Richard Wolff on Capitalism

Rob Roy

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Hey I know!!!

Let's have the same people use the same coercive system that facilitates cronyism make us all safe from cronyism!

....and then we'll all be able to smoke pot as long as we give those fuckers some money too, then we'll get permission!!

Hooray, we're free!!!
 

UncleBuck

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...his make believe fantasy world.
don't you call anthropogenic global warming a "hoax" (a la david duke), then try to use the washington post as the standard bearer of truth, and then turn around and ignore everything they have to say about the reality of anthropogenic global warming?

you are twisted in so many lies that you are basically an immobile word salad vomit machine at this point.

dumbass.
 

Padawanbater2

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Hey I know!!!

Let's have the same people use the same coercive system that facilitates cronyism make us all safe from cronyism!

....and then we'll all be able to smoke pot as long as we give those fuckers some money too, then we'll get permission!!

Hooray, we're free!!!
Hey, I know!!

Let's abolish government and just start farming and provide for ourselves and see how well that works out for all 330 million of us!

Your fairy tale fails to answer fundamental questions about how to run a society and when pressed about this issue, all you ever seem to do is point out how bad our current society is, which doesn't answer the original question.

-how would something like NASA be funded?
-police/fire fighters?
-public education/libraries/healthcare?
-how would you deal with homelessness and poverty?
-national defense?
-international diplomacy?

Wolff is a socialist.
Socialism has failed every single time it has been attempted.
Of course he hates the relative success of capitalism, because it is demonstrably superior to his make believe fantasy world.
Socialism has failed? Better inform the military, a 100% socialistic organization. Better tell northern Europe and their thriving societies..

The crony capitalism we have is clearly so much better!
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Hey, I know!!

Let's abolish government and just start farming and provide for ourselves and see how well that works out for all 330 million of us!

Your fairy tale fails to answer fundamental questions about how to run a society and when pressed about this issue, all you ever seem to do is point out how bad our current society is, which doesn't answer the original question.

-how would something like NASA be funded?
-police/fire fighters?
-public education/libraries/healthcare?
-how would you deal with homelessness and poverty?
-national defense?
-international diplomacy?


Socialism has failed? Better inform the military, a 100% socialistic organization. Better tell northern Europe and their thriving societies..

The crony capitalism we have is clearly so much better!

I'm not favoring cronyism, never did. My point was you are seeking solutions from the same entity that causes most of the problems.
Einstein is grinning and shaking his head in amusement.

Anything worthwhile should be funded by people that value that particular service and not by people that don't value it. Forcing payment from people that don't value or use a given service and have no desire for it...what would you call that if you or I did it to others? Hint...extortion.

Why do you think forcing people to buy something they don't want is a good thing? I'd really like to hear your answer on this one.

Socialism is great if all the people involved in a given arrangement agree to it. What would you call any organization if you as an individual cannot escape it and don't want to be involved in it? Is it safe to say those unwilling participants are in some way "captive" ?


Homelessness is often caused by government regulations. If you'd like to argue that, bring it on.
 

UncleBuck

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Anything worthwhile should be funded by people that value that particular service
since you went to public school and chose to send your kids to public school, that means that you should stop crying "RAPE!!!!!" every time your property tax bill comes due.

we just rolled ours into our mortgage payment, makes things easy.

Forcing payment from people that don't value or use a given service and have no desire for it...what would you call that if you or I did it to others? Hint...extortion.
except you agreed to property taxes absent duress and then used the service.

dumbass.

Why do you think forcing people to buy something they don't want is a good thing?
if you didn't want it, then why did you choose to send your kids to public school?
 

Rob Roy

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since you went to public school and chose to send your kids to public school, that means that you should stop crying "RAPE!!!!!" every time your property tax bill comes due.

we just rolled ours into our mortgage payment, makes things easy.



except you agreed to property taxes absent duress and then used the service.

dumbass.



if you didn't want it, then why did you choose to send your kids to public school?

Which elements must be present for a valid agreement to have taken place Mr. Ted Bundy?
 

UncleBuck

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Which elements must be present for a valid agreement to have taken place Mr. Ted Bundy?
you already stated that you knew what the property taxes would be when arranging to buy your shanty backwoods shack, you agreed to them absent duress by your own admission, and you used the accompanying services provided by those property taxes.

now go describe paying kids for sex as a consensual voluntary agreement.
 

Rob Roy

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you already stated that you knew what the property taxes would be when arranging to buy your shanty backwoods shack, you agreed to them absent duress by your own admission, and you used the accompanying services provided by those property taxes.

now go describe paying kids for sex as a consensual voluntary agreement.

Can you describe which elements must be present for something to be considered voluntary and which must be present to be considered involuntary?



Can you also take a pass in the bathroom with the mop too please, it smells a little funny in there. Thanks.
 

UncleBuck

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Can you describe which elements must be present for something to be considered voluntary and which must be present to be considered involuntary?
when you were arranging the purchase of that backwoods child rape shack of yours, you knew what the property taxes would be, and you agreed to them absent duress.

that is voluntary.

you voluntarily enslaved yourself. slave.
 

see4

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Little Robby, you are terrible at debate. You are literally incapable of directly answering a direct question or accusation.

You do realize that by not answering, you essentially admit to the outside observer than you have lost the argument and are now just acting silly to make yourself feel relevant.
 

Rob Roy

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when you were arranging the purchase of that backwoods child rape shack of yours, you knew what the property taxes would be, and you agreed to them absent duress.

that is voluntary.

you voluntarily enslaved yourself. slave.

Not really shit fer brains.

Simply because the badman gave you a choice of a red or green lollipop didn't mean anything. If you had the voluntary option of not engaging with him at all, you would have been closer to a no duress situation.

Duress was created when an oxymoronic "property tax" was imposed in the first place on an involuntary participant.

Now go suck on the badman's lollipop slave.
 

UncleBuck

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Not really shit fer brains.

Simply because the badman gave you a choice of a red or green lollipop didn't mean anything. If you had the voluntary option of not engaging with him at all, you would have been closer to a no duress situation.

Duress was created when an oxymoronic "property tax" was imposed in the first place on an involuntary participant.

Now go suck on the badman's lollipop slave.
i have you on record stating that you purchased your child rape shack in the woods absent duress though.

lying is not really the best debate tactic, spaMBLA.
 

UncleBuck

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...involuntary conditions placed on it by a coercive third party were involuntary...
you told me you were aware of those conditions, and absent duress, agreed to them anyway.

you enslaved yourself, sorry.

inb4 you start describing pedophilia as a voluntary agreement (again).
 
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