RSO vs QWISO

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
So I just watched a video on Rick Simpson Oil.

They wash their bud for 3 WHOLE MINS!!! WHA?????

The stuff came out like black tar!

How much more THC and Cannaboids do you think they are getting for washing it that long versus a quick 30 sec wash?

Am I missing something here?
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
They have a lower cannabinoid ratio... it extracts a lot of chlorophyll wax and nastiness, definitely not something you want to smoke....
It extracts something like 80% of thc on contact
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
They have a lower cannabinoid ratio... it extracts a lot of chlorophyll wax and nastiness, definitely not something you want to smoke....
It extracts something like 80% of thc on contact
don't most dabbers really look down on the rso qwizoking?
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
RSO is absolutely not for dabbing or anything lung related it's for ingestion only. The method you saw in the video was improvised to show people how they could help the sick immediately. Rick simpson personally used naptha allot and that has wreaked havoc with copy cats failing the due diligence to be fucking with naptha. It's not recreational oil making tek at ALL, so he can guck it up plenty as much first timers will anyways because of the safety in ingestion. Not that i'd eat iso rso made in no dam rice cooker made by anyone else. Tek has moved miles ahead so even if you wanna do iso rso, the mason jar hand pump vac goes allot further to clean it up than the video.
 

qwizoking

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He's used naphtha acetone (paint thinner) changed his methods pretty frequently...also tells people cannabinoids neutralize any toxin and used to tell people not to even worry about purging...not to mention crazy prices ripping people off....he says outright he has no scientific background

I find it offensive people call any hash concentrate rso..he didn't invent anything...didn't even make it widely known..he somehow got popular and he regulates his site and Facebook etc so all you see is brainwashed morons

He is definitely not well liked in the community and every knowledgeable person I know on this site has talked shit about him at least once....(I do mean every)
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
I always thought of a vac as heating without heat, lowering the boiling point allowing the trapped gasses to escape..hand Vacs are cheap and easy to use..effectively purge your product

Really only applies to hydrocarbon solvents....which is why you can effectively purge using etoh....none of this really applies to iso
 

Fadedawg

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RSO from Iso is heavy in chlorophyll, which gives some folks gastric upset in concentration, in the form of cramps, diarrhea, and vomiting. Naphtha ISO has little chlorophyll, but is heavy in waxes and us often poorly purged.

Naphtha only specifies a boiling point, not what is in it, and frequently contains Benzene, a known carcinogen. Rick and I've discussed that issue, even on national radio, but he has been this far unmoved to stop specifying naphtha, and believes it has properties unlike anything else.

One theory is that the residual naphtha ties up the liver and allows the cannabinoids to last longer, but residual naphtha poisonings have also been reported.

To me, the name RSO oil, specifies oil that has been extracted using naphtha and a rice cooker, using Ricks published methods. I salute Rick for what he did to advance medical cannabis, but reject his methods as archaic even dangerous, from the standpoint of the solvent he specifies and his purging process for adequately removing residuals.

To dispel any personal biases, opinions, or secondary motives from the formula, I extracted one lot of Blue Dream using five different solvents, including Naphtha. I ran GC analysis in our own lab, and turned the samples over to a third party full blown analytical lab for testing, to show what the different solvents extract from the same material. More on that, when the lab sends the results.
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
RSO from Iso is heavy in chlorophyll, which gives some folks gastric upset in concentration, in the form of cramps, diarrhea, and vomiting. Naphtha ISO has little chlorophyll, but is heavy in waxes and us often poorly purged.

Naphtha only specifies a boiling point, not what is in it, and frequently contains Benzene, a known carcinogen. Rick and I've discussed that issue, even on national radio, but he has been this far unmoved to stop specifying naphtha, and believes it has properties unlike anything else.

One theory is that the residual naphtha ties up the liver and allows the cannabinoids to last longer, but residual naphtha poisonings have also been reported.

To me, the name RSO oil, specifies oil that has been extracted using naphtha and a rice cooker, using Ricks published methods. I salute Rick for what he did to advance medical cannabis, but reject his methods as archaic even dangerous, from the standpoint of the solvent he specifies and his purging process for adequately removing residuals.

To dispel any personal biases, opinions, or secondary motives from the formula, I extracted one lot of Blue Dream using five different solvents, including Naphtha. I ran GC analysis in our own lab, and turned the samples over to a third party full blown analytical lab for testing, to show what the different solvents extract from the same material. More on that, when the lab sends the results.
LOL i remember that interview, i remember he was going on an on in grampa mode that this magic elixir naptha that he was getting from a factory nobody else in society can approach. I felt you through the phone lines burning up, I'm like do it GW do it slam some msds facts that end this shit, cuzz people are calling in and saying there poison soup refuses to evap. It's just iresponsible like saying go get bitten by another snake I've gotten good results finding antivenom that way. I wanna hate on him so hard but nobody was around when he was around, fuck man I remember running around trying to find a coffee warmer for my second hand rice cooker. I thought that iso tar was the SHIT! so I hold back cuzz I feel I owe the guy for inspiring me, fuck even what 6 months ago before i even knew what shatter was I wanted into the game cuzz i thought i could make "good rso" but yeah the term is basically starting to create allot of newbie confusion because the general public looking to help there aunt's cancer is going to try to DIY it and when you search for that youtube gives you a mess.

I really wish there was some way I could help push HAO's Holy Shit recipe as the real RSO of today. It just wipes the floor diy tech wise, to be able to grab a gram of bho plus 3 or 4 ingredients and 7 mins later in the toaster your spooning it under your gums. Fudgen rice cooker is still in my bathroom closet from that rso run 4 years ago.
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
Fade since where talking about the real rso, HAO.
I've found I havn't been able to increase the impact rate, most older women who use it all say it's about 1 1/2 hr's which is still closer to food.
I don't have acetate skills, but how long do you find your holy shit taking? Im wondering if my cinnamon bark oil isn't enough as i have to bust the oil out of a capsul with bark bits in it. Do you know which ingredient is the main contributor to the sublingual cross into the blood stream? maybe i'm not using enough "0.333mg micro drops. It's so hard to measure when your not doing 10 grams. I'm a real believer in this method as edible's have always been an unknown for me and I get stomach cramps from eating mj plant material.
 

qwizoking

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I don't like juicing or eating plant material..I guess the cause is calcium oxalate crystals...lick the stem it'll burn your tongue on some plants
As far as faster absorption goes you want it more polar.. say glycerine...I dont know what's in the hao
Just to throw this out there and brag a bit..I did end up making some hash suitable for insufflation:)
Need a lot though..probly won't do it again..still working on my extended release pill
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
Dam qwizo you made weed snuff! if in 20 year's dabs are for old ppl and everyone is snorting oil I'll blame you.
Holy anointing oil. http://skunkpharmresearch.com/holy-anointing-oil-and-holy-shit/
Im using organic coconut oil, I'm not a fan of glycerin in my mouth due to frequent ejuice spills in my mouth from silly vaping.
I get super itchy, bumpy and swollen when handling weed. I've never known what it was, your probably right about the oxalate's being the source of my cramps from edibles. I handle oxalic acid decently so long as nobody fucks up the rhubarb but I wonder if it's the same culprit for my skin.
 

Fadedawg

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Fade since where talking about the real rso, HAO.
I've found I havn't been able to increase the impact rate, most older women who use it all say it's about 1 1/2 hr's which is still closer to food.
I don't have acetate skills, but how long do you find your holy shit taking? Im wondering if my cinnamon bark oil isn't enough as i have to bust the oil out of a capsul with bark bits in it. Do you know which ingredient is the main contributor to the sublingual cross into the blood stream? maybe i'm not using enough "0.333mg micro drops. It's so hard to measure when your not doing 10 grams. I'm a real believer in this method as edible's have always been an unknown for me and I get stomach cramps from eating mj plant material.
I can feel head effects in about three minutes, but full uptake takes about 30/45 minutes.

The cinnamon bark and leaf oil clean the receptors of partially dismantled neutrotransmitters and dialates the blood vessels to speed up and increase uptake.

I used 10 grams in the formula, to make it easy to make fractional batches. For instance, if you start with two grams of oil instead, multiply the other ingredients quantities by 0.2.
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
I think I had trouble with the 0.2 of a drop part, I tried measuring on a scale a drop of coconut oil. Hopefully i didn't do funny math but I swear in your 10 gram recipe your only using 1 drop of each and 3x the coconut oil. If that's still true i think I have problems dispensing it. If Im wrong maybe i just havn't added enough cinnamon and gum myrr oil. I wondered if my doses were right because they seemed way lower than the daily recommendation for use as an isolated product.

Im getting good results with people so im happy with the 7 minutes of heaven decarb toaster method, I just wondered cuzz yeah I was expecting 30/45 and im getting 1 1/2 which sounds more like they ate the oil.
 

Fadedawg

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I think I had trouble with the 0.2 of a drop part, I tried measuring on a scale a drop of coconut oil. Hopefully i didn't do funny math but I swear in your 10 gram recipe your only using 1 drop of each and 3x the coconut oil. If that's still true i think I have problems dispensing it. If Im wrong maybe i just havn't added enough cinnamon and gum myrr oil. I wondered if my doses were right because they seemed way lower than the daily recommendation for use as an isolated product.

Im getting good results with people so im happy with the 7 minutes of heaven decarb toaster method, I just wondered cuzz yeah I was expecting 30/45 and im getting 1 1/2 which sounds more like they ate the oil.
It depends on the dropper size. Theoretically, the drop will be about three times the size of the hole in the dropper, but using a 1/2 oz bottle dropper, it takes about three drops for a 100 mg dose.
 
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