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Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Discussion in 'Organics' started by headtreep, Mar 21, 2013.

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    Fastslappy

    Fastslappy Well-Known Member

    Your a braver man than me , some ferments it's instant vomiting, I gotta 5 gallon with comfrey, labs gonna reup with more fresh comfrey here soon that's a smell to gag a maggot
     
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    bizfactory

    bizfactory Well-Known Member

    Hahahaha, amazing description. I have extra organic cane sugar so I'll probably use that this round but the molasses is def cheaper for me too.

    It's funny...I started with Gil, moved to Cho's KNF and now I'm circling back around to Gil / Jadam.
     
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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member

    I went the same route. Gil/ jadam / kyeusi recipes are more cost effective. Knf was originally created for poor farmers so they could use whats around them since most of those farmers went into debt from buying fertz. Maybe the crude sugar was super cheap back then.

    To make 2 gallons of knf ffj costs over $50. Organic sugar costs twice as much as c&h sugar. I don't have a source for crude sugar either. Only trader joes and a local organic market which is $2 per lb.

    Chris Trump and Dr.Cho say to only use fruits and plants you can pick. Most of us don't live on a ranch in Hawaii or South America or Jamaica and don't have the space or the climate to grow some of those fruits and plants. Smh....
     
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    MrKnotty

    MrKnotty Active Member

    I have three FPE'S of nettle going, and I swear my wife almost puked today when I opened them. Outside only now haha. At least now she stopped paying attention to the fungal flats I have going. The Nettle FPE'S Smell Way worse
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear hyroot,
    Thank you for this post. I will Keep it in my favorites!.
    Fermentingly yours,
    M
     
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    Mohican

    Mohican Well-Known Member

    I watched a video about African Malawi growers who use nothing but urine and ash as fertilizer. They have nothing else. I started burning all of my trim trash and adding the ashes to the compost and soil.

    It's great to have you back @hyroot !
     
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    hillbill

    hillbill Well-Known Member

    I have about 12 gal of oK ash from a tree base that smoldered for days. Mixed in is some sand shoveled up when collecting ash and quite a few pea sized chunks of bio char. Been using this almost a year. Tea made from leafmold seems welcomed by all the plants I've met.
     
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    Fastslappy

    Fastslappy Well-Known Member

    Pee on yer compost pile lol
     
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    Fastslappy

    Fastslappy Well-Known Member

    Be careful too much ash will lock up a plant
    Happened to me
     
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    hillbill

    hillbill Well-Known Member

    I am very conservative on amendments especially reusing for 6 or 7 years.
     
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    Devildenis69

    Devildenis69 Active Member

    Hey guys !

    First I would like to thanks everyone for their participation to this crazy mass of information, that is this thread :D

    Just wanted to report my use of FFE, I let ferment some pear skin in 2L of tap water for a week or so, the smell was slightly alcoolic, so I decided to use it only on half of pots and see what happens ...

    Few days later the soil went crazy, I saw some pieces of coco moving at the surface, after digging a little I discovered a shit load of tiny white worms (trichrome size), nematodes right ? :eyesmoke:
    Are they all good guys, whatever brewed in aerated or fermented conditions ?
     
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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member


    Those are pot worms. They show up in low ph environments. They're not harmful. They're a sign of low ph.

    If you're fermenting fruit in water you need to add either labs / em1 or leaf mold. Those will produce bacteria that will break down the fruit.
     
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    Devildenis69

    Devildenis69 Active Member

    Thank you for the info, 'll have to look up more closely into FFE realisation
     
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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member

    I posted a lacto recipe for making labs and ffe / fpe 1 page back.
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member

    I didn't make that recipe. That's Gil's recipe. A guy by the name of Roberto put together what I had posted.

    btw were you ever called fathead or rubber nipples by your friends. just curious based on your name and your sarcastic or facetious comments. I know someone who has the same name with those nick names. He stopped talking to me awhile ago because I didn't vote for Hillary.
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear hyroot,
    Do trust me when I state that I was being neither "sarcastic" nor " facetious". truly truly mesmerized by post #8228 to the point that I am envisioning tattooing it. Well no! Not Really... now I am being" facetious" Please do forgive my wicked behavior.
    I might sound a tad bit "different" (btw I really dislike the "quote on quote" thing) but blame asperger for it.
    I am but a noob trying to do good by my lungs, brains, friends, ideal and plants.
    You people of the leaf inspire me and help me achieve my goals. And Please do believe me when I say I am thankful for the knowledge you spread.

    humbly yours,
    M

    PS: I did not vote for Hillary neither but please do switch martinez to trump in the following song:
     
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    Chronikool

    Chronikool Well-Known Member

    Day 35 - Ninja Fruit #2 (1 of 1).jpg
    Ninja Fruit - Day 35
     
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    bizfactory

    bizfactory Well-Known Member

    Obiwan OG @ 54 days

    ObiwanOGKush.jpg
     
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    Robert "Bob" Dobbs

    Robert "Bob" Dobbs New Member

    100% organic baby! IMG_20171122_192927.jpg
     
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