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Plz help me Caterpillars/poop

Discussion in 'Bugs' started by john wishmyer, Oct 27, 2017.

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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    sooo about my fourth week of flowering and ive discovered an infestation of these little
    fuckin caterpillars!!! ive already taken off a couple buds off my plant due to the stem being brown along with poop covering them. ive already bought catepillar BT and have been going through each plant with tweezers killing anything i find cant believe these things are ruining my crop. is there anything i can do for them?
     
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    vostok

    vostok Well-Known Member

    Neem oil...cold pressed

    mixed with a pint/600ml of warm water and sprayed

    and a tsp of neem..does wonders

    and means you will collect a pension later in life

    does not impart flavor or taste

    is organic and systemic

    good luck
     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    can that even be used during flowering? i am about half way through the cycle plz help
     

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    vostok

    vostok Well-Known Member

    sure can I use it

    it has a short life //24-48h

    it don't like UV so i apply daily

    after inspection,

    currently I'm fighting er ..slugs
     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    huhi was alwaya told not to apply during flower guess ill make a mixture of bt and neem n hopefully that worksout cuz these caterpillars will die
     
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    vostok

    vostok Well-Known Member

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    8 oz. Thuricide BT Caterpillar Control Concentrate

    Product Overview

    Thuricide BT Caterpillar Control concentrate is used by organic gardeners and is made from bacteria that is toxic to listed pests. Safe to use on all plants, vegetables and edible crops. Very low toxicity to humans and pets.

    • Used by organic gardeners
    • Controls caterpillars and worms
    • Use on ornamentals, fruits, vegetables, trees and flowering plants
    • Low toxicity to humans and animals

    About Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis)
    Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis) is a natural bacteria that is commonly found in soil. When eaten by caterpillars, the bacteria produce proteins that paralyze the caterpillar’s digestive system, which causes them to stop feeding and die.

    Bt is safe for use in organic gardens because it has a specific target and is nontoxic to humans,
    animals, and beneficial insects. It’s approved for use in vegetable gardens up to the day of harvest,
    though all vegetables and herbs should still be thoroughly washed before eaten.

     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    bought that yesterday but most of my crop is already infested with catepillar shit and i fear mold is gonna take moat of my crop a bit sad i didnt do something about this earlier but first grow i guess mainly take away what i learned from it
     
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    vostok

    vostok Well-Known Member

    going to war on your first crop is no joke!

    a grower must, .. preferably later tho..lol

    this BT stuff sounds ok

    but the effect of neem on bt is unknown??

    bt being a bacteria may well rock and roll then roll over ...dead

    we wait for more info from you

    post pics please

    good luck again!
     
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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    Neem did leave a little after taste to my buds when I had to use it deep into flower. But a bud wash with H2O2 water will help a lot. and alternate the use of neem and BT.
     
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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    I know you don't want to hear this now, but I had an old Navy Master Chief who would always say, "proper planning prevents piss poor performance." If you will do preventive spraying it helps a ton. I learned this the hard way in '16. {one of my strains is named Rotten Stinking Bastard due to worms and rot}
     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    i hear you, luckily i have four of em in early flower i think if i spray them once or twice i week with bt and neem i should make it safely through flower this time, fingers crossed!
     

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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    If you continue to grow, you will see a little of it all. Last year I had bud worms out the ass. This year almost no worms, but the summer of rain led to the most bud rot I have ever had.
     
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    CoB_nUt

    CoB_nUt Well-Known Member

    The bt thuracide is what I used once a few moths got into my tent and infected few of my leaves with their eggs which later became catepillars/worms sprayed on top of and undenearth the leaf surface twice a week ,eradicated them with no sign of return. I also used captains jacks dead bug spray in combo. Used as dirctions stated both bottles. One if im not mistaken can besprayed closer to harvest than most products I researched. Also, one of the products I mentioned doesn't kill them instantly takes a bit for it to seep into their system and then it causes havoc. Vedddy nice....
     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    update**
    i have noticed that the bt worked a decent amount and ts looking like im going to be able to make it to harvest with both plants but i am going to have to lose a decent amount of flowers, i have already started spraying the Bt onto some other girls that are in very early flower as a precaution to what happened with the other two. i still am continuing to find the really small ones unfortunately deep in the buds but irs nothing a little but of tweezers and latex gloves cant fix.
     

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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    You can shake those limbs pretty good to get as much of the shit off as possible. "comb" the buds back away from the stalk with your fingers, and give it a good shake.
     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    i dunno man they seem pretty sticky i went through it with gloves and the little pellets seem like theyre on there nice n sturdy
     
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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    True, the stickier it is, the harder it is to get anything off it. When you do chop, make sure you wash your bud in a weak H2O2 solution.
     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    i noticed in my all out war against these little bastards my buds arent as frosty as they were to when they were untouched, i of course used latex because i didnt want the oils on my hands to mess wth the buds. could this be a problem or will my plants continue on to produce more and more trichomes through the cycle?
     
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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    I would think they will continue to produce frost.
     
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    john wishmyer

    john wishmyer Active Member

    hopefully man i had to pick through each individual bud looking for those fuckers! spending so much time doing that left my gloves pretty coated with stickiness, was pretty worried when my buds didnt look as frosty but i guess thats th sacrifice i had to make when desling with these little bastards
     

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