Republicans fight Cuba

Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Yesterday, the US (supposedly) and Cuba began to start a process to normalize relations with that last bastion of Communism in the Western Hemisphere. This would allow easier transfer of funds, allowing American credit cards to be used, starting to allow commercial trade ( have you ever smoked a Cuban, me either, I heard they were bony), and limited tourism. BUT, you know what? The Republicans don't want it because it would help to support a Communist regime. Only a lying, fucking idiotic Republican party could have the balls to say that, after normalizing and encouraging trade with the ONLY Communist country in the world, besides Viet Nam ( which we created by the way). China, bordering on slave labor, imprisoning dissidents, when they actually don't just put a bullet into the back of their heads is ok, but a Caribbean nation with one of the best educational and health care systems in the world (blows the shit in the US away) is a problem. You know what is a problem, fucking Republicans are a problem, because all they seem to do (or try to) is to bring the rest of the world down to their level, which is what? Absolute shit, and you know why the world thinks we are fucking nuts? Because half of the political system in this country is run by the likes of McConnell, Cruz, Boehner, McCain, Bush and Palin. Now we can expect starting in 2015 a Congress dominated by retards for the next 2 years. Fuck this shit, Havana, here I come on the 1st boat in. Bring some seeds, find a nice place in the hills, grow some serious serious, live to an old age with native girls doing the trimming, and never hear or see a Republican for the rest of my fucking life. That is what I am going to do.
 
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schuylaar

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rightie sucks lemons.

basically, what happened was ending of a "war" with the typical exchange of prisoners and reestablishing relationship for the future.

62% of 18-29, agree with normalizing relations again with cuba.

they are our future, not the old fuckers!
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Funny that you didnt notice a lot of prominent Democrats coming out against it as well...

BUT THEY DID!!!
 
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schuylaar

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Jimdamick said:
Yesterday, the US (supposedly) and Cuba began to start a process to normalize relations with that last bastion of Communism in the Western Hemisphere. This would allow easier transfer of funds, allowing American credit cards to be used, starting to allow commercial trade ( have you ever smoked a Cuban, me either, I heard they were bony), and limited tourism. BUT, you know what? The Republicans don't want it because it would help to support a Communist regime. Only a lying, fucking idiotic Republican party could have the balls to say that, after normalizing and encouraging trade with the ONLY Communist country in the world, besides Viet Nam ( which we created by the way). China, bordering on slave labor, imprisoning dissidents, when they actually don't just put a bullet into the back of their heads is ok, but a Caribbean nation with one of the best educational and health care systems in the world (blows the shit in the US away) is a problem. You know what is a problem, fucking Republicans are a problem, because all they seem to do (or try to) is to bring the rest of the world down to their level, which is what? Absolute shit, and you know why the world thinks we are fucking nuts? Because half of the political system in this country is run by the likes of McConnell, Cruz, Boehner, McCain, Bush and Palin. Now we can expect starting in 2015 a Congress dominated by retards for the next 2 years. Fuck this shit, Havana, here I come on the 1st boat in. Bring some seeds, find a nice place in the hills, grow some serious serious, live to an old age with native girls doing the trimming, and never hear or see a Republican for the rest of my fucking life. That is what I am going to do.
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the right? humanitarians they are not..unless there is a c-note attached.

godspeed!:hug:

i'm only 90 miles away from havana..puddle jumpers and the US dollar, doesn't get much better than this:wink:

+rep

standing o

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schuylaar

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ChesusRice said:
I like the look of Marco Rubio all pissed off. He is such a dick
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his first reaction after the president because we get to hear the little shithead comments first.

it was quite hillarious..went from pre-apoplectic fit to misty, near tears mean ole obama took his reason for living away.

no water bottles were harmed during.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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schuylaar said:
sometimes you just have to go with what the people want.

righties: americans like when a president does this.
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So, regardless that it is the legislature that put the embargo against cuba and the fact that it is unconstitutional for the president to unilaterally remove the ban, you have decided that sometimes you just have to go with what the people want.

Unless of course it is gay marriage, obamacare and any number of other programs that you support.

What you are too dim to understand is that once you open the door all presidents will be given this power, even the ones you dont like.

Obama is not a king, he does not get to rule by decree.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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ChesusRice said:
I like the look of Marco Rubio all pissed off. He is such a dick
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Look at him, and tell me he hasn't the smug face of evil incarnate. That dude is fucking scary, figures he is on the top rung of the Republican party. How fucked up is that? Oh, to head all you Republicans off saying he doesn't represent the majority of the Republican party,. Bull shit, he is an "everyman" and you are stuck with it.
 
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schuylaar

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NLXSK1 said:
So, regardless that it is the legislature that put the embargo against cuba and the fact that it is unconstitutional for the president to unilaterally remove the ban, you have decided that sometimes you just have to go with what the people want.

Unless of course it is gay marriage, obamacare and any number of other programs that you support.

What you are too dim to understand is that once you open the door all presidents will be given this power, even the ones you dont like.

Obama is not a king, he does not get to rule by decree.
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how does this affect you? it doesn't.

EO is just and deserving of the man it serves, approved by "the framers" aka founding fathers..they WANTED it this way.

the only people who give a shit are playing dominoes, drinking their daily shots of cuban coffee at 3PM waiting for death.

were you even alive?

i don't think many of us were.

you argue, to argue.
 
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schuylaar

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Jimdamick said:
Look at him, and tell me he hasn't the smug face of evil incarnate. That dude is fucking scary, figures he is on the top rung of the Republican party. How fucked up is that? Oh, to head all you Republicans off saying he doesn't represent the majority of the Republican party,. Bull shit, he is an "everyman" and you are stuck with it.
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and you know what..fiscally responsible he's not.

has many financial issues..used the bankruptcy law.

he has a lot of skeletons, too.

this little "darling" needs to come back in 20 years when he's grown and can handle himself in the public better.
 
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ChesusRice

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1) He is not the son of Cuban exiles. He thinks. Maybe? Up until last year, Marco Rubio described his parents as exiles from Fidel Castro's communist regime in Cuba: "In 1971, Marco was born in Miami to Cuban-born parents who came to America following Fidel Castro's takeover," his Senate biography stated. But it turns out his parents actually arrived in the US in 1956, before the revolution, and even made multiple trips back to the communist island. Rubio insisted he hadn't known his family's actual history, but polls showed most of his constituents thought he'd "embellished" his account.
Things get even messier: According to a Rubio biography due out in June by Washington Post reporter Manuel Roig-Franzia, Rubio's grandfather Pedro Victor Garcia was an illegal immigrant to the United States. Disillusioned by his financial prospects, Garcia reportedly left the United States for Cuba two weeks after Fidel Castro took power in 1959. He flew back to the States two years later without a visa...and was booked by a US immigration official, who stated: "[Y]ou do not appear to me to be clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to enter the United States." Garcia was ordered deported, but instead he hung out illegally in Miami, resurfacing in 1967 to petition for permanent residency. Even though Garcia had been in the US since 1962, "The form he filled out then states that he had been a Cuban refugee since February 1965," according to Roig-Franzia
 
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NoDrama

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NLXSK1 said:
So, regardless that it is the legislature that put the embargo against cuba and the fact that it is unconstitutional for the president to unilaterally remove the ban, you have decided that sometimes you just have to go with what the people want.

Unless of course it is gay marriage, obamacare and any number of other programs that you support.

What you are too dim to understand is that once you open the door all presidents will be given this power, even the ones you dont like.

Obama is not a king, he does not get to rule by decree.
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The actual laws concerning trade embargo with Cuba were penned in 1917 trading with the enemy act. That is the body of legislation that the President uses to direct the Dept of the Treasury to implement economic sanctions and trade sanctions. Obama isn't undoing Congressional legislation, he is well within his constitutional powers to nullify another presidents management decisions.
From Wiki:
The Cuban Assets Control Regulations, 31 C.F.R. 515, are regulations of the United States Department of the Treasury on July 8, 1963, under the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, that general regulate relations between Cuba and the U.S. and are the main mechanism of domestic enforcement of the United States embargo against Cuba.

It was recently modified by the Office of Foreign Assets Control.[1]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Assets_Control_Regulations

Relevent Executive orders are:

Nixon went to China, Reagan went to the USSR, its not a big deal. This is what presidents are actually supposed to do, not congress.

The most relevant question in my mind is will Cuba retain it's heritage after she is under the economic power of wall street and the TBTF banks. Will she be stripped of resources and hung out to dry?
 
Thecouchlock

Thecouchlock

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Every single thread is a back and forth of "your racist" , " no your blind" "your information is bullshit" "the way you think is stupid"

Read my fucking signature the lot of you.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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ChesusRice said:
1) He is not the son of Cuban exiles. He thinks. Maybe? Up until last year, Marco Rubio described his parents as exiles from Fidel Castro's communist regime in Cuba: "In 1971, Marco was born in Miami to Cuban-born parents who came to America following Fidel Castro's takeover," his Senate biography stated. But it turns out his parents actually arrived in the US in 1956, before the revolution, and even made multiple trips back to the communist island. Rubio insisted he hadn't known his family's actual history, but polls showed most of his constituents thought he'd "embellished" his account.
Things get even messier: According to a Rubio biography due out in June by Washington Post reporter Manuel Roig-Franzia, Rubio's grandfather Pedro Victor Garcia was an illegal immigrant to the United States. Disillusioned by his financial prospects, Garcia reportedly left the United States for Cuba two weeks after Fidel Castro took power in 1959. He flew back to the States two years later without a visa...and was booked by a US immigration official, who stated: "[Y]ou do not appear to me to be clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to enter the United States." Garcia was ordered deported, but instead he hung out illegally in Miami, resurfacing in 1967 to petition for permanent residency. Even though Garcia had been in the US since 1962, "The form he filled out then states that he had been a Cuban refugee since February 1965," according to Roig-Franzia
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I think he was born in Kenya and grew up with he and his older brother, Barack, sacrificing Christian babies to Allah. They probably did a threesome with their Muslim gay lover.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
Unless of course it is gay marriage, obamacare and any number of other programs that you support.
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59% of americans want to keep obamacare, dummy.

and marriage equality is also favored by a clear majority now.



bigots like you are losing, because you are losers.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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desert dude said:
I think he was born in Kenya and grew up with he and his older brother, Barack, sacrificing Christian babies to Allah. They probably did a threesome with their Muslim gay lover.
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do you add anything to this forum beyond racism and pawl spam?

your stormfront recruiting mission has been a massive failure. you are a fucking pariah on this forum.

at least ginwilly gets a kick out of your blatant racism though.
 
TubePot

TubePot

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schuylaar said:
sometimes you just have to go with what the people want.

righties: americans like when a president does this.
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What People? The people in Cuba? LOL
Why wasn't the the racist pig JoAnne Chesimard part of this deal? Chesimard, a cop killer who has been hiding in Cuba for years? I agree with Marco Rubio, Obama is the worst negotiator since Jimmy Carter.
The USA doesn't do ANYTHING that doesn't benefit them. The US will rape Cuba and it's people. The devil is in the details.

Funny how the US media in Cuba show the folks saying they welcome the news, say something against the Cuban government in plubic and see what happens to you. LOL
 
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schuylaar

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TubePot said:
What People? The people in Cuba? LOL
Why wasn't the the racist pig JoAnne Chesimard part of this deal? Chesimard, a cop killer who has been hiding in Cuba for years? I agree with Marco Rubio, Obama is the worst negotiator since Jimmy Carter.
The USA doesn't do ANYTHING that doesn't benefit them. The US will rape Cuba and it's people. The devil is in the details.

Funny how the US media in Cuba show the folks saying they welcome the news, say something against the Cuban government in plubic and see what happens to you. LOL
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how is this different from any other president?

and how do you know what will happen there?

tell me, how many times have you been?

are you cuban or even latino at all?

were you even born before the bay of pigs?
 
TubePot

TubePot

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I am CUBAN, I still have family there and I have been there 2 times. Starting around 1980 my Mother has been back 3 times, her sisters my Aunts have been back 7 times between the both of them. My uncle came and stayed with us for 2 months last year. I have a idea of what's going on in Cuba.

The embargo will stay in effect for a while(years,imo) the "people" will still go without..... Only when true democracy is restored NOTHING will change for the "people". Corporations and big wigs are already lining up to cash in... Hey, what better way to cash in some greed, than on the backs of people whom have no choice. And once again, O drops the ball.
 
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