Original Sensible Seed Company.

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Pandamoanius

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Dishonest Original Sensible Seed Company.

My experience with this company happened a few days ago and ended with me being banned from another forum for posting the messages they sent me, which contained the reasons that made me believe they are untrustworthy.


OSSC decided to start a test grow thread on the forum I'm normally apart of. They created rules so that members would know if they qualified to be involved. The qualifications were that you be an experienced grower on that forum for a certain amount of months, possess atleast 50 likes, and are one of the first 10 people to post about their intent to be involved with that thread. Even if it is true that they are having more test grows, then why didn't they go threw with this test grow as planned and allow the late commers to wait for future test grows? I mean being able to trust a seed company to follow through with their word is a big deal when you consider that they might screw you out of hundreds of dollars recently spent on seeds.

Once there were 10 members posting I was sure I would be in the test grow as I was the 6th grower to post, have more than 50 likes and had a completed grow logged on that forum. All of the rules were plain to see and understandable.

The problem occurred when Original Sensible Seed Company made the decision to choose members that posted later on and told a few of the first 10 to post that they would be given other opportunities later on with other test grows OSSC would have going on down the road.

While I know technically there wasn't anything lost except the time I put into posting in their thread after finding pictures of my last grow (that took me about an hour to do since they were posted throughout The Vaults axt comparative), and investing my excitement due to the fact that I believed they would keep to their word and I would get to be involved. I still feel I should tell people of this dishonest business practice they believe to be okay.

After finding out what they had decided to do, I knew I had to let everyone, that might be purchasing anything from them that they might be let down by other dishonest business practices associated with seed companies. Things like selling expired seed stock, or replacing real breeders seeds with their own creations. After all if they are willing to be dishonest to possible customers for any reason at all, then why wouldn't they be willing to continue to be dishonest.

In summation to what I previously stated. How can anyone trust a seed company that is willing to be dishonest with possible future customers? If they are willing to falsely advertise so blatantly, then maybe they would be the type of company to sell old stock that is no longer viable or replace actual breeder seeds with their own creations. I'm not saying this is what they do. I have no idea how dishonest they are willing to be, but do know they are willing to be dishonest and falsely advertise.

I have screen shots of everything that has taken place including their infantile attempt to upset me further by stating that I had probably killed all of my previous tester seeds given to me by The Vault.

Here's a pic of my Northwest Exclusive Genetics Hammer of the Gods still in veg. As well as a canopy shot that includes my Hog, an ogk auto, Biodiesel mass auto, cherry bomb auto, 2 sweet tooth autos, a blueberry fem, and a white widow x big bud fem.
 

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We Can Make Sandwiches

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So New member.. they are dishonest and shady because you didnt get chosen for the test grow?

Could it have been a case of 'this guy isnt as experienced as we would like to be testing future products'? (Idk wtf was being tested or watever)

And you bashed them and slandered them because you wernt chosen..

You should of chalked it up as a loss (of one hr of your time) and went on with your day instead of the tantrum that ensued and still is now on RIU?

What forum?

Wanna get all my facts straight..This was written like a short story soo i say 4/10
it lacked key info.

Will the drama continue?..will he get to test anything? Will it ever end?

Find out
next post

Edit: ghheeez got enough tags on this thread lel.
 

Repr

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I think it would be completely counterproductive for any seed company to send expired seeds (or immature seeds for that matter).
Seed companies who run their business right IMO should work with a reasoning of permanent clientele.
A seed bank customer is almost never a one time customer. If the customer is happy he will go back to get the seeds there next cycle. Sending bad seeds is damaging to the business. As any unhappy customer. Its just not worth it.
 

Pandamoanius

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So New member.. they are dishonest and shady because you didnt get chosen for the test grow?

Could it have been a case of 'this guy isnt as experienced as we would like to be testing future products'? (Idk wtf was being tested or watever)

And you bashed them and slandered them because you wernt chosen..

You should of chalked it up as a loss (of one hr of your time) and went on with your day instead of the tantrum that ensued and still is now on RIU?

What forum?

Wanna get all my facts straight..This was written like a short story soo i say 4/10
it lacked key info.

Will the drama continue?..will he get to test anything? Will it ever end?

Find out
next post
No I didn't bash anyone I only stated everything as it was, it can still be seen there minus my threads that contained my screenshots. One of their later replies did include an excuse that stated I was not chosen specifically due to others having more experience than me but I happened upon an individual that goes by the handle tadow who was having issues in germination around the same time this took place and is now involved with that test grow. I stated that if they are willing to be even a little dishonest they could be willing to be very dishonest because that is my experience with dishonest individuals. I'm not intending this to do anything other than inform others about a dishonest business. Honestly I'm not sure what I'm allowed to say here since I posted every last detail on the other forum this took place on and was banned because It took place in private messages that I took screen shots of it all and posted.
 

Pandamoanius

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I think it would be completely counterproductive for any seed company to send expired seeds (or immature seeds for that matter).
Seed companies who run their business right IMO should work with a reasoning of permanent clientele.
A seed bank customer is almost never a one time customer. If the customer is happy he will go back to get the seeds there next cycle. Sending bad seeds is damaging to the business. As any unhappy customer. Its just not worth it.
I agree that it would be counterproductive for a seed company to send expired seeds but I still read reports of it happening and have read them as recently as this past week or so. As for exchanging seeds, maybe it's for their own breeding practices since they also have their own strains for sale.
 

Pandamoanius

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So New member.. they are dishonest and shady because you didnt get chosen for the test grow?

Could it have been a case of 'this guy isnt as experienced as we would like to be testing future products'? (Idk wtf was being tested or watever)

And you bashed them and slandered them because you wernt chosen..

You should of chalked it up as a loss (of one hr of your time) and went on with your day instead of the tantrum that ensued and still is now on RIU?

What forum?

Wanna get all my facts straight..This was written like a short story soo i say 4/10
it lacked key info.

Will the drama continue?..will he get to test anything? Will it ever end?

Find out
next post

Edit: ghheeez got enough tags on this thread lel.
Also I don't believe I "should just chalk it up to a loss" if it saves even 1 person from being screwed over by a dishonest business. It's true that I didn't lose any money, Instead I lost any trust or respect I could have for Original Sensible Seed Company.
 

kmog33

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No I didn't bash anyone I only stated everything as it was, it can still be seen there minus my threads that contained my screenshots. One of their later replies did include an excuse that stated I was not chosen specifically due to others having more experience than me but I happened upon an individual that goes by the handle tadow who was having issues in germination around the same time this took place and is now involved with that test grow. I stated that if they are willing to be even a little dishonest they could be willing to be very dishonest because that is my experience with dishonest individuals. I'm not intending this to do anything other than inform others about a dishonest business. Honestly I'm not sure what I'm allowed to say here since I posted every last detail on the other forum this took place on and was banned because It took place in private messages that I took screen shots of it all and posted.
I'm really in agreement with the above. From your pictures, as a breeder, I would use someone else to test as well. No offense, it's just they need their testers to show off what their strains can do. And part of that is a clean looking/running setup. 1 grow journal also won't usually be enough evidence you can grow to most people. And 50 posts doesn't give you the type of rep or recognition as being on a site for years and having a lot of grows under your belt.

Got any pictures of your plants at harvest from your last run? Do they look anything like this?

Cuz that's is baseline what they're looking for. I currently test for bulldog seeds, advanced female seeds, feminized seeds and a new German breeder called yekke seeds. I know they asked for testers and evidence you could grow at the same time, and they used some of the people that wanted in, and turned down others based on experience and evidence of results.

Sorry you weren't picked, but you really didn't lose anything except for free beans out of this. And you've stated you don't like the Seedbank now so why does is matter?


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Pandamoanius

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[QUOTE="Pandamoanius, post: 12285359, member: 901432"

if it saves even 1 person from being screwed over by a dishonest business. It's true that I didn't lose any money, Instead I lost any trust or respect I could have for Original Sensible Seed Company.
Honestly, if you're hoping to dissuade people from using them, I hardly hear them mentioned at all on RIU. Perhaps the loss of 'trust ir respect' will be a blessing in disguise, as you find better banks.[/QUOTE]
Oh I will be posting in other places and back on GC once I get unbanned in the next 2 weeks. This wont only be seen by members here. It will be seen by anyone searching about Original Sensible Seed Company.
 

Amos Otis

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Also I don't believe I "should just chalk it up to a loss" if it saves even 1 person from being screwed over by a dishonest business. It's true that I didn't lose any money, Instead I lost any trust or respect I could have for Original Sensible Seed Company.

Honestly, if you're hoping to dissuade people from using them, I hardly hear them mentioned at all on RIU. Perhaps the loss of 'trust or respect' will be a blessing in disguise, as you find better banks.
 

Pandamoanius

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I'm really in agreement with the above. From your pictures, as a breeder, I would use someone else to test as well. No offense, it's just they need their testers to show off what their strains can do. And part of that is a clean looking/running setup. 1 grow journal also won't usually be enough evidence you can grow to most people. And 50 posts doesn't give you the type of rep or recognition as being on a site for years and having a lot of grows under your belt.

Got any pictures of your plants at harvest from your last run? Do they look anything like this?

Cuz that's is baseline what they're looking for. I currently test for bulldog seeds, advanced female seeds, feminized seeds and a new German breeder called yekke seeds. I know they asked for testers and evidence you could grow at the same time, and they used some of the people that wanted in, and turned down others based on experience and evidence of results.

Sorry you weren't picked, but you really didn't lose anything except for free beans out of this. And you've stated you don't like the Seedbank now so why does is matter?


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While I don't mind not being chosen for whatever reason. They clearly stated who would be chosen and why and went directly against that. I'm not sure why you decided to show me your grow. Nice plants though. I would normally have some nugs to show as well but have only recently started back up. It's okay for anyone to still like this company, I'm only sharing an experience.
 

We Can Make Sandwiches

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I dont need screenshots i need answers?

What Forum? Id avoid posting any more screenshots..this is abunch of drama over not getting free testers? Trust bro chalk it up as a loss. Your gona gain nothing from this in the end.

As many stated who uses OSSC when there is way better places to access beans?
 

Pandamoanius

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I dont need screenshots i need answers?

What Forum? Id avoid posting any more screenshots..this is abunch of drama over not getting free testers? Trust bro chalk it up as a loss. Your gona gain nothing from this in the end.

As many stated who uses OSSC when there is way better places to access beans?
As I said, it isn't about what they were dishonest about. It's about what they could be dishonest about in the future. I have done nothing but report the facts as they are. I'm not sure if this is okay but this took place on Grasscity.
 

kmog33

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While I don't mind not being chosen for whatever reason. They clearly stated who would be chosen and why and went directly against that. I'm not sure why you decided to show me your grow. Nice plants though. I would normally have some nugs to show as well but have only recently started back up. It's okay for anyone to still like this company, I'm only sharing an experience.
I showed you an example of a grow that seed bank use as testers. Your picture show a mess of several different pots and plants of every size. It's just not very reassuring to a breeder when that's the picture you chose to post here. Also, all of my pictures are libel that, not like I got lucky for that one lol which is another thing these seed companies are looking for.

I understand your frustration with it saying one thing and doing another. But I think you stated that ossc posted that they did and why. I don't know anything about it so I can't say whether they were totally out of line or not. what forum was this? I will say that they definitely will not use you in the future. And after posting like this on another forum you may be screwing up your luck with any others as well

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to point out what I see going on here.


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