I've just bought 2 of these, I'd like it if you could answer @doz questions about Platinum leds. If you can't/won't, you prove him right anyway.
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Dankistino
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Bro take a reality check. Youve paved a road of turds with your lies and phony claims. How does a vendor get banned from the seediest, lamest, least knowledgeable stoner site? You did it. please explain.
Bro YOU ADS POST STRAIGHT UP LIES
"Platinum LED lights have the HIGHEST PAR/LUMEN OUTPUT PER WATT of any LED grow light! 2x-3x the intensity of any other lights!"
WILDLY UNTRUE AND PREPOSTEROUS the claim of a POS doesnt GAF lying clown
"800w HPS replacement with 6ft x 4ft coverage at 18" height PERFECT"
Ya perfect for lettuce. Idiot clown you will be pummeled here.
"SUPERIOR 12-band full spectrum from the depths of UV to the heights of IR - The most complete and efficient spectral output available"
really? secret sauce plus UV magic GTFOH
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This guy cannot even answer some marketing questions about his light. LEGITIMATE questions that SHOULD be listed on his website.
Funny. Anyone who purchases a light from here on out should have their head examined. Lights are so shady (pun intended) that the owner wont even disclose (if he even knows) the specifications.
Funny. Anyone who purchases a light from here on out should have their head examined. Lights are so shady (pun intended) that the owner wont even disclose (if he even knows) the specifications.
Dankistino
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420 mag busts out the bastinado
i received this message from mods at 420 when i chimed in on a post about led sponsors being required to post their data sheets
Unfortunately in their time as sponsors here, Platinum caused us considerable problems and a massive drain of company resources. They turned the members who ran Platinum sponsored journals into evangelical trolls: both they and Platinum would attack any member who questioned their technical and performance data or their manufacturing details. They spread negative energy across our website and continually fueled, aggressive arguments in an already turbulent market sector. Their heavy-handed marketing tactics actually drove good members away from our website - members who simply and politely questioned their product claims or asked for more information. It is a continual challenge at the best of times for us to keep LED spammers and sock-puppets off the website; the last thing we need is drama and negative energy caused by our own sponsors.
Johnny Lawrence
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I've got a Platinum story to share. That company is a joke. I'm busy at the moment, and I believe my post will be a bit long. Be back in a few hours.
For now, I'll share a funny link.
https://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-lighting/233681-platinum-led-salesperson-2.html?s=d59197542019ad4bb6a3ece10c810d5f
The bomb drops at post #22. Classic.
For now, I'll share a funny link.
https://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-lighting/233681-platinum-led-salesperson-2.html?s=d59197542019ad4bb6a3ece10c810d5f
The bomb drops at post #22. Classic.
Tjohnsoniv1200
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@Tjohnsoniv1200 Oh good. You are here to answer questions.
What diodes do you run (brand/model of each color)?
380nm/415nm/440nm/460nm/480nm/615nm/630nm/660nm/720nm/740nm/760nm Bridgelux (rather not share model numbers) I think i'm missing one of the diodes nm sorry!
Cree XML2 on the p4 and p9 ( 2700-3750K Warm White)
What drivers do you utilize? - Confidential
Is your light UL Listed? Not now, but our future commercial line TBD will have ETL and IP67 Water resistant rating.
What is the efficiency level of your light? 1.6 PAR/w or more depending on the model. I think most important is the yield per watt, which we've had plenty of customers get well over 1gram per watt.
How much PPFD does each of your lights put out?
PPFD measurements and video test are on our site: https://platinumgrowlights.com
By all means, make me a believer and I will purchase one today.
Good luck to you @doz! We only wish you the best of luck and the dankest buds no matter what light you choose.
I case you missed our answer from 2 hours ago.
Based on your extremely vague and pathetic response, I am going to assume that your lights about 35% efficient. I am goign with the 35% number as I believe 100% that is realistic (maybe even optimistic). So here you have your P450. 255w of "bloom power".
https://platinumgrowlights.com/products/p450
And here (just using as an example as he gives you quite a bit of info on his lights) you have a TastyLED @ 245w.
https://www.tastyled.com/product-p/t3-2100.htm
So for the same price, I am getting a 15% (possibly more) more efficient light. That means if I were to run 3 Tasty LED in a 4x4 area, I would damn near need a 4th unit of PLED just to equal the 3 TLED bringing my investment in lighting 33% higher. With that said, you wont even disclose which diodes you are using! Seriously? Because it is so secretive? How about I order a unit from Amazon, tear it apart to see for myself and post my findings (and of course, send it back for a return)? I have a strange feeling I am not going to find what you claim. Next, your drivers are confidential? Oh, you mean they are some cheap pieces of shit that may catch on fire at any given time.
Go back to 420mag where you have a loyal following of dumbasses.
@Tjohnsoniv1200
Say hi to Michelle for me when you're in the office
I don't mind e shine really. Everybody in the USA hates them.
In the old led days, E shine used to make Advanced led (USA) leds for them, like the diamond series! They may be made in the USA now or whatever, but they were not always!
Advanced Led then went to a cheaper Chinese supplier! So that left E shine with the skill, the knowledge and the staff...
Tell me seriously now people, if any of you were the Boss at E shine, would you not have done the same thing. Keep your friends and colleagues in work and made a go of it?? !
Advanced Platinum, where the hell did you come from in all this shit storm 'If you are in fact Not E shine'???
If you ain't trying to nick advanced led's business by calling your led Advanced Platinum led, then you could have fooled me!
Say hi to Michelle for me when you're in the office
I don't mind e shine really. Everybody in the USA hates them.
In the old led days, E shine used to make Advanced led (USA) leds for them, like the diamond series! They may be made in the USA now or whatever, but they were not always!
Advanced Led then went to a cheaper Chinese supplier! So that left E shine with the skill, the knowledge and the staff...
Tell me seriously now people, if any of you were the Boss at E shine, would you not have done the same thing. Keep your friends and colleagues in work and made a go of it?? !
Advanced Platinum, where the hell did you come from in all this shit storm 'If you are in fact Not E shine'???
If you ain't trying to nick advanced led's business by calling your led Advanced Platinum led, then you could have fooled me!
Jimdamick
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I run 14 Platinum 300 (actually 360w) fixtures in 2 rooms, with 2 plants (3'X3' area) under each light, and I started with 1 to test. I bought them on Amazon for a good price, and so far they have performed well, and have been running them for 2 years with no problems I just checked to see the reviews on Amazon, because I saw those light being smashed here, and was wondering what's up with that Out of 215 reviews, 76% gave that fixture a 5 star rating, of which I was one of them. For included free shipping and a 5 year warranty for a light that works great and is very well made, what more can you ask for? Maybe if you want to build your own, you can do better, but who has the time, parts, knowledge or desire when you can get a well made LED light for less than $370. Not me.
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Johnny Lawrence
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This light will kick a P3 in the balls.
https://www.tastyled.com/product-p/t2-2100.htm
That's just one example. Don't get me wrong - I own a couple of Platinums that I purchased a few years ago. They're not terrible lights, they'll grow decent weed. But manufacturers claims are way the hell out there. I run mostly COB lighting now, though I do run the Platinums(P150s) as supplemental lighting during the last several weeks of flowering. They seem to make the buds frost up just a bit more, though I suspect I could get similar results with some deep red Osrams.
Timber kits are another option for those who don't want to bother with DIY, though you still need to purchase or build a frame.
Jimdamick
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You can't beat COB, but they are pricy. The light you mentioned has a lot less wattage than the Platinum for the same amount of money, and I don't think the spread is enough for 2 plants, although I'm probably wrong, as usual. I got a little closet that I am looking to use to let my wife grow her own plant so she will stay away the fuck away from mine, and I might go for that fixture that you mentioned and give it a try. Thanks for the info.
Dankistino
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Bro we know its possible to grow plants with platinum or mars. The blatant lying and other deceptive practices are wrong.
Platinum leds600wlight actually supplies about 125 par watts for $650. Not recommended.
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alesh
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I'm pretty sure it's <100W, probably even <80W. Spectrumking with Cree diodes is about 28% efficient. I can't see P anywhere higher than low 20s or less.
AtticGrower002
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Has anyone ever done a true side by side with one of these platinum lights and another led or diy fixture? Id love to see that. I feel like these lights have a terrible rep, possibly undeserved. Are there claims bogus? Ya, probably, isn't that just called marketing? Anyway, if anyone knows of a side by side link it up, wheres the proof these lights suck so bad?
Dankistino
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Actually it works the other way around. We shouldn't have to be like guard dogs pouncing on every slime ball trying to suck dollars out of the pockets of new growers or folks new to solid state lighting.
Plantinum has a history of lying, cheating and re-branding Chinese imports (some with the mfg's sticker still attached) do your own research
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AtticGrower002
Member
A hostile response, feel like you misunderstood me completly. I am not questioning the integrity or honesty of Platinum. All I am saying is this, the lights clearly grow healthy plants, and the price is reasonable (meaning there are far more expensive options). Soo, I guess I don't see what the big deal is? I'd just like to see the physical proof of a side by side to see what yield difference we're really talking about.
Dankistino
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hostile doesn't mean what you think it means.
Like i said if you're interested do your own research. In that pic you see a grow that looks to be wondrous using PLC and maybe an amare or two.
Platinum has a slew of fan boys on 420. look around and see if you feel those grows compare with the grows shown by a legit, mfg, who lists components and assembles in USA
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Johnny Lawrence
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Are you talking about the Platinum P300 or the P600?
If you're talking about the P3, then the Tasty I linked to has 10 or 20 less watts for the same money and will school that platinum in terms of results. The P3 has 180 watts. The Tasty has 15 less watts, costs $20 less and will crush that outdated P3. That's a fact.
If you're talking about the P6, that's closer to a 300 watt light(345w), and again, the Tasty 4 cob light will outperform it using less wattage and will cost you less money.
I'm just using Tasty as an example. There are several other cob led manufacturers who are also producing outstanding lights.
If you're worried about spread, you could always get a couple of single cob lights and simply space them about a bit further.
But Platinum does use super secret drivers made from dried unicorn tears, so there is that . . .
Tjohnsoniv1200
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Damn guys. Truly, take a hit and calm down a bit.
It comes down to this. We are a VERY successful provider of LED grow lights for the hobby and commercial markets. We firmly believe we have affordable, quality LED lights with that produce great PAR output, with a solid spectrum to match.
How do we know?
We have thousands of successful customers. Go to Instagram, Facebook, Youtube, or one of the many forums with people doing live journals, and see for yourselves. We love our customers, and are dedicated to doing everything we can to make them successful.
Tasty LED may have a great light. It has one really good review on Autoflower.net where they were doing a grow journal. We have about 6 active grow journals going on that same site. You can also look at the 4081 posts for #platinumled and compare it to the 22 for #tastyled, on instagram.
I do have to apologize that some of our 'fanboys' do get quite evangelical on other forums about how much the love our lights. Anyone notice how as soon as we were kicked off of 420Mag you couldn't go on that forum without tripping over Mars Hydro? I'm just saying...
I do have to admit Sarah from Mars does one hell of a job. I have no idea how she covers so many forum threads all at once.
The truth is, no matter how many technical specifications I supply you will never be satisfied. We are under no obligation to open up our hood and show you the part or model numbers of each and every one of our components. Just like Gavita would never provide you with their ballast PCB layout.
You want to see our PPFD output for each of our panels, go to our website and check out our videos. If you don't believe us talk to our customers. You can also stop by our booth at the Marijuana Biz Conference in Las Vegas and bring your own quantum (PAR) meter and verify for yourself. We'll have a very large booth...you can't miss it!
Every LED Grow light vendor claims to have the MOST POWERFUL, with the BEST SPECTRUM. @Johnny Lawrence we use 12 bands of top bin diodes with LED drivers set a static 650mA of output. We did add dried unicorn tears and rainbow farts for that extra juice, so great guess Johnny...sweep the leg!
What matters is customer success and results.
Not exactly sure why 'concerned growers' like some of the people in this thread, most of which have never used our LEDs, have made their moral obligation to educate others on how much they don't like our lights. I don't really understand what we have done to take up so much of your mental real estate.
I suspect some of you may work for a competitor. We understand that the grow light industry is super saturated with 100's of LED, HID, Induction, and Plasma vendors alI fighting to get a piece of the action. I get it...it's a tough market. Trying to sabotage your competition on social media will probably not the best use of your time. There are better ways to get customers.
@AtticGrower002 you can see a video where we test our lights next to quite a few other players on the market on our website. There are also quite a few comparison videos by other growers on youtube as well.
I know a lot of you are fans of COB technology used for growing on the market. We haven't added COBs to our panels as of yet for a few specific reasons. If your interested in knowing why, check out our blog. If you still believe COB's are for you, I encourage your to check out Johnson Grow Lights. @Stephenj37826 ......What's up Steve...I met you in Knoxville awhile back. I worked with Greg at Lumetric Lighting and tested your light in our integrated sphere. I hope biz is going well!
For any real growers checking out this thread, we truely wish the best of luck and the dankest buds no matter what light you choose. If I had a joint i'd pass it to ya...
Just to show there's no hard feelings...here is a nice track for your listening enjoyment!
It comes down to this. We are a VERY successful provider of LED grow lights for the hobby and commercial markets. We firmly believe we have affordable, quality LED lights with that produce great PAR output, with a solid spectrum to match.
How do we know?
We have thousands of successful customers. Go to Instagram, Facebook, Youtube, or one of the many forums with people doing live journals, and see for yourselves. We love our customers, and are dedicated to doing everything we can to make them successful.
Tasty LED may have a great light. It has one really good review on Autoflower.net where they were doing a grow journal. We have about 6 active grow journals going on that same site. You can also look at the 4081 posts for #platinumled and compare it to the 22 for #tastyled, on instagram.
I do have to apologize that some of our 'fanboys' do get quite evangelical on other forums about how much the love our lights. Anyone notice how as soon as we were kicked off of 420Mag you couldn't go on that forum without tripping over Mars Hydro? I'm just saying...
I do have to admit Sarah from Mars does one hell of a job. I have no idea how she covers so many forum threads all at once.
The truth is, no matter how many technical specifications I supply you will never be satisfied. We are under no obligation to open up our hood and show you the part or model numbers of each and every one of our components. Just like Gavita would never provide you with their ballast PCB layout.
You want to see our PPFD output for each of our panels, go to our website and check out our videos. If you don't believe us talk to our customers. You can also stop by our booth at the Marijuana Biz Conference in Las Vegas and bring your own quantum (PAR) meter and verify for yourself. We'll have a very large booth...you can't miss it!
Every LED Grow light vendor claims to have the MOST POWERFUL, with the BEST SPECTRUM. @Johnny Lawrence we use 12 bands of top bin diodes with LED drivers set a static 650mA of output. We did add dried unicorn tears and rainbow farts for that extra juice, so great guess Johnny...sweep the leg!
What matters is customer success and results.
Not exactly sure why 'concerned growers' like some of the people in this thread, most of which have never used our LEDs, have made their moral obligation to educate others on how much they don't like our lights. I don't really understand what we have done to take up so much of your mental real estate.
I suspect some of you may work for a competitor. We understand that the grow light industry is super saturated with 100's of LED, HID, Induction, and Plasma vendors alI fighting to get a piece of the action. I get it...it's a tough market. Trying to sabotage your competition on social media will probably not the best use of your time. There are better ways to get customers.
@AtticGrower002 you can see a video where we test our lights next to quite a few other players on the market on our website. There are also quite a few comparison videos by other growers on youtube as well.
I know a lot of you are fans of COB technology used for growing on the market. We haven't added COBs to our panels as of yet for a few specific reasons. If your interested in knowing why, check out our blog. If you still believe COB's are for you, I encourage your to check out Johnson Grow Lights. @Stephenj37826 ......What's up Steve...I met you in Knoxville awhile back. I worked with Greg at Lumetric Lighting and tested your light in our integrated sphere. I hope biz is going well!
For any real growers checking out this thread, we truely wish the best of luck and the dankest buds no matter what light you choose. If I had a joint i'd pass it to ya...
Just to show there's no hard feelings...here is a nice track for your listening enjoyment!