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Joe Buddens

Joe Buddens

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drsaltzman said:
Nice buds Blazin Duck.

The weather forecast this week is cloudy, cool and showery.
Not gonna get much more out of her this week, so having friends over for a chop and trim party tonight.

This was originally a bonsai experiment. Had her wrapped around a pencil in a pint cup back in June. Wasn't looking too good so I put her in a spare pot and stuck her outside.
She liked it much better.

The car gives it some scale:

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The King Cola:

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Would have liked an extra couple weeks of full sun, but hey, its Oregon in October.

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I want this strain!
It looks like it did amazing.
 
BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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Joe Buddens said:
I’m testing out curing with the 62% humidity packs, I still open the bucket daily, and I cure all of the same strain together in buckets with a sealed lid.. My thought process is that I won’t have to worry about too much moister. And it will allow an even, stable, dry, throughout the process. (Each plant gets its own bucket)
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I was always under the impression that the rise and fall of moisture while burping allowed the chlorophyll to break down and release properly. I don't know the science behind it but it makes perfect sense in my head.

Kinda like the tempering of metal in the smithing process. Heat, beat, cool. Rinse repeat. To me it seems like the pack would keep it too constant in there and add some kind of kink in the process.

I usually add my 62% packs after a month.
 
Joe Buddens

Joe Buddens

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BlazinDucks said:
I was always under the impression that the rise and fall of moisture while burping allowed the chlorophyll to break down and release properly. I don't know the science behind it but it makes perfect sense in my head.

Kinda like the tempering of metal in the smithing process. Heat, beat, cool. Rinse repeat. To me it seems like the pack would keep it too constant in there and add some kind of kink in the process.

I usually add my 62% packs after a month.
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Your approach sounds logical to me, its what we've all been come accustomed to. However, all the research, reading, thinking i have done have inspired me to try a different method. from what I've gathered, the break down of chlorophyll and the increase of potency, and aroma is what we are all after. In my opinion, in the absence of light, water, CO2, ( which is why its in a solid black sealed bucket) chlorophyll is going to break down no matter what. My logic is that if i deprive the light, water, and CO2, then the process of breaking down chlorophyll is a given. from all my research, the act of maintaining the humidity at the appropriate recommended level to maintain longevity and potency, will allow the chlorophyll to break down at a slower rate; therefor giving it a perfect cure. Also another very important part is making sure that those fluctuations in humidity wont cause too much moisture to allow it to mold, or too dry. As Barry White would say, too much of anything isn't good for you. So thats why i will periodically check, and burp the buckets for about the first 2 weeks to make none of that happens. I've been trying to replicate the look and smell of dispensary quality marijuana.
 
BlazinDucks

BlazinDucks

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Joe Buddens said:
Your approach sounds logical to me, its what we've all been come accustomed to. However, all the research, reading, thinking i have done have inspired me to try a different method. from what I've gathered, the break down of chlorophyll and the increase of potency, and aroma is what we are all after. In my opinion, in the absence of light, water, CO2, ( which is why its in a solid black sealed bucket) chlorophyll is going to break down no matter what. My logic is that if i deprive the light, water, and CO2, then the process of breaking down chlorophyll is a given. from all my research, the act of maintaining the humidity at the appropriate recommended level to maintain longevity and potency, will allow the chlorophyll to break down at a slower rate; therefor giving it a perfect cure. Also another very important part is making sure that those fluctuations in humidity wont cause too much moisture to allow it to mold, or too dry. As Barry White would say, too much of anything isn't good for you. So thats why i will periodically check, and burp the buckets for about the first 2 weeks to make none of that happens. I've been trying to replicate the look and smell of dispensary quality marijuana.
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All of that sounds legit to me. I'm in full agreement with you on trying to achieve the dispensary quality look, smell, taste, and burn.
 
SAMMYB913

SAMMYB913

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I'm looking to move to Oregon & start growing indoors & outdoors plus non-gmo heirloom, exotic & rare fruits, veggies, flowers etc.
Trying to find some info about the most efficient & popular systems run there, set up & operating cost & dealing w/ state regulations
any help would be appreciated.
 
SchmoeJoe

SchmoeJoe

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SAMMYB913 said:
I'm looking to move to Oregon & start growing indoors & outdoors plus non-gmo heirloom, exotic & rare fruits, veggies, flowers etc.
Trying to find some info about the most efficient & popular systems run there, set up & operating cost & dealing w/ state regulations
any help would be appreciated.
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Light dep greenhouses with supplemental lighting are the way to go. Best yield per area for cannabis and under OLCC regulation the definition of indoor is anything grown with lighting. Between the shrinking profit margin and the ability to get better yields and comparable, if not better, quality we're looking at anyone who stays competitive making the transition to greenhouses.

With the right set up you can pull three harvests without even having to get into the seasonal extension tricks to run the greenhouses through the winter. As far as fruits and vegetables look into Territorial Seed Company. They're a local seed company that specializes in heirloom and non-gmo seed stock. They have a test site that they use to grow out their new prospective stock that's in the foothills of the Cascades in a place where they get a slightly shorter and cooler season than the Willamette Valley so they can know for sure that their new stock will be good for anyone in the area.
 
SAMMYB913

SAMMYB913

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I was just watching some videos on Light dep greenhouses seems bad ass, I figured greenhouses would be the way to go , I have a complete seed collection for almost anything I could possible need. I would love a nice greenhouse full of buds but also thinking about just growing my 4 plants allowed per residence & growing food for personal use cause the last thing I want is the government up my ass w/ more & more regulations. I would love to organically grow all food & medication from a bunch of different plants to help others especially the poor & needy, if possible work w/ a clinic on treating patients & finding long overdue cures for many medical problems.
 
SchmoeJoe

SchmoeJoe

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graying.geek said:
Oh, I see. What they've been doing for 250M years. :lol:

Guess I was expecting to learn about some super secret process.
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The plants have been breeding on their own but when people get new strains they usually cull the males and this has cost is a lot of strains. At the very least when you get a new strain in seed form do an open pollination with all of the males and females to preserve as much of that particular strains genetic material as possible.
 
graying.geek

graying.geek

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SchmoeJoe said:
The plants have been breeding on their own but when people get new strains they usually cull the males and this has cost is a lot of strains. At the very least when you get a new strain in seed form do an open pollination with all of the males and females to preserve as much of that particular strains genetic material as possible.
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Yeah, I understand and appreciate the value of preserving diversity, but with our 4-plant limit for rec growers, what's a father to do?
 
SchmoeJoe

SchmoeJoe

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graying.geek said:
Yeah, I understand and appreciate the value of preserving diversity, but with our 4-plant limit for rec growers, what's a father to do?
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If at all possible try to network with someone with more options. I've seen some pretty incredible strains that don't exist anymore, at least as far as availability, because of it.
 
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