Organic Tests and Runs - Gage and Bodhi

Hi All,

So I am running and have completed some test runs for Gage and Bodhi, both fantastic breeders that bring the fire consistently. A very nice test schedule for the rest of the year, and some fantastic results so far. Been mostly working with Gage gear, but I got a few of B's DeadlyG crosses to test too. Yeah I know, they are not being released and there are some serious issues, but I am going to attempt taming them anyway.

I also have some purchased packs and more on the way so it is going to get pretty stinky around here.

But it will be all Gage and Bodhi, all the time.

I use fully organic methods only. Living Organic Soil, mostly indoors but a beast outdoor lady every now and then doesn't hurt. I recently learned that using Bokashi etc is called 'Pro-biotic gardening' so I do that too lol.

I am posting up the tests here in the organics section because, well, it is civilized. And secondly, Gage and Bodhi both use solid, sustainable organic practices in their breeding, hence all their genetics really shine in a dirt rig.

Anyhow, some bud-porn to get things going:

Salvador x Mendo Montage









OS Afghan Haze x PCK







Lemon Thai x Freedom Baby





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Dream Beaver







Super Blue Dream x Mendo Ace






That is quite a bit to start with lol...

Golden Gage a few weeks ago, they are near done now and STINK...

Hell yeah Hamish! Looking freaking awesome! I'm a huge Bodhi fan. I didn't hear about the Deadly G issues! So no deadly G crosses?! I'm so bummed! Can you recommend any must have strains from GGG? I hear a lot of good reviews about their genetics. Just germed a few Grape Stomper OG's, but I've never ran any of theirs previously.

Can't want to see the show!

Peace,
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Looking great MH!

Those be some beautiful bud shots, MH! Love the purples!

Thanks for the kind words fellas Looking forward to sharing with and learning from whomever pops by!

Pattahabi said:

Hell yeah Hamish! Looking freaking awesome! I'm a huge Bodhi fan. I didn't hear about the Deadly G issues! So no deadly G crosses?! I'm so bummed! Can you recommend any must have strains from GGG? I hear a lot of good reviews about their genetics. Just germed a few Grape Stomper OG's, but I've never ran any of theirs previously.

Can't want to see the show!

Peace,
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B felt the DeadlyG was too dominant, leading to too many samey-tasting and looking crosses. And they are not very stable from seed at all, pretty much all of them show some degree of intersexing from mild to severe, balls to bananas.
I am going to go the proper route and mother some Dank Sinatra Remix, then flower clones and hopefully this stabilizes things (par for the course with OG). I was looking for a bit of a challenge, and this is perfect, seeing as I will be prepared for possible disaster nothing too bad can happen aside from me learning some stuff.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS!!! B is going to unleash the old '88G13HP daddy resposible for the ORIGINAL Dank Sinatra, Tranquil Elephantizer, Clusterfunk, etc. So a true legend returns. This is MUCH better news than a DeadlyG drop! Keep your ear to the ground, most of them are going to be REALLY limited, two seed mothers per type. Only the Clusterfunk is going into a fat production far as I recall. But the rest, two mums each...

I also heard some last Appy crosses went into testing. HELL YEAH!

So not to worry, Bodhi is going to be dropping some real bombs

As far as recommending Gage goes, dude I LOVE The Cornerstone. I don't have bud pics but I have a girl in flower so I can show you soon enough. Paint-stripper Diesel DANK. And for some reason people haven't really caught on to it so it is available most of the time. The last drop sold out really fast, every place it dropped. If that wasn't the case, this Golden Gage is REALLY REALLY REALLY impressing me. Sampled an early bud, and it tasted like it had a 4 week cure after 5 days drying. And it was popcorn...









I think the GS OG is going to be pretty badass, if you like it try something with a Mendo daddy next, they always bring the purples and pinks and super frost and grape soda flavors.

Yes! More bud porn and some great news on Bodhi! I was really hoping to see some G13 crosses from him. I'll definitely settle for the old dank sinatra daddy!

If you hear of these dropping Please keep me in the loop! I'm going to be eyeing some more GGG gear also!

Thanks Hamish!
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Pattahabi said:

Yes! More bud porn and some great news on Bodhi! I was really hoping to see some G13 crosses from him. I'll definitely settle for the old dank sinatra daddy!

If you hear of these dropping Please keep me in the loop! I'm going to be eyeing some more GGG gear also!

Thanks Hamish!
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Far as Bodhi goes, I am still trying to figure out how the hell the loop works LOL... I seem to always JUST miss stuff with him. I am circling closer, like a Great White hungry for tuna...

Hope you don't mind me asking, but what nutrient and supplement lineup do you use? You seem to get really nice resin production on every strain you run.

gabechihua said:

Hope you don't mind me asking, but what nutrient and supplement lineup do you use? You seem to get really nice resin production on every strain you run.

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Not a problem at all mate, I was hoping for this question soon

I use absolutely no bottled products. My water is either totally pure rain water, or the occasional Actively Aerated Compost Tea, there are a few EXCELLENT threads on the topic here in the organics section, particularly the 'Total Noob Using Teas' thread kicks ass.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/total-noob-using-teas-and-i-am-a-believer.676040/page-237#post-10616793

My focus over the last few runs has rested on building my soil structure and maximizing humic material, along with developing a healthy cannabis-specific micro-herd. The principle I use for my soil has earned the name 'Living Organic Soil' and involves completely ignoring and forgetting about NPK, PPM, pH and the whole shebang that made you buy all your expensive testing equipment. It is based on methods that pre-date Christianity, so it is a movement forwards by moving backwards.

So how it is done, is the soil is recycled and never thrown away. The plant tells the soil what it needs, the soil responds and gives EXACTLY that. This work is done by beneficial micro-organisms, so in a Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) garden, the focus is on taking care of the life within the soil, as opposed to adding a witches' brew roughly aimed at a plant's requirements.

It is an incredible amount of stuff to go through if one is interested, but it truly is fascinating stuff! But mostly, regardless of the volumes of information on true organic methods, the big thing about it is thinking in a different way.

I am looking forward to many conversations on the topic, I am a total believer. The best introduction to ROLS one can have is right here on RIU. It is a thread of EPIC proportions, but if you take your time, read ALL the referenced links and download the .pdf files and make time for those, you will find your expenses dropping, yields increasing, pests subsiding, the advantages are endless.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/so-who-here-is-growing-in-true-organic-living-soil.583341/

Rrog is the man. Intensely educated and infinitely patient.

BUT I have to say this: Not hard getting trich coverage like that if you grow Bodhi or Gage. They bring the fire. Each plant has been a total frost-monster. What you are looking at is damn fine Californian DANK. I will go get a pic of a Golden Gage I am stressing on purpose. She is as sticky and shiny as the rest of them. Little one gal pot, under-watered, over-watered, shoved in a corner for a while then right under the lamp, then in front of the fan till she got wind-burn. Not a single banana or ball in sight, and trich coverage like you won't believe.

Yeah, starting with quality genetics definitely doesn't hurt, but the results you're getting by using just a simple compost tea and ignoring all the hyped up bottled supplements and bloom boosters are really quite nice. Your plants look better than most on this site who are probably being fed a full regimen of all the "good" stuff designed to make your plants happy. Most of the growers trying that tactic just end up with nute burn and a stressed out plant that really isn't feeling it. Personally I try to push my plants a little harder than what you do, but far less than allot of growers. I'll add some myco to the soil and use bottled organic fertilizers in conjuction with a simple bat guano tea and I use Bud Candy on top of that, but I try to keep it simple and mostly just focus on giving my plant alot of P during bloom to boost yields a little. You are definitely right though focusing on making the soil a living environment so your roots are happy is definitely key. I've actually considered adding some Voodoo Juice to my lineup, as it looks like a quality product that really adds life to your soil and it gets good reviews, but the price has always turned me away. I'll probably add it my lineup someday, but for now I'll just stick with what's been working.

You can make everything you need available in the soil and never need a bottle again Guys like StOw here are really jacked up when it comes to replacing amendments with better 'living' alternatives, so if there is anything you would like to do away with just shout, we will LOVE helping you ditch the bottles if ever you feel like it.

Many ways to go about things, but few things beat having all the power to care for your ladies in your own hands

About the PK boost for upping yields, I found it does kinda work, but the best results I got was from upping lumen output. More light - More bud! I have a theory that you can only supply SUFFICIENT nutrient, there is no way to force a plant to absorb more than it is capable, so I find the whole PK boost thing a worthy topic for discussion. Can probably fill a few pages just with that one.

Oh my gods... Made some concentrate off the Salvador x Mendo Montage. It is incredible. I am near speechless. Some wax and shatter:





Insanely dank, spicy with a strong kick of grape soda, it keeps getting more intense and evolving for about a minute after a hit. Just plain fabulous.

Mmmm...that shiz looks NICE, MH!

I was searching around on Youtube to see if I could find a video with a good compost tea recipe, and found a couple nice ones, but I found this one video which was basically just an ad for this stuff called Boogie Brew. Looks like a pretty nice product with lots of good stuff for your soil. Think I might give this stuff a go.

Our patent-pending recipe of fermented ‘Veeganic’ ingredients: Premium biodynamic humus, High-Chitinase Quality Worm Castings, Rock Phosphate, Langbeneite, Kelp,Soy & Alfalfa Meals, North Atlantic Kelp Extract, Nutritional Yeast, Organic Trace Sea Minerals & Volcanic Rock Powder, Humic Acid, (95% purity), from Leonardite Shale, Organic Evaporated Cane Juice Crystals.

Compost Tea is made ONLY one way. The other name for it is a 'nutrient cycling tea'.
It contains water, molasses, and compost, nothing more. One gallon, two tbs and one cup respectively, bubble for 24 to 48 hours.

What is laid out above is a 'Nutrient Tea' an altogether different and more dangerous beast.

The goal in compost tea is microbial extraction and multiplication, not to supply a set of single elements.

The nute teaabove has little in the order of good food stock for microbes. It contains Kelp, which inhibits microbial multiplication for at least 24 hours. Soy has no business in a soil mix, nor a tea, high human specific hormone levels unless fermented to ToFu.

So to repeat, take one gal water, add one cup compost or EWC, two to four tbs Blackstrap Molasses, bubble for 24 to 48 hours. Feed full power or dilute half it will kick ass.

2days after an AACT things just explode.

You can also go the Gro-Kashi route. Smaller more specialized micro herd, but I can tell you soil with a little Bokashi gives phenomenal performance. My first run using probiotics had me convinced already. Amazing stuff.

MH you are a god lol your buds look great! how often can you water with a compost tea? do you need to strain it all? thanks mate! looking to make a tea for my sprouts soon and maybe ones in flower
Im looking to maybe go organic or some organic but theres so many recipes and things to brew and use and foliar every day it seems like. I also dont wanna lose a whole lot of yield either. thoughts or tips? I might try super soil or Coot's soil recipe.

earthling420 said:

MH you are a god lol your buds look great! how often can you water with a compost tea? do you need to strain it all? thanks mate! looking to make a tea for my sprouts soon and maybe ones in flower
Im looking to maybe go organic or some organic but theres so many recipes and things to brew and use and foliar every day it seems like. I also dont wanna lose a whole lot of yield either. thoughts or tips? I might try super soil or Coot's soil recipe.

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LOL thanks mate Well talk about the MASTER! Coot's mix, RIGHT ON!!

I would love to encourage you to make it and let it cook, then do a run. Coot's soil will take you from seed to end flower and you will probably only need to water.
A good soil is 99 percent of it all. Gascanastan likes to use SST or Seedling Sprout Tea during flower, once a week is plenty from week 4. Coot is also a huge fan.

Even in not so good mixes, a tea per week is a LOT. One every 14 days is still plenty but makes for an easy routine. I only foliar feed if I had to spray chilli or canola for bugs, just to get the phyllosphere back on track.

If you spend time on a great soil, there is very little else your ladies can need aside from a good pest management system