Rabbit Manure Teas?

Discussion in 'Organics' started by MetalHead75, Dec 24, 2013.

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    MetalHead75

    MetalHead75 Member

    Anybody got a recipe for using rabbit poop in a tea? I'm looking to start primarily fertilizing with teas and I know that rabbit poop is a pretty good fertilizer for vegging, which thanks to my kid's rabbits I have a large supply of. I also have worm castings, kelp meal, and bone & blood meal to work with as well.
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    JohnDee

    JohnDee Well-Known Member

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    NorthofEngland

    NorthofEngland Well-Known Member

    I'd never put the kettle on at your house!
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    Banana444

    Banana444 Member

    As children, we had rabbits, and part of our choirs were to clean the rabbit trays, in the winter was especially fun, using a hatchet to break the frozen urine and manure out of the trays and replace the hay. During those years we had 6+ ft tomatoe plants. You might be onto something.
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    Jack Harer

    Jack Harer Well-Known Member

    Dude, you have everything you need to grow!!! As for teas, just stuff about 4 or 5 cups of bunny pellets into a nylon stocking and put it in a 5 gal bucket full of water, add an aquarium pump and airstone and bubble it for about 24 hrs. You can use the remnants as an amendment or top dressing. Feel free to add any of the other amendments you have, kelp, EWC, etc. They are all good.
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    MetalHead75

    MetalHead75 Member


    Thanks for the advice, that's the exact setup that I have I just wasn't sure how strong I could make it. I'm still fairly new to growing and am still learning about organic methods. Currently I amend all that other stuff into my soil along with some Mexican bat guano when potting my clones but I wanted to figure a way to start using the bunny pellets in place of the guano and have gotten mixed reviews when it comes to whether I need to compost the pellets or not before using. I've always thought you didn't need to but I don't want to risk burning my plants up to find out for sure so I figured a tea would be the best way to go.
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    Jack Harer

    Jack Harer Well-Known Member

    No man, you can use bunny poo a whole lot of ways. I dry mine and sorta roughly grind it up (out of the "pelletized" form) and mix it in when I mix my soil. Along with kelp, EWC and a Wee bit of bone meal. It can also be top dressed in like that. Of course take the pellets and make teas, but the soaked pellets are still good to mix into your next batch of soil. The kelp is frigging gold as well. You have everything you need, exactly what I use. PM me if you have any questions I can help with.
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    SpicySativa

    SpicySativa Well-Known Member

    Nothin wrong with making a tea of of that rabbit manure, but if I had it, I would probably just scratch some into the top of each pot and cover it with a layer of compost or worm castings. Both methods will work.
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    SpicySativa

    SpicySativa Well-Known Member

    You should not need to compost the pellets first; they are pretty mild. BUT, if you have a worm bin, they will make some excellent castings.
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    Jack Harer

    Jack Harer Well-Known Member

    Spicy, when you make a tea from the pellets, the dross isn't depleted. It makes a great top dressing or soil amendment. Check yer in box. I'm sending you a link to my cloud vault. let me know if you already have this book.

    Sorry about the brief hijack.....
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    brimck325

    brimck325 Well-Known Member

    would rabbit manure be better used in flower? high p isn't it?
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    MetalHead75

    MetalHead75 Member

    This here is what I was reading when I first started looking into using this stuff:

    Rabbit Manure (2.4-1.4-0.6) - is the hottest of the animal manures. It may even be higher in nitrogen than some poultry manures. As an added bonus it also contains fairly high percentages of phosphates. Because of it's high nitrogen content, rabbit crap is best used in small quantities (as a light top dressing or lightly mixed into soil) or composted before use. An excellent fertilizer by itself, some folks combine rabbit hutches with worm farms to create what is a potentially very rich source of nutritious worm castings. As with other animal manures, healthier animals fed a nutritious diet will produce a superior manure fertilizer.



    That was taken from the Guano Guide by 3LB that was posted here on the organic forum
    http://www.rollitup.org/organics/48967-guano-guide-3lb.html

    So you are right, also high numbers of P but with those numbers I figured that it would best to use it for veg and then taper off into early flower.
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    Jack Harer

    Jack Harer Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I been thru this one before. I'd have thought for sure that the 3lb crew would have known better than that. Rabbit poo is not hot at all, and can be used straight out of the rabbit. The NPK of it is great for both phases, P being much more available with bunny poo than many other sources. You will never burn a plant with bunny poo.

    Metalhead, you really ought to get more than one reference before you take anything off the internet as gospel. I believe that you will find that the 3lb reference to it being HOT will be the only reference to that effect you'll find anywhere. Totally not true.
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    MetalHead75

    MetalHead75 Member

    And when did I say I only used one reference as gospel? In fact, that's pretty much why I was making this post before I even used this stuff, to get some other input. I also even said:

    In other words, that guide is the very first thing I read about bunny poop before I went and started researching it and how to best amend it or if it should be composted. But settle down, you're speaking from experience so I definitely believe you lol. I was posting that bit from the guide to show the nute ratios, not try to disprove your advice about composting. Although you are wrong, there are plenty of places that recommend composting rabbit poop before using in soil, including the link that somebody already posted here in this thread.
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    Jack Harer

    Jack Harer Well-Known Member

    My bad, sorry. That was an assumption on my part. And I have been wrong before. (lemme see...was that back in '87 or '88?) LOL.
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    st0wandgrow

    st0wandgrow Well-Known Member

    Just my 2 cents here, but I would run that bunny poop through a compost pile first before using. I agree that it likely won't burn your plants if used directly on/in your soil, but it could contain pathogens which thermophilic microbes will take care of when composted. Bunny poop is great, but I won't use any manures directly in my soil.
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    Jack Harer

    Jack Harer Well-Known Member

    Good point Stow. I have never worried about that (to be quite honest, I never thought about that :shock:), and I've never had issues, but you are 100% right. Pathogens are a real possibility if you don't know the source of the manures.
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    Alexander Supertramp

    Alexander Supertramp Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you should start composting...
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    Jack Harer

    Jack Harer Well-Known Member

    I do compost some of it, and add some straight poo to the soil as well. But I've been using straight poop (bunny) for a good while without probs, and I know the health of the source rabbits and the cleanliness of their living conditions. Would I discourage anyone from composting it? NOPE!!! I just don't see the need for it in my application.
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    st0wandgrow

    st0wandgrow Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I could be a little over-cautious with this, but I figure better safe than sorry. Bunny poop is probably the safest manure to work with

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