Reserva Privada Tangie and Rare Dankness 501st OG

Hello all, I have been coming to rollitup off and on for years whenever I needed information so I thought I would actually post a grow journal for once and try to give some information back. I have been growing cannabis for almost 20 years and I love how I invariably learn something new with every crop. I just got some new seeds so let's pop a couple packs and see if we can find some gold. I am going to try to keep up on this journal and keep it as detailed as possible and post as many pictures as I can as much for my reference as for yours. Feel free to comment or ask questions.

First up is Reserva Privada Tangie and Rare Dankness 501st OG. I bought the seeds online from Attitude. Ever since I moved to Colorado back in 2009 people have told me that their favorite thing that they used to grow back in the day was a cut called the Tangie. I have never grown it or even smoked it but I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. It seems like the DNA/Crockett/Reserva Tangie is based on this cut so I decided to start there since I have not really seen anybody offering the original clone.

The Rare Dankness 501st OG is a Skywalker OG cross. I have been wanting to try some of the Rare Dankness stuff for a while. I have seen and smoked a bit of the Ghost Train Haze and Scott's OG around and it seems like they know what they are doing. I have the original Skywalker OG cutting and it is a great plant that crosses well with just about anything. Most recently I crossed it with a God Bud from BCBudDepot and it came out really nice. Big, fat, dense, crystally Skywalker-style nugs with a more pineapple/pina colada/fruit punch taste and smell as opposed to the lemony Skywalker taste. I was calling it Tropical Skywalker.

I used the standard damp paper towel in a ziplock bag method to germinate the seeds and after 36hours most all of them have cracked open. I had the ziplocks wrapped in a kitchen towel and sitting on top of the refrigerator but it is a little cold in my house right now so I put them in a grow tent that is about 80 degrees for 8 more hours to make sure they are all popping.

I have 13 Tangie and 12 501st OG


All the Tangie germinated

2 of the 501st OG had not cracked open yet but hopefully they are just slow and I am going to plant them anyway.


I planted them about 1/4" deep in pre-watered solo cups with a couple of holes in the bottoms for drainage using Happy Frog soil straight from the bag. I put them in this busted old tub.


And put a busted old lid on it and put it under a T5 in a tent that is about 83 degrees

After 3 days the seeds have sprouted. All of the Tangie sprouted but on one of them, the cotyledons got stuck together and were squishing the first true leaves, somewhat stunting the growth. I pried them apart and I think the plant might live but it might be a little deformed or stunted at first.

The 501st OG sprouted except for the two seeds that did not germinate and for some reason one of the germinated seeds did not sprout either. I suspect some sort of mold or fungal infection. On the two seeds that did not germinate there was a slight brownish/rust coloring on the paper towel around them. On one of the nine seedlings that did sprout a cotyledon was damaged and I don't think the seedling will live.
This is kind of disappionting. When I am paying $100 for a pack of seeds I expect to grow every one of them. Shit happenes I guess. I know the paper towels were not too wet and the Tangies had no problem and I did them all exactly the same so I'm going to say it is Rare Dankness's fault. So hopefully out of the 8 plants they'll all be so good that they will make up for it.

I am going to follow you close, I'm about to start germination with rare dankness moonshine ghost train Haze. I also look forward to seeing what kind of setup you will be using since I'll be using a tent with LEDs. I will allow be using Fox Farms ocean forest and nectar of the Gods nutrients. All feedings will be Ph and temperature accurate using distilled H2O also.

Dr Dankness said:

I am going to follow you close, I'm about to start germination with rare dankness moonshine ghost train Haze. I also look forward to seeing what kind of setup you will be using since I'll be using a tent with LEDs. I will allow be using Fox Farms ocean forest and nectar of the Gods nutrients. All feedings will be Ph and temperature accurate using distilled H2O also.

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I have lots of gear so I tend to use lots of different stuff especially with a relatively small seed run like this. I needed the space in that tent for some clones so currently I am using a big LED that is in my flower room for veg when the lights are on and then I move the tub up to my spare bedroom where I have a 1000w HPS that is dimmed to 750w for another six hours per day. I like to light small seedlings like this with the LED as much as possible because It keeps the plant short and fat. I always only give seeds an 18/6 light cycle for this same reason. When you have small seedlings under 24 hours of light they tend to stretch a lot in the first few days and it sucks to have to try and stake up a tiny seedling with a toothpick. I have not decided if I will be flowering them under 1000w HPS or my big 1500w LED (It really only pulls 750w but they like to claim it is equal to 1500w of HID light). I will probably be just putting them wherever I have some extra room. They will be in #3 smartpots with some kind of soil and some kind of nutrients.
I was looking at those moonshine ghost train haze seeds too so I would love to hear how they turn out. I almost bought them but opted for the skywalker cross because I wanted to see what that Rare Dankness #1 male did with something that I already grew. They started by crossing that same male with every elite clone they could get their hands on. I wish they would disclose the genetics of it.

RMNPurps said:

I have lots of gear so I tend to use lots of different stuff especially with a relatively small seed run like this. I needed the space in that tent for some clones so currently I am using a big LED that is in my flower room for veg when the lights are on and then I move the tub up to my spare bedroom where I have a 1000w HPS that is dimmed to 750w for another six hours per day. I like to light small seedlings like this with the LED as much as possible because It keeps the plant short and fat. I always only give seeds an 18/6 light cycle for this same reason. When you have small seedlings under 24 hours of light they tend to stretch a lot in the first few days and it sucks to have to try and stake up a tiny seedling with a toothpick. I have not decided if I will be flowering them under 1000w HPS or my big 1500w LED (It really only pulls 750w but they like to claim it is equal to 1500w of HID light). I will probably be just putting them wherever I have some extra room. They will be in #3 smartpots with some kind of soil and some kind of nutrients.
I was looking at those moonshine ghost train haze seeds too so I would love to hear how they turn out. I almost bought them but opted for the skywalker cross because I wanted to see what that Rare Dankness #1 male did with something that I already grew. They started by crossing that same male with every elite clone they could get their hands on. I wish they would disclose the genetics of it.
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I will keep you updated I germinating my first seed and the Taproot just got planted into the Fox Farms and now we wait...

After a few more days, the seedlings are coming along. The Tangie that was slightly stunted is not very far behind the others and the 501st OG that I did not think would live is actually starting to grow and seems like it is going to make it but it will be a good week or so behind the others. This leaves me with 13 Tangie and 9 501st OG.

Day 6 since I planted my germinated seeds. I currently have 1 Ladybug chilling too!

Today I transplanted the seedlings from the solo cups into 1gal plastic pots. The soil was a 50/50 mixture of Happy Frog and some promix that was recycled from some male plants that were culled from the previous seed run. The pro mix had only been watered once with liquid cal-mag and once with liquid kelp so it was still tailored for vegetative growth. I put about 1/2tsp of mykos in the planting holes and I watered them with a mixture of 1/2oz fish, 1/2oz kelp, 1/2oz cal-mag, 1/4oz humic acid and 2ml orca per gallon of water. The solution was 850ppm and 6.0ph. They are back in the tent under the T5 and will now be getting a full 24 hours of light per day.

After another 10 days the plants are growing rapidly. I watered them once in the interim with clean water ph balanced to 6.2.

3 of the Tangies are quite stunted and growing slowly. I am not sure what could have caused this aside from general transplant shock. They are almost acting like they were overwatered but it is peculiar that this would happen since they are not in saucers with standing water at the bottom but rather they are on a regular 4x4ft hydro table with channels. I pulled them aside along with the runt 501st OG to show what they look like.

Here are some close ups of the 3 troublemakers.

The lower growth and the tops are rebounding and I am pretty sure all 3 will live but they will need some TLC and they will be lagging behind the other plants like the runt 501st OG. The only thing I can figure is that they were shocked during the transplant and the fairly high dose of nutrients I gave them somewhat damaged the root systems. All of the other plants are loving it but these three are hurting. I will keep an eye on them and make sure to only give them plain water and not too much of it. Here they are moved to the front of the tent for comparison.There were a couple that looked oddly shaped even when they were small and I am not sure if these were the ones or not. On a side note a friend of mine is currently growing a bunch of freebies that he got with his last seed order and 2 of the seeds are also the Reserva Privada Tangie. He started them about a week or so after I started this batch and he says the two Tangies are the weakest and scrawniest plants of the bunch.

Today I transplanted the plants into #3 smartpots. I used a local soil that my hydro store carries from Miller Soils. The link to their website is www.millersoilsllc.com. After looking at their website, I see that they have a few different products. The soil comes in an unmarked bag so I am not positive which one it is but the smart money is on the Red's Premium Biochar Blend which seems to be their flagship product. It is not cheap, coming in at $18.50 for a bag that is a little smaller than a bag of Foxfarm Ocean Forest, but it seems very nice and supposedly it is tailored for cannabis. It is a coco-based soil and there is definitely a lot of coco in it so it seems like it will have very high porosity. I did not transplant the three little Tangies that were messed up because they are still hating life. I also transplanted the small 501st OG into a #2 smartpot that I had lying around. The 501st OG looks plenty healthy and by planting it in a smaller pot I figure it will hit optimal flowering size at the same time as the other larger plants.
I had these three Tangies sitting on my counter and my friend who is also growing the two Tangie freebies came by. He said that his two did the exact same thing. He planted them in fresh from the bag soil and they crapped out just like these did and he noted that all the other seeds that he planted at the same time are doing just fine. His grow is a couple weeks ahead of mine and he also said that he did not even take clones of the Tangies because they were so weak. So perhaps there is just an anemic phenotype in the Tangies that just can't hang with everything else.

All 10 of the other Tangies were planted into #3 smartpots. 6 of the 501st OG were planted into #3 smartpots as well but then I ran out so I planted the two largest ones into a 3 gallon plastic pot and a 3 gallon bucket that I just drilled a few holes into the bottom of. As I mentioned before, the runt went in the #2 smartpot. I meant to put a teaspoon of Mykos in the planting holes but spaced it until I was about halfway done so I just decided not to use it at all for the sake of consistency. Any soil worth it's mettle ought to have plenty of microbes in it already so I think this will be a good test of the Miller Soil. I did not give them any nutrients. I am fortunate enough to live in a place with pretty good water so I don't use a reverse osmosis but rather a dechlorinator called a GardnGro. It is basically a carbon filter that goes on your hose that removes chlorine and chloramine but it doesn't really purify the water, it just makes it safe for your beneficial microbes.I really like this thing because my water is only about 30-60ppm out of the tap and I find reverse osmosis to be really wasteful. Even the best RO units can't really seem to do any better than a 1:1 waste ratio and there is no reason to just pour all that water down the drain. I ph adjusted the water to 6.0 and watered the plants with about 3/4 gallon each.

The Tangies are very bushy with lots of side branching.
Here is a closer picture of one of the larger Tangies.

The 501st OG are pretty typical kush-style plants that start by growing straight up. They will probably branch out into a candelabra shape when they get bigger.

This is a picture of the largest 501st OG which is in the white 3 gallon bucket. It has more side branching than the rest.
This is a picture of a mutant 501st OG. Its stalk started growing in a funky way and looks almost like a piece of celery. It almost looks like it has been pinched or damaged but that is not the case. It is just growing this way naturally.

The plants are now in a 5'x5' tent that is in my garage that I use as an auxillary veg tent or for breeding with male plants. This tent has two 4' 8 lamp T5s and a 400W HPS in it. I have the 400W HPS in a 6" Cool Tube with a 6" carbon filter and 6" inline fan hooked to a thermostat that is set to 72 degrees. I mailnly have the 400W HPS turned on because it is pretty cold in my garage so it will add some heat and hopefully it will help rejuvinate the three messed up Tangies and make the runty 501st OG grow a bit faster so it will catch up to the rest.

In for this one. The Rare Dankness gear look tempting. Wonder if the difference between 501st and Starkiller is big. Both made of Skywalker genetics but crossed with RD#1 and RD#2

I had my friend send me a couple of pictures of his two Tangies for comparison. He said that he thinks that they are just very sensitive to nutrients and are light feeders. He said he has just been giving them plain water and they are doing a lot better.

This makes me a little nervous because the Miller Soil that I just planted everything in seems very hot. The plants are already showing a little bit of leaf curl and some slight nutrient burn. I was looking on the Miller Soil website and in the fine print at the bottom of the Red's Premium Biochar Blend page there is a disclaimer about how you should not use this soil to germinate seedlings in. "This mix NOT intended for seed-germination. We recommend our COMMERCIAL DRIP MEDIA!" The Tangies are being affected by this soil more than the 501st OGs.
These are the Tangies

These are the 501st OGs.

These Two Tangies are showing some definite curl and burn.

This Tangie is looking like it wants to take a dive like the little stunted ones.

This 501st OG seems to be the most affected.

I guess now I know. The Red's Premium Biochar Blend is really nutrient rich. I wish I had put some Mykos in the planting holes because some extra microbes would be eating up the nutrients faster. All I can really do is just give everything plain water so that is the plan. Hopefully they will get used to the hot soil and be looking really healthy in a couple weeks when it is time to flower.

Today I watered them all with about 1/2 gallon of clean water ph 6.1 with a pretty hefty dose of Orca. Hopefully the extra microbes will help the roots bite into the nutrients more. The tops are looking like they are going to start growing normally so I think they are starting to get used to the soil. I also turned the thermostat up to about 78 degrees so that they will be taking up water a little faster, the roots will be growing faster and the nutrients will be breaking down faster.