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kowski

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Harmless to humans -- except that you want to avoid breathing it into your lungs. Apparently the same small sharp edges that often tear up bugs insides when they eat the DE can do damage to our lungs.
Seems to be a controversy on the dangers of DE. For example, this site says perfectly safe:
https://www.earthworkshealth.com/Diatomaceous-Earth-FAQ.php

On the other hand, i've read that some dangers of DE are real. I've also heard that some people eat it as a dietary supplement. Not me. I'd rather enchiladas.
 

Humanrob

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Seems to be a controversy on the dangers of DE. For example, this site says perfectly safe:
https://www.earthworkshealth.com/Diatomaceous-Earth-FAQ.php

On the other hand, i've read that some dangers of DE are real. I've also heard that some people eat it as a dietary supplement. Not me. I'd rather enchiladas.
Interesting, read the info on that link, and I hope that's true. :) I got my info from old school farmers, perhaps its inaccurate or outdated... who knows. It's just been what people tell each other for a long time.
 

WV: Jetson

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More pics! Camping a couple of weekends ago on the N. Umpqua

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and came home to a nice collection of lovely ladies. First up: bag

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Donkey Kong

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and Cindy's Blue Cheese

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I screwed up with the Swiss Strawberry. She is the plant that had been "flowering" all along and the buds had been packing on weight and girth. The worms got the better off me. I thought I had been getting most of them. I hadn't. I decided to cut her down: the pistils were browning - she was looking good. Until I started trimming the buds and they were falling apart in my hands from rot and worm damage. The pistils had browned 'cause they were rotten, not because the were ripe. I kept the few buds I trimmed (maybe, just maybe) flipped them last night and bug shit and I don't know what had fallen out of 'em. Sad face, into the compost, circle of life, learning curve, blah, blah, blah... I still have three fine, worm free plants, so I'll be just fine. But man that SS smelled so good, all summer long.
 

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Humanrob

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Learn something new every day.... For some reason I thought bud worms were a CA problem, you are the first person in Oregon that I have heard of hit by them, although in retrospect I'm sure there were others and I missed it.

The rest of your girls are looking great :)
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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More pics! Camping a couple of weekends ago on the N. Umpqua

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and came home to a nice collection of lovely ladies. First up: bag

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Donkey Kong

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and Cindy's Blue Cheese

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I screwed up with the Swiss Strawberry. She is the plant that had been "flowering" all along and the buds had been packing on weight and girth. The worms got the better off me. I thought I had been getting most of them. I hadn't. I decided to cut her down: the pistils were browning - she was looking good. Until I started trimming the buds and they were falling apart in my hands from rot and worm damage. The pistils had browned 'cause they were rotten, not because the were ripe. I kept the few buds I trimmed (maybe, just maybe) flipped them last night and bug shit and I don't know what had fallen out of 'em. Sad face, into the compost, circle of life, learning curve, blah, blah, blah... I still have three fine, worm free plants, so I'll be just fine. But man that SS smelled so good, all summer long.
That stinks. Nice pictures.
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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Learn something new every day.... For some reason I thought bud worms were a CA problem, you are the first person in Oregon that I have heard of hit by them, although in retrospect I'm sure there were others and I missed it.
I'm in NW Florida, and had worms on my BST2's a couple weeks ago, just as they were starting to bloom. Only the second time I have ever had to deal with them though. I've been hitting them with neem once a week since. Won't be able to do much longer. Unless I want Neem flavored buds.
 

slow drawl

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More pics! Camping a couple of weekends ago on the N. Umpqua

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and came home to a nice collection of lovely ladies. First up: bag

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Donkey Kong

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and Cindy's Blue Cheese

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I screwed up with the Swiss Strawberry. She is the plant that had been "flowering" all along and the buds had been packing on weight and girth. The worms got the better off me. I thought I had been getting most of them. I hadn't. I decided to cut her down: the pistils were browning - she was looking good. Until I started trimming the buds and they were falling apart in my hands from rot and worm damage. The pistils had browned 'cause they were rotten, not because the were ripe. I kept the few buds I trimmed (maybe, just maybe) flipped them last night and bug shit and I don't know what had fallen out of 'em. Sad face, into the compost, circle of life, learning curve, blah, blah, blah... I still have three fine, worm free plants, so I'll be just fine. But man that SS smelled so good, all summer long.
Learn something new every day.... For some reason I thought bud worms were a CA problem, you are the first person in Oregon that I have heard of hit by them, although in retrospect I'm sure there were others and I missed it.

The rest of your girls are looking great :)
That sucks man its a battle with the bugs and sometimes they win. Nice pics of the rest..the girls look healthy.
BT and neem oil are your friend you guys, I try to spray once a week. If you have cabbage moths(the white ones) they are laying eggs on most everything. I get my granddaughters dollar tree butterfly nets out and take full on aggression at these fukers. They were hard on the veggies this summer, plus there are those that come out at night. Not to much of a problem with weed that is until they start to flower... I spray through the season until about the 3rd week. Then I build a portable GH or a hoop house over them with row crop cover ends and try to seal it up good, keeps the moths out. Some strains they care nothing about, others look out. I think it was 4 seasons ago I grew a BBK , Hindu Kush and a couple Purple Mister Nice plants. Had no issues with the kush's whatsoever, they tore me up with the PMN.
I hate moths...it's a good thing I'm an anal fuker when it comes to my girls.
 

WV: Jetson

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I had worms last year too, much later in the season, and it was only 2 or 3. I wonder if the pheromone traps they use for pantry moths would work?
So here in Corvallis, outdoor plants went into flowering about 10 days ago. How are yours doing? Flowering? When did it start?
I'm over in Albany. I'd say they started about 10 - 12 days ago. I think they are looking pretty good, except I'm now down to two! Ms Donkey Kong is actually Sir DK. Dang it!

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I feel like a real knuckle head: I kept looking up, marveling at his size, when I should have been staring straight ahead... I guess I'm a pollen chucker now. Any tips will be greatly appreciated! Sorry @Humanrob I'll have no taste to share
 

Humanrob

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Maybe this is a particularly bad worm season... I was doing a trim yesterday and noticed a clump of leaves stuck together on the Bruce Banner #3. When I peeled it open inside were a couple of tiny worms wriggling around. Really small little things. I'll be spraying again this morning, this time with BT for sure.

@WV: Jetson , sorry to hear about your Mr. Kong. The rest march on...
 

Humanrob

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Some strains they care nothing about, others look out. I think it was 4 seasons ago I grew a BBK , Hindu Kush and a couple Purple Mister Nice plants. Had no issues with the kush's whatsoever, they tore me up with the PMN.
That is true for many things, from PM to bugs. I've got 9 plants and only one with worms (so far at least). In terms of healthy ecosystems, there are three factors: redundancy, diversity, and modularity. In sustainable organic food production, they follow these rules, and for growing cannabis we should apply them if we can.
 

Beavermike

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Just got back from a two week road trip and thought I'd post an update. Thank goodness for drip irrigation and no power outages! The monster is a sugar black rose cut. About 8 ft tall, several ft wide. It's been flowering for about two weeks. Starting to give off a sweet skunky smell. Smaller plant is oregon diesel. It's living up to its reputation of early flowering, been at it for 4 weeks or so. Tops and secondary nodes really starting to fill in. It's crazy how much it smells like blueberry muffins!

Fingers crossed, no bad bug problems so far. Have noticed a pretty healthy population of orb spiders. Maybe they are keeping the bad bugs in check.

All the other ladies are looking great! Next month and a half is important, good luck to everyone. @breadboy , those ladies need to go on a diet :)
 

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breadboy

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Just got back from a two week road trip and thought I'd post an update. Thank goodness for drip irrigation and no power outages! The monster is a sugar black rose cut. About 8 ft tall, several ft wide. It's been flowering for about two weeks. Starting to give off a sweet skunky smell. Smaller plant is oregon diesel. It's living up to its reputation of early flowering, been at it for 4 weeks or so. Tops and secondary nodes really starting to fill in. It's crazy how much it smells like blueberry muffins!

Fingers crossed, no bad bug problems so far. Have noticed a pretty healthy population of orb spiders. Maybe they are keeping the bad bugs in check.

All the other ladies are looking great! Next month and a half is important, good luck to everyone. @breadboy , those ladies need to go on a diet :)
Shit bro, I know exactly what you're talking about, I did an indoor run just prior to this outdoor season, and my Oregon Diesels (gotta love the early finishers when you're having to bankroll a plants photosynthesis with HID lights) smelled so much like blueberry muffins at one point, I'd trip on that scent every time I was around it. Not a bad smell to have permeate my entire house, as well as all my girls clothing...
While my girl likes dank, she teaches at a private school in Ashland, and they didn't like that someone had overheard a couple students saying
"Miss #!?$% lives at the dank factory!" on account of her stanky dank clothes I'm assuming.
Thank god that hippie town is so chill, I imagine most schools in most towns, woulda canned her, or at least demanded a ua.
So no more big indoor runs inside the house for me:( Can't really complain though, I do still get to go at the outdoor season full dangle lol.
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Larry {the} Gardener

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We had a small taste of Gorge wind the other day, found one of my biggest girls leaning over afterwards. I propped her back up, but I'll need to start seriously securing them, that little bit of wind was a gentle reminder of what's to come.

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I had a thunderstorm come through on Tuesday that laid some of my taller ones over. They don't have any weight on them yet, so I just pulled them out of the nearby trees and picked the leaves and sticks out. But two of them are males. They won't be around that much longer.
 

thespaceman937

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Shit bro, I know exactly what you're talking about, I did an indoor run just prior to this outdoor season, and my Oregon Diesels (gotta love the early finishers when you're having to bankroll a plants photosynthesis with HID lights) smelled so much like blueberry muffins at one point, I'd trip on that scent every time I was around it. Not a bad smell to have permeate my entire house, as well as all my girls clothing...
While my girl likes dank, she teaches at a private school in Ashland, and they didn't like that someone had overheard a couple students saying
"Miss #!?$% lives at the dank factory!" on account of her stanky dank clothes I'm assuming.
Thank god that hippie town is so chill, I imagine most schools in most towns, woulda canned her, or at least demanded a ua.
So no more big indoor runs inside the house for me:( Can't really complain though, I do still get to go at the outdoor season full dangle lol.
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Have you tried a carbon filter?
 

WV: Jetson

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If I'm a successful pollinator I'll end up with Kong's Bag and either Cindy's Blue Donkey or Donkey Cheese. I also brought in some hired help

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The pay scale is light: all the bugs you can eat! I also noticed a yellow jacket flying around the remaining buds on my Swiss Strawberry. I assumed (and am hoping very much so) that she was on caterpillar patrol. Up the plant and back down again: she was looking for something! First time I can ever recall being happy to see a yellow jacket...
 
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