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st0wandgrow

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Does it matter to the beheaded woman if it was an organized plan, or an single 'copycat' event?

For years, the traditional means of exacting workplace revenge has been to return with a gun or 4 and blow away a few folks until you're stopped.

Today, a beheading, and working on a 2nd when he was stopped.



Just a coincidence what 'faith' the beheaders always are, right?




They have given unto themselves justification over life and death.

Let that sink in. No moral compass. Every act versus women, bound men, and children allowed, encouraged, and celebrated.

Have to agree with you Amos. Islam is not a religion of peace. They perpetuate the very worst in humans
 

torontoke

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I did originally say giant beach remember...
However killing anyone is extreme some why because extremists to get rid of extremists?
Do u see the problem?

Personally i think the us made a huge mistake ever goin over there.
The money they spent on war could have converted every engine in north america to electric or natural gas and the muslims would simply starve off from no oil sales.
But whoops forgot the us has a horse in that race too
 

st0wandgrow

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Personally i think the us made a huge mistake ever goin over there.
The money they spent on war could have converted every engine in north america to electric or natural gas and the muslims would simply starve off from no oil sales.
But whoops forgot the us has a horse in that race too
Spot on. Corporate America calls the shots, and corporate America will attempt to suck every drop of oil from the planet before we move on to other sources of energy. It's sickening
 

natro.hydro

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Ok but you saying it was in the name of islam is unfounded. Any witness reports of him yelling Allahu Akbar? becuase until then it is just a workplace killing that involved someone who was islam.... You know that people have cut each others head off for a long time, just because it is grisly and unconventional doesn't give it ties to IS.
Like tor said most muslims do not support their actions so why even make this comment
Just a coincidence what 'faith' the beheaders always are, right?
You keep posting new stories of beheadings, to inspire outrage or just general disbelief idk, but what are you hoping to accomplish by posting these stories? because to me it feels a lot like fear mongering and chest beating so we can have a new war to wage. It almost seems any response you illicit short of "fuck em all" is not to your standard of outrage... you seem like a cool dude but you seem pretty worked up about something that ultimately short of writing your congressman is out of your hands.
 

natro.hydro

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Have to agree with you Amos. Islam is not a religion of peace. They perpetuate the very worst in humans
so some Catholic preists are pedos so they are all right? That is a broad and dangerous statement you are making stow. Most of the worlds population is muslim so you are saying that all those people gave evil breeding in them...
 

st0wandgrow

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Ok but you saying it was in the name of islam is unfounded. Any witness reports of him yelling Allahu Akbar? becuase until then it is just a workplace killing that involved someone who was islam.... You know that people have cut each others head off for a long time, just because it is grisly and unconventional doesn't give it ties to IS.
Like tor said most muslims do not support their actions so why even make this comment

You keep posting new stories of beheadings, to inspire outrage or just general disbelief idk, but what are you hoping to accomplish by posting these stories? because to me it feels a lot like fear mongering and chest beating so we can have a new war to wage. It almost seems any response you illicit short of "fuck em all" is not to your standard of outrage... you seem like a cool dude but you seem pretty worked up about something that ultimately short of writing your congressman is out of your hands.

I don't think that all Muslims are crazy radicals that go around cutting peoples heads off ...... but they condone certain things that I feel have no place in the 21'st century. Just look at the way they view women. They are treated like animals. Posessions.

Just as the conservative crowd likes to exagertae things and blow it out of proportion, I feel that liberals make excuses for Muslims. There is nothing wrong for calling this religion what it is. It's an intolerant, repressive brain washing
 

st0wandgrow

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so some Catholic preists are pedos so they are all right? That is a broad and dangerous statement you are making stow. Most of the worlds population is muslim so you are saying that all those people gave evil breeding in them...

Catholicism doesnt teach that. Those are twisted individuals that are finally being called out.

Islam teaches that women are possesions. Non believers should be killed. I think it's disingenuous to try and draw a straight line between the two.
 

natro.hydro

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Most religokns treat women like shit at their roots. The problem comes from people who cant think for themselves and follow a religiin to the letter. I knkw your stance being a atheist but you could have this argument for juat abkut any religion.

For example Hinduism as it was originally practiced is fucked but the religion evolved along with society and now they dont burn the wives when the husbands die...
 

natro.hydro

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Catholicism doesnt teach that. Those are twisted individuals that are finally being called out.

Islam teaches that women are possesions. Non believers should be killed. I think it's disingenuous to try and draw a straight line between the two.
Fair enough I have not read thr quran in entirety to refute that but the bible may not explicitly say pedophilia is wrong it was accepted among priests, the supposed interpreters of "his" word... point being while islam is not perfect there are far more flawed religions that are practiced in this world today
 

natro.hydro

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The quran doesnt say non believers should be killed btw... thats is one of the many mistranslations that happens with it. I cant dispute the mistreatment of women, there is no place for that in civilized society, but the extermists clearly prefer chaos to civility... that you will nit hear me dispute.
 

st0wandgrow

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Look at Saudi Arabia. Women aren't allowed to drive a car or vote. Women are publicly beheaded if they are caught cheating on their husband. They often times are not allowed to choose who they marry, they are instead told who they will marry.

I'm sorry, but I will not make excuses for that kind of fucked up thinking.
 

Amos Otis

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Ok but you saying it was in the name of islam is unfounded. Any witness reports of him yelling Allahu Akbar?
As a matter of fact, the local TV outlet is reporting just that.

You keep posting new stories of beheadings, to inspire outrage or just general disbelief idk, but what are you hoping to accomplish by posting these stories? because to me it feels a lot like fear mongering and chest beating so we can have a new war to wage. It almost seems any response you illicit short of "fuck em all" is not to your standard of outrage... you seem like a cool dude but you seem pretty worked up about something that ultimately short of writing your congressman is out of your hands.
Much to respond to, here, but 'what I hope to accomplish' is a conversation. Look at the events that have occurred, and been documented, in this thread. And today, it reached the UNited States, didn't it?

I'm not 'chest thumping'. As to 'fear mongering', the easy extrapolation of that term related to news events posted here, is evident of things that aware people should, in fact, be fearful of, imo.

As to 'seem like a cool dude', I'd say you are spot on, amigo. :eyesmoke:
 

Amos Otis

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you seem like a cool dude but you seem pretty worked up about something that ultimately short of writing your congressman is out of your hands.
That is doubly spot on. Writing a congress person doesn't inspire a lot of hope in reversing the momentum of world chaos, does it?

While most people who are even paying attention occupy their time by blaming BushObamaCorporateAmericaRacistsImperialists et freekin' cetera.........the enemy makes daily advances.

At some point - which was long ago - those conversations mean nothing. When Colleen was looking into the eyes of her beheader, I'd bet she never considered there was anyone to blame - except her beheader.

How does it feel to you, that it is, as you say, 'out of your hands' ?
 

Amos Otis

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Just as the conservative crowd likes to exagertae things and blow it out of proportion, I feel that liberals make excuses for Muslims. There is nothing wrong for calling this religion what it is.
Except to those very liberals you reference.

I often think that it's a defense mechanism. They'll do anything rather than accept that evil is rampant, and gaining ground every day. To do that, would be to destroy their false sense of security.
 

natro.hydro

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I will admit I am afraid of them. But I prioritize that fear, it just seems to consume a lot of your thoughts is all my point was really.
I smoke weed so that I do not dwell on things, otherwise I have a tendency to overthink things and become irrational. So this like many other things in my life that I am afraid of I think about it, but is not at the front of my thoughts everyday.
I know this may seem like pulling the woll over my eyes but as you stated we as individuals are in no position to stop them. the measures they are taking now are the right ones, I think. Did I like the sluggish pace they came to this conclusion that they have to be dealt with? of course not but with congress's approval ratings at all time lows all I can do is sit and wait to do my civic duty of making those old dicks give up their seats when their term is up, as you pointed out we are not in a position of power as the average american citizen...
 

Amos Otis

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point being while islam is not perfect there are far more flawed religions that are practiced in this world today
Scape-goating organized religion in it's entirety does nothing to diminish the fact that there's only one religion that is actively involved in mass murder on your television screen every night....nearly filling the entire news broadcasts.

But, for sake of the debate - why do you care if these people are Muslim? Would it make any difference in the threat it it were radical Methodists? Or radical accountants?

People are missing the big picture.....:shock:
 

Amos Otis

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I will admit I am afraid of them. But I prioritize that fear, it just seems to consume a lot of your thoughts is all my point was really.
You're correct there.

I know this may seem like pulling the woll over my eyes but as you stated we as individuals are in no position to stop them........[snip]....................as you pointed out we are not in a position of power as the average american citizen...
Exactly. :clap:

Some want to have 'blame' conversations.....others refuse to think about it at all, and will continue doing so until they're in a position like Colleen was today. Others hope our government will get it together in time, and for some, that's waiting 2 years to another election. Really????

Again, look at what's happened just since this thread has been ongoing. What do you think things will look like in 2 years?
 

natro.hydro

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But, for sake of the debate - why do you care if these people are Muslim? Would it make any difference in the threat it it were radical Methodists? Or radical accountants?

People are missing the big picture.....:shock:
I do not care that they are muslim, just like I wouldn't care if they are methodist, they just use that label to suit their own fucked up agenda as I said most religions have done at one time or another. What I care about is that you and most other americans write seemingly all muslims off as being incapable of living among us. Not all muslims treat their women like dog shit or expect to be waited on hand and foot by them, have meet plenty of strong muslim women. So no I am not ready to disparage what amounts to a large portion of the world because a small sect of them think they own it and they are the kid with the magnifying glass and we are their ant hill. I generally do not support violence, but in the case of IS I look at it like this, if you wanna hurt me for seeming no reason other than differing ideology I am gonna hurt you first and bad... I do not hate black people but I HATE black people who hate white people because we are white and someone white does not like them.
If they are so poorly treated it begs the question why would women convert to islam willingly? I see no knife to the throat of american women converting to islam but you would think there would have to be with the way they treat them no?


There are a couple well armed, militarized christian compounds throughout america. yet you do not seem to fear that they are gonna kick off armageddon, why is that? Shit some would argue they are just exercising their second amendment right and they have every right to their AR-15s.....
 

natro.hydro

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Again, look at what's happened just since this thread has been ongoing. What do you think things will look like in 2 years?
Well I am an optimist, be the change in your community darkest before the dawn, that kinda shit. So I am hoping shit is just really dark and the suns about to come over the hill. And hopefully congress will wake the fuck up and realize they are going to be in the unemployment line with the rest of the people "who do not want to work"... Most experts on the matters of history say this is one of the darkest times for humanity, so like I said hopefully shit is darkest before the dawn and this is the beginning of a large awakening for mankind as a whole. I will try to do my part just hope you all are ready to do yours when the time is right.
 

Amos Otis

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What I care about is that you and most other americans write seemingly all muslims off as being incapable of living among us. Not all muslims..........
In fact, I haven't done that at all. It's easy to check.

The 'all muslim' line of thought came from other posters responses, unless you're speaking of the fact that the near daily atrocities carried out by declared jihadists - now in this country - are carried out by muslims.

Extrapolate whatever you want from that. But that is the fact, regardless of who's to blame for pi$$ing them off.

Think about what happened today, and think how easy that could have been - and may now soon be - any business that employs a 'diverse' workforce. Do you work? Family? Friends?

What's your reaction going to be if a muslim co-worker starts 'witnessing' to you? Knowing what you know about today?
 
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