Progress Report

Just ripped my first male out of the garden, we've marked a few more, about four or five that will more than likely get the chop tomorrow. Spotted two beautiful females too, they're the hottest honnies in there and are going to be the ones we are going to clone. Real tiny tear-shaped buds on the fem's, tiny little balls on the males.

At the conjunctions, where the bud grows, can you get more than one female bud growing side by side on the same nodule? On some of the plants there are more than one bud, all of these I suspect as males. Am I right?

I hope my question doesn't sound too confusing as it does to me when I read it out. Obviously there are 4 sides, can two female buds occupy the same side, right on top of each other so they are almost joined at the hip?

Also it is only the tops that are flowering, so it should be okay to clone the bottom branches right?

I would clone the bottom branches. The clones are not going to take as well as it would on a plant in the vegatative cycle. But they will take. Just give them lots of care.

Yes, buds grow on top of buds. That's how they get fat.

I don't really understand what you're asking. This will be a big learning experience for you, and you will probably make a mistake. Mother Nature is tricky!

I will say that males usually show sex first, and they are usually the biggest and best plants that you have. Those runts that you hope will be males are your prize plants.

Just don't remove any plants until you are certain they are a boy, then bag the whole thing and chop it at ground level.

You can clone any branch, but whether showing any buds on that branch or not, the plant is flowering, and the clones will have to revert to veg and try to root at the same time. Lower branches have less growth hormone and will root easier than upper branches.

They'll need a lot of loving!

didnt i hear someone say (widow i think) they lose potency if they are reverted in to veg from flowering? did this occur even if its right after first signs of sex?

I don't think that they lose potency. I've never done it, so I don't have personal experience, but if you successfully revert the plant, and allow her to grow vegetatively for long enough, and have a healthy plant to flower, then the potency should be the same. The question is how healthy a plant can you get, and will she yield the same.

I've never done it because it takes way too much time, and I can have another crop about to harvest already. Besides, from a purist's standpoint, I wouldn't do it for a mother plant, just cause she'd be a revert!

In all the pictures I have looked at they show males pods in bunches and females as singular. Can you have 2 female pods growing right on top of each other? The pods are all still pretty immature at the mo'.

This isn't as easy as I thought it was going to be... Most of the ones that are showing something are the bigger better plant, the two fems are shorter and seem bushier. I think they are showing now because they have been in the prime position. There's a big lanky sod in there, our biggest one, he's been in prime position all the way and isn't showing yet, looks like he aint even starting. You never know he might turn out to be a she. The male pods are definitely round and the fem's tear-shaped. How long is it from when the male pods start to when they drop their load?

I'm going to do the clones today, thinking of using the stealth method. is this a bad idea for reverted clones?

Nice jugs by the way widow, keep up the good work.

Just make sure you keep them moist. Spray them with a spray bottle a couple times a day. It helps them get moisture since they dont have roots for the job. As far as losing potency... I read that in a book years ago. I dont know how true it is. But if it makes you feel any better my romulan mother came from a budding plant. The clone was about 4-5 inches tall and had a 1 inch bud on it when I got it. I went ahead and cut it off and smoked it

this is a test

Killed 10 males today, we were going to keep them somewhere else but we got para' about pollen sticking to our clothes. About four definite females and at least 6 maybes. Mr. Lanky is showing one pod and it's tear-shaped, mr. lanky is one of the pic's in my gallery. We had him, her down as a male, almost from the start, I think we are going to be pleasantly surprised in the next couple of days. 6 days into flowering and already a quarter of the plants have been taken out of the garden, the ones still in the small pots have been placed into the spare large pots, and we are a couple of happy chappies. The definite females are so-called because we have seen the white hairs coming out of the tear-shaped pod, the maybes just have the tear-shaped pods.

I think our inexperience was holding us back yesterday, even though they were obvious males our hesitance to rip them out was very strong. We had to act today as one of the males looked ready to burst. We feel much more confident now and I'm going back up to check for more males later. There could be as much as 10 more, but I doubt it, maybe 5 or 6. Even if there are 10 we'll still be left with 20 females.

40 plants to start with, and 20 females to harvest. That's the way it's supposed to work!

Transplanting during flowering is tough on the plant. She is trying to stretch outward with new growth, in preparation for flowering, and now she has to go through transplant shock, too.

Take it easy on your girls.

If I could have avoided the transplant then i would have. Things didn't go exactly to plan and we had to make do with what we had. My funds were coming from selling weed and then the famine hit. Originally we had 80 seeds and germinated every single one, they were in small pots at first so it was prudent at the time to just buy the three lights, buying another three on the next transplant. Unfortunately I've never been much of a saver so when the famine hit I didn't have the funds to buy the rest of the lights, plus I got done for handling stolen goods and was in police cells for 3 days before getting out of court with a 200 pound fine. after getting out my mate tells me that all the plants have wilted, that he'd been on this site and found a thread explaining exactly what to do in this situation. That thread saved our crop, well half of it.

A majority of the plants that were lost were destroyed through my paranoia. I'd just got out and my brief tells me that the CID are very interested in what happens to me in court. So after very little sleep I went home and started smoking and thinking. Why were the old bill so interested in what happens to me in court? This led to me phoning my mate and telling him to get rid of all but ten of the plants, my reasoning being that 10 is a pack of seeds which equals a hobby. It was a few hours later that I rang him back to tell him to forget everything I had said. But alas, it was too late. He had hand-picked certain plants that he felt deserved the chop, and we were left with half.

I hope this goes some way to explaining my actions.

Wow, sorry Mate. I was talking half-heartedly with the 'take it easy' crack.

But I'm glad that you took the time to type out your specific feelings and attitudes concerning your grow, because it is an excellent example of how an idea can easily snowball into a panic situation that can wipe you out.

I believe that you will persevere...

Thanks for the confidence pot'. I'm just glad I started when I did. In a little under 2 months this famine is going to be a very good thing.