L recommended.

The 3 mistakes from the first grow was 2 plants 1x 250w HPS. Now 1 plant. I trimmed 50 fan leaves in the 3rd week of flower (Internet told me to). I leaked monitor light many times. The humidity wasn't never going to be perfect. I dried it way too fast and likely trapped all the chlorophyll making it harsh. Also told adding the sugars wasn't going to make it any smoother. Fix all that and I believe I should have something decent to show you. Sweat it, Jar it and add a humidity pack, open jars, and wait I presume.

The base with a 4 way stop :) I had to tape one up because it split during knuckling and was drying out inside. Some etape applied and a brace did the trick. Now it's grown tight within the tape making a good seal.

The 2 jars are the yield of 2 plants LOL You can see it smoked black ash too. MMMmmm. That was my 1st grow ever. No excuse though I know. Cat got at the plant a lot too which slowed stuff down. and really, 50 fan leaves...it didn't have a chance.

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Flushing is subjective and everyone has their own opinion ...
flushing is to put 3x the volume of the container in water through the pot.
I give straight water for 7-10 days before cutting. No flushinging .
If your worried, monitor your ppms in run off. Adjust accordingly, I do this from start to finish,
You're right, and that's what I did and then some. I ran water for 10 days or so just as if it was feeding time, but also took them to the bathtub and ran about 10-15L through it. A PPM meter is on my list of things to buy. I'm for flushing. It makes sense to do it naturally similar to nature vs pushing 3x the water through in a day or 2.
 
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