Power out DWC week 8 flower

How long can plants go without air in the buckets?

I have two plants that are a week before finish and one three weeks.

If i need to I can chop the two a week early but the other one will be a waste.

Shit sucks. Back up gennie in the future.

Back up and running. Neighbors got me scared. Said last time it was out it was gone for a week.

in general mature plants that are well rooted into the water can do without the bubbler, not sure how long they can go for, never had that issue myself but should be fine for awhile I would think, few days maybe even?

When i used to go fishing alot, I used to buy these little disks you would drop into a bucket of minnows to keep the water aerated, they would last hours. I've wondered if they would work in an emergency to keep some oxygen in the water and be safe for plants? power goes out throw one or two in the bucket/res

here's a link :https://www.google.com/shopping/product/7103083771328195235?q=oxygen+tablet+for+fish+in+hydroponics&biw=1024&bih=633&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.84607526,d.eXY&tch=1&ech=1&psi=RPbIVOG4NMqwggTK6YLACQ.1422456394672.11&ei=oPbIVJnJBMGuggT2u4PADA&ved=0CIwBEKYrMAU

the answer depends on factors
how cold the water is
how much air was going tho it


with no air going in the water will sooner or later lose all the oxygen and the roots will start to drown several hours at most

justugh said:

the answer depends on factors
how cold the water is
how much air was going tho it


with no air going in the water will sooner or later lose all the oxygen and the roots will start to drown several hours at most

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False

I've grown a plant for the first 4 weeks without any air stones. Slower growth and nutrient uptake is what happens, not death lol

Your plant will live in unaerated water for weeks bro. Without oxygen in your roots the plant metabolism will start to die but it will still uptake water to stay alive.

The absence of light for a couple days would do more to hinder your crop than roots hang in in water. Remember not all your roots are submerged so its still getting oxygen.

hydroMD said:

False

I've grown a plant for the first 4 weeks without any air stones. Slower growth and nutrient uptake is what happens, not death lol

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if the water did not have a stone did u have a drip ring because they need air in the water that is just basic life stuff

when u filling it off the tap at home u are mixing air into the water then when u pour u are mixing more air in ..............dissolved oxygen is a must in the water the guy is talking about a full grown plant and cutting the air in the water

the roots will drown .....the feed in the system will settle

The title says "week 8 flower". You're fine bro. You should be harvesting soon so anything that happens won't do much harm anyway.

I run a Battery UPS like the kind you use for your computer. You can find them at Wally's or Staples pretty cheap. They'll keep your air pumps running for days if you get a big enough one. Lights are a different story.

I know a couple of guys that keep around a small Honda generator. It only takes a small light to keep your veg plants from flowering so you don't need much power.

justugh said:

if the water did not have a stone did u have a drip ring because they need air in the water that is just basic life stuff

when u filling it off the tap at home u are mixing air into the water then when u pour u are mixing more air in ..............dissolved oxygen is a must in the water the guy is talking about a full grown plant and cutting the air in the water

the roots will drown .....the feed in the system will settle

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Your wrong. Plant may not thrive but it does survive. Amd no I used no stone or recirculation

hydroMD said:

Your wrong. Plant may not thrive but it does survive. Amd no I used no stone or recirculation

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i am sorry u are messed up

the sheer fact of growing is to get it as perfect as we can so the plant go boom with flowers and resins anything other then is useless what u are talking about the plant he has would be damaged the glands undersized the power will be weak

all HYDRO systems need dissolved oxygen ......ebb and flow....dwc....drip all of them a plant that lives and gives u 14 grams if that lucky with how much money in gear power and chemicals to feed it .....your method is crazy the numbers make it not worth it and that would close down every shop/grow in the world

the power goes out in a decent hydro u have about 6/7 hours to rig something up for those roots to get air so the grow does not under yield ........if u look at a major grow they have a tie in to city power and they also have a back up gen to run the air pumps and lights

it just common sense .......sorry if i am coming off like a ass but dang man this is like ppl saying nazi and jewish ppl never did death camps or aids is fake

justugh said:

if the water did not have a stone did u have a drip ring because they need air in the water that is just basic life stuff

when u filling it off the tap at home u are mixing air into the water then when u pour u are mixing more air in ..............dissolved oxygen is a must in the water the guy is talking about a full grown plant and cutting the air in the water

the roots will drown .....the feed in the system will settle

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Fact: I have done it, first hand, purposely and unintentional, and have never killed a plant due to "drowning" it. 8 years of deep water culture with plenty of 2-5 day power outages along the way. Please just trust me until you can run your own experiment.

You are correct o2 is vital for plant growth and survival, but your roots are getting enough oxygen from whats floating in your reservoir or hanging from your net pot. As long as you have a low enough ec the plant will keep up taking water just fine.


Is ot possible to kill a plant by drowning it? Sure. In a closed reservoir filled to the top

justugh said:

i am sorry u are messed up

the sheer fact of growing is to get it as perfect as we can so the plant go boom with flowers and resins anything other then is useless what u are talking about the plant he has would be damaged the glands undersized the power will be weak

all HYDRO systems need dissolved oxygen ......ebb and flow....dwc....drip all of them a plant that lives and gives u 14 grams if that lucky with how much money in gear power and chemicals to feed it .....your method is crazy the numbers make it not worth it and that would close down every shop/grow in the world

the power goes out in a decent hydro u have about 6/7 hours to rig something up for those roots to get air so the grow does not under yield ........if u look at a major grow they have a tie in to city power and they also have a back up gen to run the air pumps and lights

it just common sense .......sorry if i am coming off like a ass but dang man this is like ppl saying nazi and jewish ppl never did death camps or aids is fake

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Are you really this dense? This isn't my 'method' of growing. The topic was if this guys plants were going to die. You lead him astray and I called you out. His plants would NOT DIE.

Not once did I say using stagnant water is a prefered method of mine, nor did I say its optimal. I have kept genetics this way with very low ec though and the stunted growth fits my grow cycle wonderfully.

Im well aware of the conditions needed for optimal growth, you just got butt hurt you were wrong and made up an entirely new topic in your head

justugh said:

i am sorry u are messed up

the sheer fact of growing is to get it as perfect as we can so the plant go boom with flowers and resins anything other then is useless what u are talking about the plant he has would be damaged the glands undersized the power will be weak

all HYDRO systems need dissolved oxygen ......ebb and flow....dwc....drip all of them a plant that lives and gives u 14 grams if that lucky with how much money in gear power and chemicals to feed it .....your method is crazy the numbers make it not worth it and that would close down every shop/grow in the world

the power goes out in a decent hydro u have about 6/7 hours to rig something up for those roots to get air so the grow does not under yield ........if u look at a major grow they have a tie in to city power and they also have a back up gen to run the air pumps and lights

it just common sense .......sorry if i am coming off like a ass but dang man this is like ppl saying nazi and jewish ppl never did death camps or aids is fake

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sat in buble cloner unplugged for three weeks. Looks pretty hindered.

Well fuck i'm turnin my pumps off!

@hydroMD post 55
https://www.rollitup.org/t/call-it-hydro-exp-gone-mad-imput-wellcome-autoflowering-strain-gone-nutz.764237/page-3

yes ......the point is to get the most out of the water feed power this was my half assed 1st attempt at doing a DWC ............if u have the room and the money something like that is more then repeatable i am only starting my 3rd dwc ever this time i am going with LED lights that i have control of the light waves it admits (this one i am going to control the growth better to get a understanding 3x3 scrog )
.have a look at the root mass and stalk at the end of the post

i do not claim to know everything but basic logic dictates not a great idea .......one plant sent me and 3 buddies to denver for the show on 4/20 last year

justugh said:

@hydroMD post 55
https://www.rollitup.org/t/call-it-hydro-exp-gone-mad-imput-wellcome-autoflowering-strain-gone-nutz.764237/page-3

yes ......the point is to get the most out of the water feed power this was my half assed 1st attempt at doing a DWC ............if u have the room and the money something like that is more then repeatable i am only starting my 3rd dwc ever this time i am going with LED lights that i have control of the light waves it admits (this one i am going to control the growth better to get a understanding 3x3 scrog )
.have a look at the root mass and stalk at the end of the post

i do not claim to know everything but basic logic dictates not a great idea .......one plant sent me and 3 buddies to denver for the show on 4/20 last year

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Not sure what point your making here???

turning off the oxygen to the roots is not a smart idea by any means ........alls u are doing is killing root zone and feeding pores decreasing what the plant can use

hydroMD said:

Not sure what point your making here???

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justugh said:

turning off the oxygen to the roots is not a smart idea by any means ........alls u are doing is killing root zone and feeding pores decreasing what the plant can use

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LOL. DUDE....STOP.

I already told you I know its not optimal.

MY ONLY POINT I made was this guys plants would not die with a power outage.

Do you understand?

Not once did I say not using air stones or aeration in general is a superior method!!! I simply said a plant WILL NOT DIE FROM IT.

I get that you understand the basics of hydroponics, you dont need to prove that. What you need to understand Is DWC is not aeroponics. . . You have much more leeway than your current interpretation.

Obviously we strive for perfection, but cannabis is extremely robust and can handle a lot.

Ps. Nice journal.

When you stop growing autos and get some genetics good enough you never want to lose them, maybe you will understand the value of slow in down the veg of a hydro plant. It can be very convenient for keeping genetics and staying under plant size/number limits.

hydroMD said:

LOL. DUDE....STOP.

I already told you I know its not optimal.

MY ONLY POINT I made was this guys plants would not die with a power outage.

Do you understand?

Not once did I say not using air stones or aeration in general is a superior method!!! I simply said a plant WILL NOT DIE FROM IT.

I get that you understand the basics of hydroponics, you dont need to prove that. What you need to understand Is DWC is not aeroponics. . . You have much more leeway than your current interpretation.

Obviously we strive for perfection, but cannabis is extremely robust and can handle a lot.

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my point is anything longer then 6/7 hours with no more oxygen in there is bad for the plant

the one guy talking about using the UPS battery back ups is the only other person on here i seen give any good info