Pinkie Pie!!!!

black jesus said:

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i wonder if next season you should place some ladybugs or something to help out a bit....or a bird feeder they will eat a lot of the bugs. But not sure if they will eat your seeds as well

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naw, ladybugs only really help with aphids and birds do in fact eat seeds, ive seen it. caterpillars and thrips are my number one issues and the best way to get rid of them is to spray and remove them manually, I dont like to spray though it kills everything in its path good and bad Id rather just work with nature and take a slightly lower yield, its not like I sell bud anymore or anything this is all personal.

Indoors its a different story, best to keep your environment as sterile as possible and eradicate pests at first sight. your the one in charge indoors but outdoors its up to nature.

Iamlegend2121 said:

Do you not like to use Bacillus thuringiensis? You could always purchase a whole box of mantises to eat them. I've never tried it before but I've heard that planting peppermint, sage, or lavender keeps them out.

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to be honest with you, the first run I didnt spray because I want to select that line for outdoor hardiness so only those strong enough or possesing repellent qualities would be selected for next years outdoor seeds and hopefully after a few years of selections in this manner the weak performers will be edged out by the really vigorous/ bug resistant plants.

this batch I havent sprayed because I havent had too much of an issue with bugs but I have nothing against BT I just dont like spraying if I dont have to, Im native american and part of my culture is working with nature not trying to subdue and control it so thats why I am hesitant about just killing shit for my own benefit you know?

1 of my select A1-P was pulled today because a couple of caterpillars really layed into the upper stem and made a good bit of the tissue supporting my oh so valuable seeds to go necrotic.
Seeds were 100% viable as far as I can tell, large and fully colored.

removed the fans, trimmed the non sugary leaves and left her to dry.

How old was she?

Seedlin said:

How old was she?

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July15-September9 (pollinated august 10)
about 60 days give or take.
35 very healthy and viable seeds produced.

Your experiment and project is super educational and helpful! Thanks a shitton.

I'm going to have a bunch of questions once I thoroughly dissect your thread!

I'll start now though lol, what is the average pest resistance in these autoflowers? Did it start off lower and did you Iimprove it at all? Mold? And how viable for a plant and forget strain do you think this is? Also if you don't mind, what general part of the world are you in? NM here...

Found lots of ladybugs (which I set free on my other totes) a few caterpillars (this one mid metamorphosis)
I have also been watching this plant because of its weird growth, I tend not to like plants that are mostly pistils but this guy ended up filling out and stinking pretty nicely.


View of the table where I do most of my paperwork and trimming. just drying these out so I can organize the seeds and label all of the lots.

Lysemith said:

Your experiment and project is super educational and helpful! Thanks a shitton.

I'm going to have a bunch of questions once I thoroughly dissect your thread!

I'll start now though lol, what is the average pest resistance in these autoflowers? Did it start off lower and did you Iimprove it at all? Mold? And how viable for a plant and forget strain do you think this is? Also if you don't mind, what general part of the world are you in? NM here...

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Welcome to the party Lysemith!

I welcome them gladly!

thanks bro, I have made it a point to post all the ups and downs of my project so others can learn from my mistakes and failures and improve on them.

pest resistance at this point ranges wildly from the unscathed to the decimated hahaha its kind of pest dependent, Thrips are pretty well resisted all around but caterpillars (in my observations) seem to prefer the sweet smelling green plants and can really lay into them. I have noticed an increase in vigor and resistance in my lines that ive crossed back together like A1 x B1-(D1) an overall decrease in vegetative vigor in my pure F6 (but an overall increase in average height and overall size).

I have never once had a Pinkie pie contract botrytis, powdery mildew or any other types of mold. I live in Stockton, Ca an extremely hot and dry Mediterranean climate with lots of bugs and ample heat lol

Each generation grows a little better than the last IMO and I am already producing "ideal" specimens within the lines at this point its just a matter of tightening up the phenotypic variation to increase the overall uniformity and stability.

bf80255 said:

Welcome to the party Lysemith!

I welcome them gladly!

thanks bro, I have made it a point to post all the ups and downs of my project so others can learn from my mistakes and failures and improve on them.

pest resistance at this point ranges wildly from the unscathed to the decimated hahaha its kind of pest dependent, Thrips are pretty well resisted all around but caterpillars (in my observations) seem to prefer the sweet smelling green plants and can really lay into them. I have noticed an increase in vigor and resistance in my lines that ive crossed back together like A1 x B1-(D1) an overall decrease in vegetative vigor in my pure F6 (but an overall increase in average height and overall size).

I have never once had a Pinkie pie contract botrytis, powdery mildew or any other types of mold. I live in Stockton, Ca an extremely hot and dry Mediterranean climate with lots of bugs and ample heat lol

Each generation grows a little better than the last IMO and I am already producing "ideal" specimens within the lines at this point its just a matter of tightening up the phenotypic variation to increase the overall uniformity and stability.

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Wonderful! Thank you for the quick and informative response.
I really appreciate that you include your failures and setbacks on the thread because they tend to be the most educational!

It only took one cross of
two autoflower male/female to acquire the gene right? As it is recessive? Can you remark as to their drought tolerance? Not much water here in NM lol . Fortunately not a lot of pests!

Also I haven't seen anywhere on the thread, but do you lollipop or defoliate at all? my aim is to breed an autoflower for the patients here in NM that they could plant and forget or just leave on the windowsill for some meds.

Stockton and NM are similar climates actually! You may have more humidity though. It's amazing if it ever gets over 20% outside lol.

The more I read the more new ideas I'm getting, loving the totes and the staggered or cynical rotation!

Streamlined and efficient, great job!

One more question: could you remark on the relationship between taproots, container size, and flowering length?

Lysemith said:

Wonderful! Thank you for the quick and informative response.
I really appreciate that you include your failures and setbacks on the thread because they tend to be the most educational!

It only took one cross of
two autoflower male/female to acquire the gene right? As it is recessive? Can you remark as to their drought tolerance? Not much water here in NM lol . Fortunately not a lot of pests!

Also I haven't seen anywhere on the thread, but do you lollipop or defoliate at all? my aim is to breed an autoflower for the patients here in NM that they could plant and forget or just leave on the windowsill for some meds.

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agreed,
"Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising every time we fail."
~ Confucius

It took 1 cross of 3 auto males to a single photo female and 3 generations of inbreeding, I still find the occasional photo plant mixed in every few hundred plants but that's just how genetics works

yes its fairly predictably recessive in my lines

Drought tolerance, no I cant say anything about that, even though were in the midst of a severe 5 year long drought I water the plants and keep them in containers (disallowing taproots to seek out deep water) so I wouldn't have any idea. to test for drought tolerance I would have to plant a couple of fields each season in the ground and omit watering, I don't foresee ever selling seeds of drug cannabis to farmers that don't even have enough water for food crops hahaha so drought tolerance is not something I select for.

No, I only do defoliation indoors, there is no need for it outdoors.

Thats a very respectable and noble goal man, Ive been trying to "dummy proof" Pinkie Pie for that same reason but I doubt any plant would be so forgiving as to just leave it in the desert without any supplementation of water lol NM is just about as dry and hot an area as you can find.

Lysemith said:

Stockton and NM are similar climates actually! You may have more humidity though. It's amazing if it ever gets over 20% outside lol.

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its got to 106 degrees here like 15 times this year hahaha im fuckin dying!!!!

Lysemith said:

The more I read the more new ideas I'm getting, loving the totes and the staggered or cynical rotation!

Streamlined and efficient, great job!

One more question: could you remark on the relationship between taproots, container size, and flowering length?

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I got the idea for the totes from a guy on here named hotdiggitysog actually.

thanks boss

getting some custom artwork done for Pinkie, whattyu guys think?

In the mountains here in NM you can find perennial hot/cold springs that are also high enough (7500 plus ft) to stay cool enough not to fluff out.
Often though I'll plant each girl 20ft dead north of a pine tree so that at 12 noon it gets a little shade from the worst of the heat.

As for drought tolerance, cannabis is a very thirsty plant, having the Saguaro OG is never going to happen lol... and like usual, you would have to select your soil and environment outside to fit the ladies some. Planting on streambanks or floodplains is a good idea here.

What I meant about the taproots is this: in my experience autoflowers flip to flower whenever their taproot runs out of room. Yay or nay?

Lysemith said:

In the mountains here in NM you can find perennial hot/cold springs that are also high enough (7500 plus ft) to stay cool enough not to fluff out.
Often though I'll plant each girl 20ft dead north of a pine tree so that at 12 noon it gets a little shade from the worst of the heat.

As for drought tolerance, cannabis is a very thirsty plant, having the Saguaro OG is never going to happen lol... and like usual, you would have to select your soil and environment outside to fit the ladies some. Planting on streambanks or floodplains is a good idea here.

What I meant about the taproots is this: in my experience autoflowers flip to flower whenever their taproot runs out of room. Yay or nay?

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for sure, if I were planting outdoors close to a source of water is always Ideal but for non-guerilla application (majority of growers) its really of little concern.

mmmm kind of, you always find those freaks (especially in the super autos) that just grow no matter what but for 90% of plants... yeah root bound condition elicits a flip to flower (even in the case of non cannabis) you can see it in the tiny stunted fruit on a lot of potted plants.

First seeds from the new totes have begun to come up!

gunna chop those 2 A1-Ch and A1-Ci totes soon (around 60 days) for hash so the pests dont transfer over to my new totes and since 2 of the new totes are those same lines but being run for seed this time now that I know what im looking for.

What kind of hash are you making? Do the leaves have to be fresh or can they be dried already. I have a bunch of trim from my cut a few weeks ago...

This thread is awsome!!!!
Took me some time to read all twenty pages and now my eyes are bleeding but it was worth the time.

Good to see there is a breeder around who is not only in for the money.
I do some breeding too but with photos the last two decades.
have worked out a f10 ibl from a cross I made more than a decade ago (sensi star x black domina) and adapted it very well imo to my outdoor climate.
btw it has red stalks some have red juice too looking like thin blood when making cuttings. Buds are from green (only some) to red and light to deep purple. Selected for overall performance and because I like colors in plants so much for this reddish stem color plus budcolors.
so I know what you walking through bro.

Great work! You are close to your goal.

Btw. Your dogs are nice too man.
I am a dogman too. Granpa bred dogs too. He bred service dogs for police customs and military as well as family dogs. His dogs were good manstoppers too (big oldschool german shepard lines) not the small ones you see today lol.

My first dog was a dane x fila brasilero. A 150 pound male. He was a giant. I have doberman since.
so sweet to the family and pets but so so mean to strangers.
but doberman needs lots of love and hugs if you beat em once I realy would close the door of thr sleepingroom after that. There is a big band of friendship and love between a doberman and you and if you destroy it you are no longer his friend. We have observed hardhanded people getting killed by their doberman while sleeping because of beating them in my country.

Seedlin said:

What kind of hash are you making? Do the leaves have to be fresh or can they be dried already. I have a bunch of trim from my cut a few weeks ago...

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This kind lol
I use dry leaves, dont like fresh material.