Research Chemical Availability (Chart)

mdbizzle

Active Member
Excellent post ShepJ, i love how you are always giving to this community. only a couple were missing that I know of so this is a pretty complete list from what i've gathered as well. great job.
 

mdbizzle

Active Member
Missing?

Can you please fill us in where shepj came short of mentioning ;)
well i wasn't really tryin to point them out specifically just lettin ppl know other stuff is out there. but since you asked i know AMT, BDF, and DOC are currently available as well. DiPt is coming very soon as well.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
AMT is too much of a monster, DOC while the long duration is not well stood for in many psychonaut opinions, and BDF HMM i"m clueless about that one!
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Excellent post ShepJ, i love how you are always giving to this community. only a couple were missing that I know of so this is a pretty complete list from what i've gathered as well. great job.
If they are missing I intentionally left them out.

such as:

5-MeO-TMT
aMT

well i wasn't really tryin to point them out specifically just lettin ppl know other stuff is out there. but since you asked i know AMT, BDF, and DOC are currently available as well. DiPt is coming very soon as well.
Bromo-Dragonfly is on the chart, so is DOC, and DiPT.

the only one mentioned I did not add was aMT (most places that stocked it, no longer do. The one that everyone knows of does not ship to the US. So I only know of one vendor who has it in stock and ships to the US and I doubt people would find it, so I left it out -did not want to inspire false hope lol).

AMT is too much of a monster, DOC while the long duration is not well stood for in many psychonaut opinions, and BDF HMM i"m clueless about that one!
aMT is indeed available though.

BDF = BromoDragonFLY

EDIT:

My account is fucked up.. I can not get to My Rollitup, hence I can not see my PM's.. everytime I try I get an error.. seems like they are banning me.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Bromodragonfly yes!

That chemical is a tragic mishap just waiting to happen... vendors should be smarter and only stock user friendly chemicals and not does that carry a strident margin of error!
 
What a whirlwind romance between Shepj & Ndanger!! ;-)



The thing with being banned in the state that I am is if what I say doesn't go thru then there's no consequences for the words written, and if it does, the thread is to far along in the mean time for anyone to notice! Win win really... :-D
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
You might have to or yes you must update that chart of your's shepj. Yet, another vendor has added DPT to their catalog list ;)

What's your experience like with DPT? Would you consider it better than DMT?
 

CreepyStevie69

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son of a bitch. nope....

i guess it doesnt help you and danger are the only ones i really talk to on this site. haha seriously. nice job though.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
Ah well fuck me sideways!

Product availability for one vendor is being sniped down by the FDA! Move fast before these products become eerily DORMANT!
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
Yes, but I saw another vendor speak of it... wouldn't this lessen the quantity or make it harder to come by... any prospects of these getting scheduled soon?
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Yes, but I saw another vendor speak of it... wouldn't this lessen the quantity or make it harder to come by... any prospects of these getting scheduled soon?
China is not the only country that synthesizes research chemicals. Maybe a small handful of vendors will be affected.

I don' think so. Even this specified vendor is probably sitting on so much that they could continue to sell it at the regular price until the issue is resolved and still make bank.. they are raising the price to get extra cash. There are vendors who want 1/2 to 1/3 some of their prices.

I doubt it, but at the same time it would not surprize me. Eventually things like Mephedrone will get scheduled, but I do not see this recent seizure being any influence on that timeline.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
It fascinates me how some chemicals become scheduled due to their popularity but never become mainstream... one of them being the most obvious: 2c-b!
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
It fascinates me how some chemicals become scheduled due to their popularity but never become mainstream... one of them being the most obvious: 2c-b!
Awkward enough.. I do not know why 2c-b was scheduled. I do not believe there were any reported deaths from its use (I still don't know if there are)

I mean shit:

While the lethal dosage is unknown, it is worth noting that 100mg (oral) and up to 120mg (insufflated) of 2C-B have been taken safely.
I think making things illegal, most of the time, makes them more popular.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
I did not know the dosages were so high up there.... but maybe the whole legal ecstasy replacement... made it become rampart in the ears of the DEA!
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I did not know the dosages were so high up there.... but maybe the whole legal ecstasy replacement... made it become rampart in the ears of the DEA!
I think you may be right. Funny enough, you take a substance and sell it as an illegal and you get charged with some bullshit about intent to distribute a controlled substance.. you sell it as what it really is and it's semi-legal.

I guess it doesn't pay to be stupid nor to be a con-artist.
 
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