Root Clone Test - pictures

hotsxyman911

Active Member
cant you put like chicken wire or some kind of wire to hand the roots over while the bubbler is going and just put a lid on it, and the humidity and wetness will have moisture in the air to give to the roots, idk if this made sense because im really baked :bigjoint::leaf:
 

Hobbes

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That's an excellent idea HSM. I'll figure something out, I'm thinking a 4 or 5 inch hanging basket somehow. I'm going to get backed. Baked. Then I can think about this properly. Damn good idea, maybe some roots in the water and some hanging to see which work, or work quickest.

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bongsmilie
 

NickNasty

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Well I guess the # 1 benefit is that you could take clones off an already harvested plant. You could also get a ton of clones with very little effort. And for those of us who dont live in medical states where clone only strains are abundant it would be very easy to transport/ship these without the worry of getting caught.
 

reeferMaster

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Well I guess the # 1 benefit is that you could take clones off an already harvested plant. You could also get a ton of clones with very little effort. And for those of us who dont live in medical states where clone only strains are abundant it would be very easy to transport/ship these without the worry of getting caught.
this is certainly a good thing but i dont understand how this actually works and how long would it take 2 have a actual clone, i dont c how just using some roots a clone will grow out, ive heard of haveing a dormant stalk and root ball that can reveg but this seems 2 make no sense at al and i havent seen any pickture proving this works and is effective:clap: i would like some proof of this and then i will belive, sorry for my inconvience keep up the good work
 

Corp

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As they say it is a experimental try , if this works Hobbes and Sexy,it will be a revolution in technical use of plants

BIG kudos from me at last, thinking new ways are progress.

How can i give you credits for this guys

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this is certainly a good thing but i dont understand how this actually works and how long would it take 2 have a actual clone, i dont c how just using some roots a clone will grow out, ive heard of haveing a dormant stalk and root ball that can reveg but this seems 2 make no sense at al and i havent seen any pickture proving this works and is effective:clap: i would like some proof of this and then i will belive, sorry for my inconvience keep up the good work
 

nitetrain

Member
transporting clones for outdoor use would become a handful of roots...and I can see proof that the theory works in nature right outside my window. The trees and bushes in my yard have "suckers" growing into their own trees and bushes from exposed roots. Looking at that makes me think the root my have to become woody and be exposed to the environment for period of time.
 

grow plenty

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not being a nay sayer, but...why not just reveg after harvest? i reveged my bella-donna. in 8 days i seen new growth, 5 weeks later i cut 10 clones, stuck it back in flower closet and will harvest a second time in 4 weeks. i know all strains wont reveg in a week, but still it only takes a fraction of the time and you still keep your good strain....peace
 

reeferMaster

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reveg is great but consit of one plant and most likely transplanting, so why not use the old roots from when u reveg the plant, win win situation, better yet just use ur extra clones and grow out some mother plants, with this techniquie there would be no need for a mother room u would want a reveg room, i was also thinking about, using reveg for a grow op 2 see if it would produce , i wana try 24 in one gallon pots bud them and take the best 12, and reveg them in 3 gallon pots, and bud them, then possibly reveg in 5 gallon for out door use, one advantage i see 2 root cloning is that it will be nice 2 make clones from simple roots , but as far as i can tell wouldnt clones be better? they root in a week u can have a small tray of 50 clones in a small area, that will grow quickly, root cloning seems like it would take forever and produce small clones, does anyone have actually proof that this works and is a realiable resorce 2 growing?
 

Hobbes

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To reitterate and summarize my position on root cloning and the purpose of this thread, as stated on page 1 (lots of reading, don't blame anyone if they skipped it):

I have no use for hundreds of clones or waiting a month to get one clone - but I have made the technique work and have made the claim on the forum that it works so it's my responsibility to prove my claim. With the help of other forum members we are going to prove that root cloning works and if someone wants several hundred, or several tens of thousands, of genetically identical sprouts then we will have a simple cost and space effective technique for them.

I don't know if planting cloned sprouts will be advantageous for commercial growers: RC may be too slow; cuttings cloned in rockwool might be simple, cheap and fast enough that nothing else is needed. Home growers might rather fill a bubbler with cuttings. But the technique will be there if they do need it or want to try it, I'll leave the usability up to the individual grower.

And that's all I've got to say about that.

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bongsmilie
 

mrduke

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i'm in the process of giveing this a try also. I put a small handful of roots from a veging bubba kush that was on a flood table, the roots were sticking 6-8"out of the bottom of the 6" pot. So when i transplanted them i took some of the roots that i couldnt get threw the pot holes. Placed them in a 4x4 pot filled with happy frog soil that was damp and coverd with saran wrap and foil to block light. This was done on jan 18,nothing doing so far. I check it out once a week so we'll see what happens would be cool if it worked :)
 

mrduke

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Hobbes--- how do you think you would transplant these clones? arnt all the roots tangled together in one root ball? would you just cut the sprout w/ some roots and hope for the best or what?
 

Hobbes

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Hey Mrduke, kudos on running a test!

I separate the roots gently before putting them in pro mix/bubbler but they get tangled again from fluffing the mix or the bubbles.

After my first run I picked a couple of root clones up individually, there were dozens just laying there by themselves. The ones that had clumped I sorted a few out before throwing the bunch in the garbage. The clump was like a handful of earth worms, easy to separate.

"would you just cut the sprout w/ some roots and hope for the best or what?"

Most of them should separate after wards, but it's good to separate the roots before cloning.. I don't know if breaking them will kill them like a sprout or not matter like a root - we will find out.

To plant them it's just like a normal sprout except you might get some root clones 12" long - whatever the length of the roots we use.

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bongsmilie
 

That 5hit

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I just don't see the point of this, why not just cut clones off the plant?
who knows, you maybe stranded in a forest some where with some seeds and noway to clone , you may have no root hormes or bubbler on hand

IDK - but this shit sounds cool and any and all information is allways somehow usefull -
if anything it could be a last ditch effort at cloning something that failed to reveg or a plant that you forgat to clone off of

also i think i read somewhere that cloning this way gives the plant a stronger stable genes. whereas branch clones are the same age as the mother plants makeing a plant that you have been cloneing year after year old as hell. whereas a root clone would be equal to growing from seed each time
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
i'm in the process of giveing this a try also. I put a small handful of roots from a veging bubba kush that was on a flood table, the roots were sticking 6-8"out of the bottom of the 6" pot. So when i transplanted them i took some of the roots that i couldnt get threw the pot holes. Placed them in a 4x4 pot filled with happy frog soil that was damp and coverd with saran wrap and foil to block light. This was done on jan 18,nothing doing so far. I check it out once a week so we'll see what happens would be cool if it worked :)
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Hey Mrduke, kudos on running a test!

I separate the roots gently before putting them in pro mix/bubbler but they get tangled again from fluffing the mix or the bubbles.

After my first run I picked a couple of root clones up individually, there were dozens just laying there by themselves. The ones that had clumped I sorted a few out before throwing the bunch in the garbage. The clump was like a handful of earth worms, easy to separate.

"would you just cut the sprout w/ some roots and hope for the best or what?"

Most of them should separate after wards, but it's good to separate the roots before cloning.. I don't know if breaking them will kill them like a sprout or not matter like a root - we will find out.

To plant them it's just like a normal sprout except you might get some root clones 12" long - whatever the length of the roots we use.

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bongsmilie
im still not understanding the process
what are the steps
this is what i am thinking please correct
1. take roots from root ball of vegging, flowering, or harvested plant
2. place roots in a dark clean container
3. add water and soil in with roots/or add water and roots in with bubbler
4. cover so it is dark inside
5. place in a warm place
6. check once every 1-2 weeks for sprouts


for step 3 could i add a root stimulater or cloning gel or powder
 

greensister

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This is fantastic. If this works out, this could be as great as FIM of LST. Image the SOG you could do with this technique...it also makes me re think outdoor growing. I love the idea of throwing a handful of sprouting roots on the side of a highway and watching it grow as i travel back and forth to/from work.
 

Hobbes

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im still not understanding the process
what are the steps
this is what i am thinking please correct

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for step 3 could i add a root stimulater or cloning gel or powder
That's it T5. That's the beauty of this method, it's so simple. Toss some dirt in a bucket. I've read of people cloning cuttings in pro mix, no rockwool. The roots will get the same conditions as the cuttings except fluffing the Pro Mix allows for more air.

There are a few things I did first time around that I'm duplicating - separating roots before root cloning; picking the outer roots - like picking a pulpy cutting for a clone. Actually I used all kinds of root except the tap just to see what will form calydons. Use the Soilless the roots were growing in or mix new soilless and water before putting the roots in.

I've never used cloning gel, always a bubbler with cuttings. Definitely give it a try.

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bongsmilie
 

AquafinaOrbit

Well-Known Member
who knows, you maybe stranded in a forest some where with some seeds and noway to clone , you may have no root hormes or bubbler on hand

IDK - but this shit sounds cool and any and all information is allways somehow usefull -
if anything it could be a last ditch effort at cloning something that failed to reveg or a plant that you forgat to clone off of

also i think i read somewhere that cloning this way gives the plant a stronger stable genes. whereas branch clones are the same age as the mother plants makeing a plant that you have been cloneing year after year old as hell. whereas a root clone would be equal to growing from seed each time

Think on a business level selling clones. This method would completely change the industry if it worked.
 
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