Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Vnsmkr

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I had a couple TGA strains grown from seed that tried to get PM on me in the middle of a hot summer! Sprayed them daily with some mild lemon juice/water mixture. It was gone in a week and never came back.

Got the lemon juice at Costco:



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cannakis

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@doublejj is running his veg 24/0. His look great.

I have heard that they like to have a rest and so I use 18/6 (I am also not in a hurry).
cool, tomorrow i'm pulling all of my veg room out from under the light, and spraying it all down, along with the quarantined clones i have (in another room of course). Thanks Mo. The organic community on this site is top notch. Just want to thank you all for helping me speed up the learning curve, and helping along the way. I'm thinking about starting a thread soon for my garden. be kinda cool to see the vegamatrix transition to living soil in a single thread.

who here runs a 24/0 veg cycle? i've been wondering if i should switch back to 18/6 or 20/4 cycle... maybe i need to do some research on the interwebz....
Mo is right... The plants Develop Roots in the night. So I would definitely have Some darkness... Maybe try out 21/3...!?
 

ShLUbY

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Mo is right... The plants Develop Roots in the night. So I would definitely have Some darkness... Maybe try out 21/3...!?
my plants develop plenty of roots with no darkness lol. i just wonder if giving them a rest would just be beneficial in some way because after all, they evolved with darkness at night.

speaking of darkness at night.... i find it pretty funny that people freak out over a couple pinholes in their grow at night. Is it ever really, truly 100% dark outside every night? hell no. growers claim that pinholes cause hermies in their grow... when more likely it's stress, or genetics. this is just my common sense rambling. i have no fact to back this up, but i'm calling "myth busted" on this one. what you guys think?
 

Vnsmkr

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my plants develop plenty of roots with no darkness lol. i just wonder if giving them a rest would just be beneficial in some way because after all, they evolved with darkness at night.

speaking of darkness at night.... i find it pretty funny that people freak out over a couple pinholes in their grow at night. Is it ever really, truly 100% dark outside every night? hell no. growers claim that pinholes cause hermies in their grow... when more likely it's stress, or genetics. this is just my common sense rambling. i have no fact to back this up, but i'm calling "myth busted" on this one. what you guys think?
I agree 100 percent. I have fkn streetlights on below and lights on Buddha's alter and all sorts of random lights being flipped on throughout night....NO issues
 

AllDayToker

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I agree that I think the plants just need SOME rest at least.

I haven't done any personally testing myself so I cannot prove my thoughts besides the fact that mother nature allows her plants some sleep time haha.

Also doesn't the plants system changes up, like during the day they take in co2 and release oxygen, and then at night it switches or something?
 

VTMi'kmaq

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here again my injury to my ole brainstem rers it's ugly head.....i know that there's beneficial actions going on during a dark period, i just don't quite remember what those are. Had a university of vermont botanist give me a disertation on this a few months ago lol.
 

ShLUbY

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well at night, photosynthetic processes just stop. plants will continue to grow but they use the sugars produced by photosynthesis that were stored up in leaves and in the roots. that's kinda why 24hrs works, because they don't really need the rest... but i'm sure they'd like it!
 

4ftRoots

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I recently had a magnesium deficiency that I fixed without epsom salts and I thought I would share with the masses. I can't remember where I read it but I read that brown rice flower is super high in magnesium. I went out and bought some regular indian brown rice and they are fixed with a couple days. I try to stay away from the bagged chemicals and feed my soil that same thing I would eat. It's nice to not have another bag of chemicals laying around.
 

Pattahabi

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my plants develop plenty of roots with no darkness lol. i just wonder if giving them a rest would just be beneficial in some way because after all, they evolved with darkness at night.

speaking of darkness at night.... i find it pretty funny that people freak out over a couple pinholes in their grow at night. Is it ever really, truly 100% dark outside every night? hell no. growers claim that pinholes cause hermies in their grow... when more likely it's stress, or genetics. this is just my common sense rambling. i have no fact to back this up, but i'm calling "myth busted" on this one. what you guys think?
If you are growing outdoors it is different. I've seen light leaks both delay the flowering of plants and cause hermaphrodites indoors.

well at night, photosynthetic processes just stop. plants will continue to grow but they use the sugars produced by photosynthesis that were stored up in leaves and in the roots. that's kinda why 24hrs works, because they don't really need the rest... but i'm sure they'd like it!
I could be mistaken here, but it was my understanding when plants are under 24 hours of light respiration happens during daylight hours. Not natural imo. I have also run 18/6 and 24/0 and I didn't see much if any gain from the additional light. To each their own. I prefer to save a little money and deal with a little less heat by utilizing a dark period.

My 2¢,

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ShLUbY

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I prefer to save a little money and deal with a little less heat by utilizing a dark period.

My 2¢,

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i agree, i think i'm going to switch my plants to a dark period in veg... but i'm unsure of how to go about doing that from 24 hr..... should i just go like 1hr at first for a few days to a week... then 1.5hrs for a while... and just keep gradually doing it? i'm afraid they will flower if i go right to 4 or 6 hrs dark.
 

Pattahabi

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i'm pretty sure cellular respiration happens 24/7... the only thing that stops is photosynthesis.
You are correct, respiration happens 24/7. I was thinking respiration increased in the dark cycle. So far this is all I found:

http://preuniversity.grkraj.org/html/8_RESPIRATION.htm
In plants, respiration takes place both at day time as well as at night time. But the respiration is very low at day times particularly in tissues where cells are engaged in photosynthesis. This is because photosynthesis provides all the energy that is required for the cellular metabolism.



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4ftRoots

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i agree, i think i'm going to switch my plants to a dark period in veg... but i'm unsure of how to go about doing that from 24 hr..... should i just go like 1hr at first for a few days to a week... then 1.5hrs for a while... and just keep gradually doing it? i'm afraid they will flower if i go right to 4 or 6 hrs dark.
As long as you don't give them 12 hours of darkness they can't flower. Feel free to drop it to your new schedule they will be fine.
 

ShLUbY

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As long as you don't give them 12 hours of darkness they can't flower. Feel free to drop it to your new schedule they will be fine.
not true. i've switched a plant from a 24 schedule to a dark period and it flowered on me. I'm not saying that every strain will do this, but it did happen to me. i know they reveg but i really don't wanna go through all that... i might have to i guess....
 
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