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Hey Guys/Gals,
It has come to my attention that other users are mistreating each other, we are a cannabis family and this will not be tolerated any longer, rollitup has always strived to be a tight knit family however with our growing popularity we are getting larger. Progress cannot be stopped only embraced however we have always gone by the "No Rules" and "Freedom Of speech policy" however this is true to an extent blatant disregard for moderators and other users will not be tolerated and will deserve you an infraction or a ban depending on the severity.
Disagreements are fine and they usually generate a good discussion however why verbally abuse somebody while trying to make your point, this does not only defeat the discussion it makes you look like an idiot. Online users as well as "real life" people have feelings so why go out of your way to be a dick. This will not be tolerated any longer and we have been fairly easy on this up until now.
Please take into consideration that people have "real life" problems, someone might be having a bad day and want to come use rollitup for some relaxation, please do not ruin another users experience. This is the only warning I will be giving.
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https://www.rollitup.org/support/47767-attention-users-will-not-tolerated.html#post517779
Seamaiden
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Indeed.
However, I still stand by my previous statements regarding policing of all who attack or abuse. It simply isn't done, and it appears to me that with so few mods/admins cannot really be done. What ends up happening is that it's basically applied to those who are caught, or... ?? I notice immediately that you make red (noticeable) the bit about not attacking moderators, and that tends to "bury" the rest of it, the bit about the rule applying to all members. Can you see how that might lead someone to the conclusion that you're essentially putting yourself above others in importance?
Here we appear to have a member who, from what those of us on the "outside" are able to determine, has not violated this rule, yet is banned (I would have said appears to be banned, but you've confirmed that she was, indeed, banned). In the meantime, it's quite easy to find many other examples of clear abuse in the form of very personal attacks, and many of those who continue with the poor behavior seem to be able to do so with apparent impunity. So, when folks see that, what then? Keep our mouths shut? That's not exactly conducive to the "family" or community feeling.
I certainly expect unity among site admins and mods, but I also rather expect some fairness when such rules are applied. When such rules are put into place, especially when you're working with such a large site, you set yourselves up for observations when you do whatever it is that you do, as well as requiring a LOT of policing.
Honestly, fdd (and CALI, rollitup, et alia), if we cannot find what Lacy did that brought about her banning, then what else are we to think except that it involved a private and personal exchange between the two of you?
I understand that making my observations may lead to me being banned as well, but at least I haven't shelled out any of my own hard-earned cash for the privilege.
However, I still stand by my previous statements regarding policing of all who attack or abuse. It simply isn't done, and it appears to me that with so few mods/admins cannot really be done. What ends up happening is that it's basically applied to those who are caught, or... ?? I notice immediately that you make red (noticeable) the bit about not attacking moderators, and that tends to "bury" the rest of it, the bit about the rule applying to all members. Can you see how that might lead someone to the conclusion that you're essentially putting yourself above others in importance?
Here we appear to have a member who, from what those of us on the "outside" are able to determine, has not violated this rule, yet is banned (I would have said appears to be banned, but you've confirmed that she was, indeed, banned). In the meantime, it's quite easy to find many other examples of clear abuse in the form of very personal attacks, and many of those who continue with the poor behavior seem to be able to do so with apparent impunity. So, when folks see that, what then? Keep our mouths shut? That's not exactly conducive to the "family" or community feeling.
I certainly expect unity among site admins and mods, but I also rather expect some fairness when such rules are applied. When such rules are put into place, especially when you're working with such a large site, you set yourselves up for observations when you do whatever it is that you do, as well as requiring a LOT of policing.
Honestly, fdd (and CALI, rollitup, et alia), if we cannot find what Lacy did that brought about her banning, then what else are we to think except that it involved a private and personal exchange between the two of you?
I understand that making my observations may lead to me being banned as well, but at least I haven't shelled out any of my own hard-earned cash for the privilege.
Twistyman
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Good mornind Mr. fdd & all....Please know that as the one who started this thread
I specifically told everyone that there are 2 sides to the penny and that only one side had at that time been voiced..Being a weekend and a Sunday to boot I did not want, illicit or accept any crap without the reply which I knew would follow... Fair is, as fair does....You are and have been a more than fair moderator, and on more than one occasion have joined in the banter with both a parenting hand and yes at times an acidic tongue........which to your benefit
has only gone to strenghten your on-line persona......and maybe your off-line one too..There was no disrespect directed at, or intended for, you or any other person who created and maintain a site that we all obviously enjoy and partake
in..... as far as assuming......well we all know, and at times have done the sin of not reading all, and completely, the entire post before they start their rant.......
thats always been a human foible.....jumping 1st....thinking 2nd......................
shit look at old twisty......both feet, fucked leg, pot belly and head 1st.....it was just.......well.........Lacy's fun, and one of the few people who other people like to follow on her exploits.........lacy's garden & fdd's guitar.......... and a puff.................what's more better on a Saturday morning ?.......
* just a final point...Lacy did not specify when was the friction point and what It was.....Confidence was kept by Lacy about actual subject.........and I'm a curious fuck and she at no time divulged any exact reason...........personal borders were never breached................................................twisty
Twistyman
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The on-line community is a strange place...we assume, we accept, we believe and don't, everything. At some sites...(this one for sure) the very fact that it's not quite legal seems to tighten those beliefs that we are 1....we're not.......sadly.
We readily argue growing styles, lights, soil,.....etc.....We like and hate each others politics.......everyones parent has said..."that mouth is going to get you in trouble".........smart people who we used to think dumb, go figure.....pot calling kettle.
Stoned people make strange bedfellows..
......Thats the problem here...We start to, What we think is know people on-line, when we really don't.........we feel more secure here than in person, and thus may say stupid, mean, sexist and plain rude things..I've done it....& before I realized that you could delete shit....old twisty..sharp as a tack......
We readily argue growing styles, lights, soil,.....etc.....We like and hate each others politics.......everyones parent has said..."that mouth is going to get you in trouble".........smart people who we used to think dumb, go figure.....pot calling kettle.
Stoned people make strange bedfellows..
......Thats the problem here...We start to, What we think is know people on-line, when we really don't.........we feel more secure here than in person, and thus may say stupid, mean, sexist and plain rude things..I've done it....& before I realized that you could delete shit....old twisty..sharp as a tack......
SocataSmoker
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Woo hoo, she's unbanned... twisty get her back posting!
SocataSmoker
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"Lacy has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."
Twistyman
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Shes a tad shy.....o no what did they do to her ????
I'm going to get killed when she sees that..........................
jimmyspaz
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Yeah well, we went out for a minute but we're back now.
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I know it is easy to jump all over FDD because of this ban, but lets remember its easy to hate the one with the power. Can anyone deny that FDD has been one of the most level headed and intelligent people on this site? I'm not saying one side is right or wrong, but until you know the whole story, don't start pointing fingers.
On a personal note, lacy was a nice addition to this website. If she doesn't come back I will miss her posts. But, her banning is something that I have to trust FDD did because he had to...
On a personal note, lacy was a nice addition to this website. If she doesn't come back I will miss her posts. But, her banning is something that I have to trust FDD did because he had to...
this is almost starting to fall under .........
https://www.rollitup.org/support/16130-goodbye-threads.html
just with a different spin on it.
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https://www.rollitup.org/support/16130-goodbye-threads.html
just with a different spin on it.
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