Outdoor Bud Quality

sigurd

New Member
personally always liked my outdoor better, but indoor i find you can get much more potent buds because you have more control. but outdoor can be done very well too, sorry for such a vague answer lol i just think indoor is more maintenance but potential for more bud and quality, outdoor is less maintenance but under thhe right conditions can be deeeeeelicious
 

PoopBear

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Usually IDs are much stronger but Nor Cal has been pumping out some Tahoe OG Kush's ( not the same as Tahoe OG) that are said to be hitting in the the high 20% ranges.
 

personal lux

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Outdoor cant compare to indoor when its conditions are peaked. 1200ppms co2, 72-85 degrees, 50% humidity cant beat it with 400ppms, 50-100degrees, and random humidity and more bugs outside. BUT you will get a whole lot more bang for your buck with outdoor, espwcially if you use supplimental lighting and a greenhouse
 

Dr. Who

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Outdoor cant compare to indoor when its conditions are peaked. 1200ppms co2, 72-85 degrees, 50% humidity cant beat it with 400ppms, 50-100degrees, and random humidity and more bugs outside. BUT you will get a whole lot more bang for your buck with outdoor, espwcially if you use supplimental lighting and a greenhouse
I disagree to a point......Yes, indoor can be managed to consistently be "higher" in overall THC.......BUT, with that said. I also believe that outdoor run to it's proper finish. Express a different and deeper "type" of high, maybe you can say more intense...
This is due to the natural lighting spectrum available and that includes the UV spectrum's so often lacking in artificial lighting!

I may get more mold problems outdoors when I run a cpl of personal stash plants from time to time, BUT I get almost no bug problems outdoors in pots in the ground. Go figure?
 

GvegasGrowa

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My best stuff came from ID. Tighter & most potent. Done the same strain innawoods, the garden & the greenhouse. Good & not so good depending on seasons, temp, humidity, ect.
That being said, the quantity i can grow OD is why still do it. I LOVE a nice 7' bush
 
For me it's more about taste and less lung-torture than potency. Had some great OD bud no doubt, but ID can't be beat for smoothness in the lungs and throat. A few strains are just cough-inducing to me, but even those are mellower and easier to inhale than the same OD strains. Greenhouse, I guess that's in the middle.
 

Tidal

Member
Ideally, outdoor should be better than indoor regarding both taste and potency... that is to say when it is done RIGHT. There are just so many terrible outdoor growers out there that it has made people believe that indoor is inherently better. Don't believe it.
 

personal lux

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you can NOT produce the same quality outside as inside. When you say "doing it right" that means conditions for each place being at its best. You cant control co2, nor humidity, nor temp outside. Unless you do a greenhouse and then your just admitting the facts that you need indoor adjustments to produce the same quality. do whatever you do outside with your soil inside and see whats better. I grow veganically, and outdoor stuff i see is poop in comparison. To many outdoor growers trying to pass off their shit as meds. Its pathetic to me.
 

personal lux

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I disagree to a point......Yes, indoor can be managed to consistently be "higher" in overall THC.......BUT, with that said. I also believe that outdoor run to it's proper finish. Express a different and deeper "type" of high, maybe you can say more intense...
This is due to the natural lighting spectrum available and that includes the UV spectrum's so often lacking in artificial lighting!

I may get more mold problems outdoors when I run a cpl of personal stash plants from time to time, BUT I get almost no bug problems outdoors in pots in the ground. Go figure?
I get where your comming from with the light spectrums but when people are using the high quality HPS lighting like i do at $120 a bulb switching twice a year, you cant compare. but, outdoor is the best for a new grower looking to get a bang for his buck and start an indoor grow :)))
 
If everything is optimized perfectly for your grow potency is about the same. If anything the outdoor bud will be more potent cuz artificial light cannot compete with the sun.

But most outdoor bud isn't grown in optimal conditions and doesn't receive the same care and micromanagement that indoor bud does. You can't always harvest at an optimal time etc.

Outdoor bud will always have less bag appeal and be a harsher smoke. You're exposing your bud to the elements. All those dust particles in the air. Etc... But if you protect your buds from the elements (greenhouse) you should be able to grow bud that is just as potent and smooth as any indoor grower.

If you're short on cash or just a total noob I would start with outdoor. A lot more forgiving and the bud will almost always be decent. Once you get a few grows and a few g's under your belt then you can build your grow room
 
you can NOT produce the same quality outside as inside. When you say "doing it right" that means conditions for each place being at its best. You cant control co2, nor humidity, nor temp outside. Unless you do a greenhouse and then your just admitting the facts that you need indoor adjustments to produce the same quality. do whatever you do outside with your soil inside and see whats better. I grow veganically, and outdoor stuff i see is poop in comparison. To many outdoor growers trying to pass off their shit as meds. Its pathetic to me.
What about people who live in climates that are perfect for growing cannabis? You're telling me they can't produce high quality buds outside?

Lol. Your bias is obvious.

But please don't try to act like indoor automatically means better medicine. I know plenty of indoor growers whose grow rooms are far from optimized and their indoor buds couldn't compete with my worst outdoor. And i know plenty of back yard growers who take the time to fully care for their plants needs and short of testing you would never be able to tell their medicine was outdoor.

And as far as price, potency,yield, and bag appeal go greenhouse is superior to both methods.
 

personal lux

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What about people who live in climates that are perfect for growing cannabis? You're telling me they can't produce high quality buds outside?

Lol. Your bias is obvious.

But please don't try to act like indoor automatically means better medicine. I know plenty of indoor growers whose grow rooms are far from optimized and their indoor buds couldn't compete with my worst outdoor. And i know plenty of back yard growers who take the time to fully care for their plants needs and short of testing you would never be able to tell their medicine was outdoor.

And as far as price, potency,yield, and bag appeal go greenhouse is superior to both methods.
Your stupidity amazes me.you go from how optimizing outdoor is best and how you know unoptimozed indoor. THE POINT IS THE BETTER OF THE TWO AT THERE OWN POTENTIAL. A greenhouse is both indoor and outdoor. Like i said you CANNOT control an outdoor grow to produce the same quality. Tell me this then my plants veg and flower under 1000 watters with 140k+ lumens per 16sq ft. Nearly 9k lumens per sq ft. The sun is about 10k When the light is directly shining on your plants. which usually is 50-70% of the time between sunrise and sunset. Please riddle me how the sun is "better"
 

theexpress

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Your stupidity amazes me.you go from how optimizing outdoor is best and how you know unoptimozed indoor. THE POINT IS THE BETTER OF THE TWO AT THERE OWN POTENTIAL. A greenhouse is both indoor and outdoor. Like i said you CANNOT control an outdoor grow to produce the same quality. Tell me this then my plants veg and flower under 1000 watters with 140k+ lumens per 16sq ft. Nearly 9k lumens per sq ft. The sun is about 10k When the light is directly shining on your plants. which usually is 50-70% of the time between sunrise and sunset. Please riddle me how the sun is "better"
It's free.... That's why outdoor is cheaper.
 
Your stupidity amazes me.you go from how optimizing outdoor is best and how you know unoptimozed indoor. THE POINT IS THE BETTER OF THE TWO AT THERE OWN POTENTIAL. A greenhouse is both indoor and outdoor. Like i said you CANNOT control an outdoor grow to produce the same quality. Tell me this then my plants veg and flower under 1000 watters with 140k+ lumens per 16sq ft. Nearly 9k lumens per sq ft. The sun is about 10k When the light is directly shining on your plants. which usually is 50-70% of the time between sunrise and sunset. Please riddle me how the sun is "better"
My stupidity amazes you? You know nothing about me or my intelligence levels. The fact that you feel the need to turn to personal insults and TYPING IN ALL CAPS proves how immature and emotional you are. Truly a man child.

What is "better" is a matter of personal opinion. In my personal opinion outdoor/greenhouse is always "better" than indoor because you can grow potent buds for a fraction of the price. And you spend less time/money trying to optimize an environment since if you live in the right climate your environment is already optimized for you.

I concede that indoor bud, when grown in fully optimal conditions, has better bag appeal and a smoother smoke. But is the overall thc content higher than outdoor bud grown in the same optimal conditions? I think not. Only way to know for sure would be to grow two control plants and then have them tested. I'm not doing that.

But if you noticed the op asked in his post how does bud potency from outdoor "usually" match up to indoor grows. "usually" indoor growers do not take the time and pay the price to full optimize their grow rooms. "Usually" a noob grower will find it easier to yield a potent harvest outdoors.

I'm not gonna keep going back and forth with you because its obvious you're a very angry, very sad, little man. Outdoor bud is not always inferior to indoor because very few indoor growers actually optimize their growing conditions in the first place. And even when bag appeal is inferior that does not automatically mean potency is too. I'll leave it at that.
 

Tidal

Member
you can NOT produce the same quality outside as inside. When you say "doing it right" that means conditions for each place being at its best. You cant control co2, nor humidity, nor temp outside. Unless you do a greenhouse and then your just admitting the facts that you need indoor adjustments to produce the same quality. do whatever you do outside with your soil inside and see whats better. I grow veganically, and outdoor stuff i see is poop in comparison. To many outdoor growers trying to pass off their shit as meds. Its pathetic to me.
There's a reason why they don't grow wine indoors.

Indoor weed will never have the taste complexities that outdoor will have. You're never going to get the sun or the weather or the terpenes and extra resin that an outdoor plant will produce to protect itself from the hostile environment. You're also not going to get the smooth, hydro-chemical-nute-free smoke of an outdoor girl. A greenhouse, organic soil grow comes DAMN close though.

If you take the best outdoor grower and the best indoor grower in the world, and you give them both clones of the same plant, the outdoor will be superior. You just can't duplicate a proper outdoor grow indoors. I totally agree with you: most outdoor growers make "poop" weed, because they are usually trying to cash-crop.

The reason why indoor is usually of a better quality is because, in general, indoor growers care more. It's not the process, it's the people.
 

personal lux

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Hahahahahaha. You got so mad look how much you had to type to try and cut me down.

The fact is your a new member who likely has no experience.
 

personal lux

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There's a reason why they don't grow wine indoors.

Indoor weed will never have the taste complexities that outdoor will have. You're never going to get the sun or the weather or the terpenes and extra resin that an outdoor plant will produce to protect itself from the hostile environment. You're also not going to get the smooth, hydro-chemical-nute-free smoke of an outdoor girl. A greenhouse, organic soil grow comes DAMN close though.

If you take the best outdoor grower and the best indoor grower in the world, and you give them both clones of the same plant, the outdoor will be superior. You just can't duplicate a proper outdoor grow indoors. I totally agree with you: most outdoor growers make "poop" weed, because they are usually trying to cash-crop.

The reason why indoor is usually of a better quality is because, in general, indoor growers care more. It's not the process, it's the people.
Thats a good reply there. And i agree to an extent. but i still find that outdoor on its own cant compare in potency to a plant that has its limiting factors peaked. Take a look into those.
 
Hahahahahaha. You got so mad look how much you had to type to try and cut me down.

The fact is your a new member who likely has no experience.
I'm not mad at all. What would I have to be mad about? You're the one typing in all caps and hurling insults.

I'm attempting to present my point in a concise and legible manner. Which is hard to do when posting on a forum and talking about this subject. I attempted to make my post as short and sweet as possible.

And now you turn to my perceived lack of experience to try and undercut any points that I made.

You're not having a discussion. You're not having a debate. You're acting like a child.
"MY WAY IS RIGHT CUZ I SAID ITS RIGHT AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS STUPID" that is not how you have a discussion.

Like I said i'm done responding. Go ahead and reply when you want to have a discussion instead of hurling insults and having a pissing contest.
 
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