Rare Dankness: 501st OG HERMIES!!!

What's up guys. Wanted to find out who is growing these so far, and who else has solid hermies?

I REALLY looked forward to these seeds. Skywalker is a favorite of mine. VERY disappointed to find solid herms in VEG!!!
Here's the lowdown...
-45 days old from seed
-pure coco coir medium
-Botanicare nutes
-1 gallon pots
-24 hr. light schedule

They are about 18in. or so tall and have had white pistols since I force sexed them. I put them in my flowering room for 3 days to see what the m/f ratio was and pull the dudes. ONLY had white hairs on what I kept. No balls were present. Last night during general feeding regime, i found male pre flowers up and down the stem and on new growth on side branches. STRAIGHT UP FULL BLOWN HERMAPHRODITE!!!

Other than cut them down, what should I do? Do you feel these seeds were tested? I think Skywalker must be prone to herming. GDP tried releasing our own Skywalker Og seeds but upon testing I found the same situation as I did w/ these 501's... A company should NOT have released an untested strain... Whats the deal RD???

Just so you ALL know, I love RD, I'm running Scott's OG, and the Venom and I do not see this problem with them. I have followed Moonshine man since overgerow.com, I love his work, not here to knock anyone or them at all in the slightest!!! Keep up the "other" good work though

I'm sorry to hear this. This is the first I have heard of any true hermies in any line. The 501st OG were tested last year. Of course that doesn't ensure 100% stability of seeds sent out to the market. I wouldn't trust anyone selling something that must be grown, that guarantees anything from it. Seeds are unknown specimens. All we know are what the parents were like and what the siblings of the seeds expressed upon testing. I have multiple friend's in my area that I have given 501st beans to. I'm not sure if they are as far along as you, but so far no one has reported anything unusual to me about them.

Was this the case with every 501st plant? Did you pop all 10? I will make mrs. RD aware of this thread so they can decide how to handle this. Will you please post some pictures of these hermies? I'm sure we'd all like to see them. Personally I've only found 1 true hermie in my 8 years of growing.

No problem at all!!!
Yes, I popped a FULL 10 pack i purchased personally during the LA medi cup this last year (2011). I bought them straight from Eric.
So far, all 3 that I checked, bare with me, there's more than yours to inspect, are a full blown herm. I have seen this before in the skywalker seeds Ken Estes and the rest of the GDP team sent me to try. Those did not get released. Like I said, you didn't ruin my garden, I'm not sore, just wanted to put this out there... Hope It's the proper way. I almost feel like I'm putting you guys on blast.

I'll snap pics and post them tomorrow, with my other RD gear. Thanks for the fast response.

ALSO, seeing how I work for another seed company it might seem as though I'm attacking my "competition" BUT, I consider RD one of the elite seed breeders. They were around before I ever dreamed of working with GDP. So pleasee don't take this as a way of putting your seeds down!!! I love the gear you are putting out, and I AM A HUGE KUSH HEAD!!! I love me some GDP, but RD is killin' it w/ the OG crosses and wild sativa blends!!!

a gentlemen and a scholar . .. . way to go GDP . .cant wait till my girls GDP pure and GDP x sour D is done

Hey RD team, heres some pics for reference. My camera isn't the greatest. Had a hell of a time trying to focus in enough to see the male sacks...

...for a gardener, my nails are PRETTY damn clean!!!

After uploading, and trying to see the males, it's hard, but you can tell something other than a calyx is there.

It's no surprise really given all of the pollen chucking...

Wow. Thank you for posting those. That's pretty crazy looking. It's obvious that those are not new growth tips or anything normal that should grow out of that node.

I have alerted mrs. RD. Hopefully she'll check here soon and they can decide how to handle the issue. It is mothers day though, so be patient.

yeah thats for sure a hermi. Ive never seen a hermi express male parts during veg, but on the other hand i usually only veg for 3-4 weeks depending on strain. I had 1 kings kush, 1 dinafem og, and world of seeds madness hermi on me. The dinafem and world of seeds each only popped maybe 2 nanners each and it was managable, but the kings kush was pretty much a full blown hermaphrodite just like this. I was lucky enough to notice around the 2nd week of flowering so damage was minimal.

Rare D MI said:

Wow. Thank you for posting those. That's pretty crazy looking. It's obvious that those are not new growth tips or anything normal that should grow out of that node.

I have alerted mrs. RD. Hopefully she'll check here soon and they can decide how to handle the issue. It is mothers day though, so be patient.

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no problem!!

cdub5 said:

yeah thats for sure a hermi. Ive never seen a hermi express male parts during veg, but on the other hand i usually only veg for 3-4 weeks depending on strain. I had 1 kings kush, 1 dinafem og, and world of seeds madness hermi on me. The dinafem and world of seeds each only popped maybe 2 nanners each and it was managable, but the kings kush was pretty much a full blown hermaphrodite just like this. I was lucky enough to notice around the 2nd week of flowering so damage was minimal.

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ya that sucks... at least i got em in veg...

Yea pre flowers and herms for the 501st ? And mine are babies I hope this doesn't happen to me. I hope the facewrecks and GTH#2 are okay.Mine appear to be fine no problems so far.

Could be the 24 hours of light that caused the problem, fem's are very sensative to photoperiod stress, too much light no dark period, light leaks.... not to mention heat stress and nutes ect. ect..... IMO there's just whay to many factors that can cause fem's to herm to really nail down the problem.

I think that's just the risk you have be prepared to take if you chose to run with fem's.

Tuco420 said:

Could be the 24 hours of light that caused the problem, fem's are very sensative to photoperiod stress, too much light no dark period, light leaks.... not to mention heat stress and nutes ect. ect..... IMO there's just whay to many factors that can cause fem's to herm to really nail down the problem.

I think that's just the risk you have be prepared to take if you chose to run with fem's.

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RD does not sell feminized seeds. These are regular 501st OG seeds. (skywalker x rare dankness #1)

Oh, and just to correct a small error from the original post. Moonshine man is the breeder for RD, not medicine man. Medicine man is out of Vancouver, BC. Moonshine is out of Colorado.

Tuco420 said:

Could be the 24 hours of light that caused the problem, fem's are very sensative to photoperiod stress, too much light no dark period, light leaks.... not to mention heat stress and nutes ect. ect..... IMO there's just whay to many factors that can cause fem's to herm to really nail down the problem.

I think that's just the risk you have be prepared to take if you chose to run with fem's.

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Ya, I have fem. cali connection tahoe og and it is autoflowering under 24 hrs... well 2 phenos are. But like RD Mi said, these are non-fem

Rare D MI said:

Oh, and just to correct a small error from the original post. Moonshine man is the breeder for RD, not medicine man. Medicine man is out of Vancouver, BC. Moonshine is out of Colorado.

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Dude, my bad, ya, real educated i sounded... MOONSHINE MAN... NOT MEDICINE MAN... found the error and corrected it. Gotta give credit where credit is due for sure... it aint the "medicine haze" haha

Rare D MI said:

RD does not sell feminized seeds. These are regular 501st OG seeds. (skywalker x rare dankness #1)

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Oops nevermind then, i must of had a brain fart he was talking about Ken having a go at fem's...

Damn this thread has made me worried! I have popped 3 10 packs plus 2 RD seeds, all 100% germination but now I'm afraid of hermies! One of them is Karma Bitch (Skywalker X Nevill's Haze) :0

i hope the best for you guys, i too have some packs of rd and would hate to see these kind of problems exist in these hyped up genetics.

hopefully its handled professionally!

Well after talking to mrs. RD, she confirmed that there were at least 30 test grows of 501st in CO over the last year. No one reported any hermies. She even called a few people today to make sure that they didnt forget to tell them about problems. My 3 friends have not had any problems with 501st, or any other RD gear popped so far. This is most likely an isolated incident. As more grow reports roll in, I'm sure we won't see many more of these problems, if any.

I think she said she was going to contact you about the issue.