Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Joe Blows Trees

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Are the mite larvae possibly in the soil and hatch when the soil livens up? Just curious since I have them as well and their population is booming in my wormbin. Also, I think I need to add some diameaticous earth to my bin. Ants got in there some how. They're the little black ones.
 

Dr.4:20

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Hey guys, built a soil a few months ago and It's time to reamend a set. Can't help but feel like I went heavy initially so I'm having a hard time reading and figuring out what to reamend with.
Total base mix about 16 cu ft.
Fish meal, alfalfa meal, neem seed meal crab meal all at 4 cups each

Powdered azomite, granular azomite, garden lime, basalt mix, gypsum, greensand, oystershell flour All at 4.5 cups each
DE at 4 cups

2 cups happy frog jump start i had left over, 2 cups roots uprising foundation mix, 2 cups coast Of maine mix.
.5 cup azos
.25 cup ful-humix
2lbs mykos
1cup Epsom salt.

I guess I was going for diversity! Hoping someone could chime in on reamend quantities and what to change if I make another batch. Thanks!
 

bizfactory

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I've got a batch of standard AACT with compost/ewc and molasses brewing and it will be read tomorrow morning...

So my question is, can I add coconut water and aloe to the AACT once it's finished? Any harm in that just a few minutes before soil drenching? Waste of coco water and aloe? How much coconut water per gallon usually? I've got 1/8 to 1/4 of a cup per gallon stuck in my head for some reason....accurate?

Thanks y'all and happy friday!
 

testiclees

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Are the mite larvae possibly in the soil and hatch when the soil livens up? Just curious since I have them as well and their population is booming in my wormbin. Also, I think I need to add some diameaticous earth to my bin. Ants got in there some how. They're the little black ones.
Bro Ive used the borax ant bait in my bin with no problem. I placed the bait, a couple drops, on the paths the worms use. I noticed zero effect except for worms gone. Also believe that the minute boron dosage could be useful for MJ nutrition.

Adding any sweet stuff to the bin calls those lil fucks in like a dinner bell.
 
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DonBrennon

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I've got a batch of standard AACT with compost/ewc and molasses brewing and it will be read tomorrow morning...

So my question is, can I add coconut water and aloe to the AACT once it's finished? Any harm in that just a few minutes before soil drenching? Waste of coco water and aloe? How much coconut water per gallon usually? I've got 1/8 to 1/4 of a cup per gallon stuck in my head for some reason....accurate?

Thanks y'all and happy friday!
I'm no expert, but this guy 'Tim Wilson' is, it doesn't take too long to read.http://www.microbeorganics.com/

This is the specific part, but the rest is well worth a read

"Adding Ingredients to a Finished Brew;

As I’ve mentioned we used to make 1200 gallon batches of ACT which we applied on our farm garden beds through an irrigation system. We used the same tank if we wanted to apply some other diluted soil amendment or fertilizer, like fish hydrolysate, molasses (occasionally) or humic acid.

I had read that many growers and landscapers were adding some of these amendments into their ACT just before applying and I believe this process was endorsed by SFI. Anyway we decided to try saving some time and money and dumped 5 gallons of fish hydrolysate into a 1200 gallon batch to pump out. I had, as usual examined the finished brew microscopically and out of curiosity took another sample after mixing in the fish hydrolysate. To my astonishment and dismay I had wiped out or put to sleep almost half of the microorganisms. This was the last time we did this.

We always apply amendments separately from ACT and this is what I recommend unless using the most minuscule amounts. I surmise that adding anything to a finished brew can have similar negative results. The amount of FH we used was 0.4%. If you have a microscope, go ahead and experiment."

So, Don't add anything to your finished aact
 
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bizfactory

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Thanks fellas, just watered with the plain AACT. Next watering I'll add the LAB I just finished with the aloe/coconut.

My plants are looking rough so hopefully between these two they'll turn around. The soil should still have PLENTY of nutrition as long as the microlife is good. I lightly top dressed with kelp, alfalfa, neem/karaja, gypsum, and oyster shell flour at the beginning of veg and this is only my 2nd grow in this soil (first official no-till round).

They are a bit lime green and sorta droopy. Definitely not praying :( I recently started hand watering because I suspected the blumats were causing the soil to be too damp but after 2 weeks of hand watering, still the same signs. This has really got me stumped. Temps are in the high 70s and rH is in the 30-50% range most of the time. The first round was SOO EASY, having a hell of a time on the second.

Here's a screen cap of my webcam:
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DonBrennon

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Thanks fellas, just watered with the plain AACT. Next watering I'll add the LAB I just finished with the aloe/coconut.

My plants are looking rough so hopefully between these two they'll turn around. The soil should still have PLENTY of nutrition as long as the microlife is good. I lightly top dressed with kelp, alfalfa, neem/karaja, gypsum, and oyster shell flour at the beginning of veg and this is only my 2nd grow in this soil (first official no-till round).

They are a bit lime green and sorta droopy. Definitely not praying :( I recently started hand watering because I suspected the blumats were causing the soil to be too damp but after 2 weeks of hand watering, still the same signs. This has really got me stumped. Temps are in the high 70s and rH is in the 30-50% range most of the time. The first round was SOO EASY, having a hell of a time on the second.

Here's a screen cap of my webcam:
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They don't look that bad from the photo, they do still look like they've got 'The Claw' though and I'd guess it's the saturation that's causing the 'Def's', rather than a lack of nutrients. I'd have held off to let them dry out quite a bit more before watering with the Aact, although I know it's difficult to do nothing when you really want to act to help things out. The fabric pots tend to dry out around the outsides and on top pretty quick and make you think they need watering, when the middle and bottom of the soil are still saturated. I've found that I need to mist the pot's outsides and mulch until the plants are large, well into flower and using a lot water, especially in large containers like that.
 

DonBrennon

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Cheers Don, appreciate the feedback. One plant was actually wilting a bit on the lower leaves and I could easily pick up the 15 gallon pots so I think it was dry enough. It is hard, especially knowing my worms might be drying out!!
MMmmnnn, yup if a 15 gal's easy to pick up, it needs watering.........or perhaps I'm just a pussy LOL.............Give the aact time to work, I bet they'll be looking great in the morning.
 

GreenSanta

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Thanks fellas, just watered with the plain AACT. Next watering I'll add the LAB I just finished with the aloe/coconut.

My plants are looking rough so hopefully between these two they'll turn around. The soil should still have PLENTY of nutrition as long as the microlife is good. I lightly top dressed with kelp, alfalfa, neem/karaja, gypsum, and oyster shell flour at the beginning of veg and this is only my 2nd grow in this soil (first official no-till round).

They are a bit lime green and sorta droopy. Definitely not praying :( I recently started hand watering because I suspected the blumats were causing the soil to be too damp but after 2 weeks of hand watering, still the same signs. This has really got me stumped. Temps are in the high 70s and rH is in the 30-50% range most of the time. The first round was SOO EASY, having a hell of a time on the second.

Here's a screen cap of my webcam:
View attachment 3669825
I have had better luck re-amending a wide diversity of amendments in small amounts and use a ''weaker'' soil, but more of it. Your plants look like they are either needing more calcium/magnesium or something is way off, too many roots from the previous crop still in the pot? when it happens I just ride it out, be sure to let it dry out really good before next watering and keep her under strong lights you will still get a decent yield, with a super clean smoke.
 
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