Quebec stands firm on plan to ban all homegrown pot

VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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Farmer.J said:
Revenue Alberta (Saskatchewan, Manitoba and yes BC too) earn from shipping cannadian oil to China, will be dispersed to all of the provinces. Alberta pays equalization payments to the federal government and that money gets dispersed to all kinds of funding in other provinces. If the people in charge of the ports in BC run them responsibly they won't destroy the coast.
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Nice theory, but that revenue does nothing for BC. We, too pay equalization payments, so we gain nothing from the oil. I don't care if Alberta gives more to have not provinces so long as they don't create another one in the process. I live on a small but beautiful island who relies heavily on tourism to support local business. When one of these oil tankers goes down and our beaches and wildlife are covered in oil, the tourists might just go somewhere else. Thousands of BC'ers would be left unemployed while Alberta carried on pumping oil.
Then you seem to put the potential blame on BC port operators in the event of an accident rather than blaming the greed of the oil companies and the governments they pay off. I'm all for shipping oil if and when it can be done safely, what pisses me off is the attitude that the wants of British Columbian's are secondary to those of Alberta. Why do we not have the right to determine the risks we are willing to take as a province? There would be no way they would force Quebec to do anything 'for the country' and they have never contributed a dime to transfer payments. If my elected provincial representative is unable to make decisions to protect the province and it's citizens, why do they exist?
It won't matter anyway. After all is said and done, the FN will stop the pipeline from crossing their lands. I doubt it will be built in my lifetime.
 
Farmer.J

Farmer.J

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VIANARCHRIS said:
Nice theory, but that revenue does nothing for BC. We, too pay equalization payments, so we gain nothing from the oil. I don't care if Alberta gives more to have not provinces so long as they don't create another one in the process. I live on a small but beautiful island who relies heavily on tourism to support local business. When one of these oil tankers goes down and our beaches and wildlife are covered in oil, the tourists might just go somewhere else. Thousands of BC'ers would be left unemployed while Alberta carried on pumping oil.
Then you seem to put the potential blame on BC port operators in the event of an accident rather than blaming the greed of the oil companies and the governments they pay off. I'm all for shipping oil if and when it can be done safely, what pisses me off is the attitude that the wants of British Columbian's are secondary to those of Alberta. Why do we not have the right to determine the risks we are willing to take as a province? There would be no way they would force Quebec to do anything 'for the country' and they have never contributed a dime to transfer payments. If my elected provincial representative is unable to make decisions to protect the province and it's citizens, why do they exist?
It won't matter anyway. After all is said and done, the FN will stop the pipeline from crossing their lands. I doubt it will be built in my lifetime.
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I don't disagree with anything above except for the first sentence. BC also has oilfields in the north east corner. That oil brings revenue to BC. Oil produced there gets shipped. As well as oil from Saskatchewan and Manitoba. At least half of the workers in any oilfield are from a different province. Some of those guys bring the money they earn home. Oilfield workers are a lot of those tourists coming to your home, paying for goods and services. Indirectly or directly, this already brings revenue to your province. Adding a port will too.
 
VIANARCHRIS

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Farmer.J said:
Oilfield workers are a lot of those tourists coming to your home, paying for goods and services.
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This isn't the proper forum for politics, so I apologize,
The vast majority of them are not, but I get what you're saying. I have nothing against oilfield workers - my son works there. Like I said, my biggest issue is Ottawa not giving me a choice and the arrogance of Alberta in telling me I don't deserve a say. It could have been handled better on both sides, but this is the result of voting NDP into power. Notley is an idiot and Horgan is her dumber cousin and both are fighting to keep their jobs.
BC demanded and was promised "world class" oil spill response when this was first planned. Things might have gone differently if Ottawa had ran an information campaign explaining what that would look like. All I've heard is they have pledged money for new ships which does nothing to alleviate fears. It's easy to minimize it when your home is in Calgary or Toronto, but my whole world is about 30 nautical miles from the Port of Vancouver and is surrounded by water. One little fuckup could ruin my way of life.
End of rant....sorry? :bigjoint:
 
VIANARCHRIS

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One more thing... "In Alberta it is unlawful for anyone, except research institutions with the appropriate permits, to import, possess or transport live rats, even white laboratory rats."....Seems Albertan's get to protect their province, they just don't think BC should have the same rights.
Boycott Alberta ANYTHING.
 
zoic

zoic

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Sadly fossil fuels are still being produced and used. I think it is only a matter of time before someone with enough money can work with cannabis to create a biomass production. Clean affordable renewable energy. IMHO this is inevitable.
 
ANC

ANC

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The very fertilizers most on here use is a byproduct of fossil fuels. The problem with an extractive cycle where the unused plant matter does not get returned to the soil forces you to use more petrochemical fertilizers in a vicious cycle.

I even recycle my used coco coir. (It gets better every time around), roots get used as mulch for my outdoor plants.
 
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Farmer.J

Farmer.J

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VIANARCHRIS said:
One more thing... "In Alberta it is unlawful for anyone, except research institutions with the appropriate permits, to import, possess or transport live rats, even white laboratory rats."....Seems Albertan's get to protect their province, they just don't think BC should have the same rights.
Boycott Alberta ANYTHING.
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Well that's enough of the internet for me today.
 
GreenHighlander

GreenHighlander

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I worked on a drilling rig for 7 years.Only time in y life I didnt grow for living.
Last lived and worked in Dawson Creek BC. (it is natural gas not oil that drives NE BC)
My high paying job 10+grand a month take home, left me fighting for me life after filling the toilet with blood at work.
All that glitters aint short term gold
Cheers :)
 
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