Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

hyroot

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Red just go to those glacier water vending machines. I fill up my drinking water from those. 25 cents a gallon.. 0-7 ppm's. I use same water to make ice and make hash too. Sometimes water plants if I lag on aerating water or making a tea.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Red just go to those glacier water vending machines. I fill up my drinking water from those. 25 cents a gallon.. 0-7 ppm's. I use same water to make ice and make hash too. Sometimes water plants if I lag on aerating water or making a tea.
That's what I'm doing now, and what I also use for hash. I have a fill station basically around the corner. I'd still rather save gas and time by having one at home.
 

hyroot

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That's what I'm doing now, and what I also use for hash. I have a fill station basically around the corner. I'd still rather save gas and time by having one at home.

as much water as I fill up. I spend $5.00 -$10.00 a month on it. It would take over 2 years of filling up water to equal the cost of a RO system. If I solely used it fo my garden. That would $15.00 a week. I plan on grabbing a RO system eventually. Just other shit comes first
 

RedCarpetMatches

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as much water as I fill up. I spend $5.00 -$10.00 a month on it. It would take over 2 years of filling up water to equal the cost of a RO system. If I solely used it fo my garden. That would $15.00 a week. I plan on grabbing a RO system eventually. Just other shit comes first
I go all out with everything else...don't see why I wouldn't do the same with water. All I have to do is skip one bean order lol.

Doesn't too much Ca lock out Mg and K? If my fried memory serves me right, the excess Ca also slow down P uptake?
 

hyroot

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Yes. Too much cal will lock out potassium and vice versa. Too much mag will lock out cal. I forget if too much cal locks out mag or not. I got to check on that.
 

PSUAGRO.

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I go all out with everything else...don't see why I wouldn't do the same with water. All I have to do is skip one bean order lol.

Doesn't too much Ca lock out Mg and K? If my fried memory serves me right, the excess Ca also slow down P uptake?

very hard to get a cal toxicity, and hyroot's right too much mag(easy to overdo IMO) will lock out cal............that's why dolo/horti lime is out for me in LOS

Us east coast growers have acidic soil/+ chem ferts ==== you always added lime using synthetics, with organics that high% mag will do more harm then good.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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My Ca/Mg has got to be at least 10:1

cups/cu ft:
2 gypsum
1 oyster shell
1 crab shell
1 dolo
1 calphos

crushed egg shells and dolo in EWC

HARD WATER.

I want a good soil test kit.
 

PSUAGRO.

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My Ca/Mg has got to be at least 10:1

cups/cu ft:
2 gypsum
1 oyster shell
1 crab shell
1 dolo
1 calphos

crushed egg shells and dolo in EWC

HARD WATER.

I want a good soil test kit.
Yeah your water sucks..............why add dolo/calphos, when your have gypsum/crab/ewc??? way overboard with your water, your ph is off no doubt. Not even the best los soil will self-adjust to that IMO.

your local township/university AG department can test your soil
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Yeah your water sucks..............why add dolo/calphos, when your have gypsum/crab/ewc??? way overboard with your water, your ph is off no doubt. Not even the best los soil will self-adjust to that IMO.

your local township/university AG department can test your soil
I forgot to mention calcium bentonite lol. I crush the dolo for worm bin grit and Mg. Used a lot of Ca because I went with a mostly coco mix. I'm curious to see what my current run will do with peat...no coco. Eventually, I plan on mixing the two batches and going no till.
 

hyroot

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^^^^^ that's your problem.. Redudntant regiment. Too many of the same nutes. Drop the cal po mag, gypsum, and lime and benotite.
 

Abiqua

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I think Albrecht suggested 7:1 to start, and I don't think 10:1 is out of the question at all.

I have been out catching crawdads and drying out a few I don't eat or feed to the dogs. Gonna crush all the shells up for a cal experiment, fingers crossed :peace:
 

DANKSWAG

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Sweetness, near my Organic Farm there is a cow pasture filled with THIS YE HA !
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JACK POT... Now how do I handle this again and use it?

DankSwag
 

DANKSWAG

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That my friend is a Stinging Nettle Patch, supposedly there is some type of native american ginseng plant around these part of the woods too, but it is dangerous to handle, if a barb from it gets in your skin it will eventually make its way into your blood stream and could even damage your heart and cause death. Its a power ginseng plant but one should take extreme care when handling it. If I find them I post pics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urtica_dioica

DankSwag
 

foreverflyhi

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DANKSWAG
You should see my backyard! Its full of nettles! From baby ones to very large ones.
My advise is, when they are very large aNd developed, carefully (i dont use gloves, but i rec u do) pull from bottom shaft, (no it wont sting u! I promise!) and take the whole plant out including roots! Chop roots off and let dry, i usually just throw in the whole plant as is in 5 gallons water,(sure u can blend the plant, but honestly just throwing in the whole plant works just as fine. let itferment one day, then add air stones and bubble it for two days, finish tea color will b very green tea like with resin glance floating in it. i use as it, or dillute it if you going to use in your soil. 11 is a good ratio. Great for ipm! Then ill throw the used plant either in wormbin/compost or top dress, by this time the plant will not sting u, nor the water, only when fresh and alive it will sting u.
Now as for the roots u leftout to dry, collect as much as possible, grind it up, and ferment/tea, repeat process as mention earlier! Roots have more benefical properties especially for fungicide and insectice properties. Btw, i have left tea out in room tempature over a week and still worked well, also left in fridge over a month and still worked well, has long life shelf
Love my nettle!
 
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foreverflyhi

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Couple side notes i forgot to mention about nettle,
If this is your only batch, then dont pull the whole plant, only pull if you are sure u have baby nettles to replace those. Also i cant seem to find article, but i read nettle has beneficial properties for people, natives used it for many reasons, i believe some even drink it in low quantities, will look for article when i can
 
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