One man and his bush - 1 plant SCROG in Stealth Cab - Chocolate Berry

TheOrganic

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What is the plant on the left? I'm confused cause it looked like a MJ plant in air pot on first post and its not a MJ plant now.
But anyway sweet scrog first time Ive seen someone do it like that.
 

lilindian

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Cool beans. Thanks for the info bro. I think I'm gonna leave most of them on but I can think of a few plants (mainly the Sativas) that could use some better light pentration due to being blocked by huge fan leafs near the tops of them. + Rep for the detailed response.
No worries man, ur plan sounds about right. I remember the leaves on my super lemon haze.... huge in comparison to anything else ive grown! So yeh, trim back those sativa's a little if need be.

How's she doing? I forget which day you prune.
Yeh she's not toooooo shabby thanks, was looking a little bare a couple days ago after a trim on the weekend but has started to fill back up again. Covering about half the screen at the moment, i doubt she'll grow to the edges by the end of the month so i'm gona have to find another caretaker for her last 2 weeks of flower i think.

The schedule has gone down the drain, due to her size she's now drinking more and needs a feed more often than once a week. She also needs a quick trim twice a week now. Sticky traps are catching flies but leaves are still getting damaged, im sure by insects, so today i gave her a bit of silicon plus (meant to result in a stronger plant/leaves), Organic B (for stress) and Hesi Powerzyme (to break down wastes of cellulose in the medium, keeping it clean). So now i'm feeding her every 5ish days, and trimming whenever! A couple branches have broken off during mantainance, one or 2 heads of branches have broken off resulting in a topped branch, i think i have 2. Will take pictures of all tmrw for the update.

I wanna stay updated on this I'm probaby gonna steal this idea C:
Wait until the end.... might not even work!

What is the plant on the left? I'm confused cause it looked like a MJ plant in air pot on first post and its not a MJ plant now.
But anyway sweet scrog first time Ive seen someone do it like that.
Its a Polianthes Tuberosa, from Mexico. The seedling in the airpot was the chocolate berry, i transfered her from an airpot into a bucket, and the Tuberosa from a pot into an airpot. Yeh not many ppl do Scrogs this way, mainly cos its a mission and a half, i think its much easier training a plant under a screen than over a screen, but i was going for a specific look which i could only think of achieving this way.
 

donkeyshow

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Hey Iilindian, I have a plant that looks extremely similar to yours! I haven't been scrogging it but i tied down every branch so it stayed flat for about 3 weeks. When I switched it over to 12/12 on the 8th I undid all the tie downs and let it grow how it wants until I get a screen or something to scrog it with. Basically I had a very similar idea, you can see some pictures of it in my grow journal. I have never pruned it though, I was thinking about doing that today cause the bud sites below are getting virtually no light.
 

lilindian

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I can't think of any reason why it won't work.

Will this method increase the usual yield?
If so, will the extra yield be worth the extra effort?
That's what I'm wondering about.
I'm just worried how i'm gona handle her stretch. If i grow her in veg to the end of the screen, when she stretches, both horizontal and vertical branching will stretch, so she might start pushing up against the sides and stuff. As i said before, i've never attempted a Scrog before so this is all an experiment, after this grow i should have a much better idea of what i'm doing for next time round. Scrogs do yield a lot better than a plant left to grow naturally depending on the environment and conditions. I can't see why my method of scrogging would increase yields over normal methods, other than there should be a shit load more bud sites due to how i'm tying her down and pruning.

Hey Iilindian, I have a plant that looks extremely similar to yours! I haven't been scrogging it but i tied down every branch so it stayed flat for about 3 weeks. When I switched it over to 12/12 on the 8th I undid all the tie downs and let it grow how it wants until I get a screen or something to scrog it with. Basically I had a very similar idea, you can see some pictures of it in my grow journal. I have never pruned it though, I was thinking about doing that today cause the bud sites below are getting virtually no light.
Just had a quick peek, lookin good man, trim away, u want all the branches to grow to the same height, so tall ones should be bent over and out the way so the ones lower down can milk the light and catch up. If parts of ur plant aren't getting any light, either sort stuff out so these bud sites do get light, or remove the bud site all together. There's no point in letting the plant waste its energy down low making popcorn buds when it can put that energy into making massive cola's. Also if u untie all ur tie's, the plant will slowly revert back to a more natural shape, so maybe keep a few on just to open up the plant. What you're doing sounds exactly like what i did for my blue cheese and sour Diesel grow, check the journal out, might find it quite useful to see how i tried to scrog WITHOUT a screen last time.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/426636-2nd-grow-1-barneys-farm.html

Sounds like you're doing something similar.
 
I can't think of any reason why it won't work.

Will this method increase the usual yield?
If so, will the extra yield be worth the extra effort?
That's what I'm wondering about.


I wouldnt worry bro, pretty sure it'll work, scrog is a amazing method, and doing it right you should get up to 200% more than you typically would. I like your setup and the way its hidden Haha very nice, she's beautiful ^.^
 

lilindian

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  • Watering every 5 or so days now, trimming all the time!

  • Gona try and give her a big boost using something called Halo. Bit of info for you:

    "As revolutionary as it is legendary, HALO remains one of the most prolific boosters weve ever encountered. By stimulating and strengthening your plants natural defence systems, this pioneering foliar feed promotes radical growth and enhanced resistance to disease. It actually increases the rate of photosynthesis (the equivalent of having more lights!) leading to higher yields and increased biomass. Based around Harpin Protein - a widely used commercial application, this remains the first and only product using such technology in the UK. Trust us when we say HALO will not leave you disappointed. Words really can't do this product justice - you simply HAVE to try it! Available in either a cost effective 100g tub or 5 x soluble sachets (each making 750mls of spraying solution) suited to smaller applications. Apply 2-5 times throughout your grow for maximum effect.

    ***WARNING*** HALO is an extremely potent booster. Avoid if you are using a vertical growing system or sea of green growing technique. In grow spaces with limited headroom, don't apply this product during the transplanting stage as it will cause a massive surge in growth - potentially leaving your plants too big to manage. Also be prepared to flower your plants at a much shorter height when using HALO. Available as a cost effective 100g tub or in 5x soluble sachets - each of which dissolves in 500ml of water to create the ideal strength foliar spray."



    Whats the worst that can happen....


  • Got my new Lumatek 400/600W dimmable digital ballast, still going on the 400W's for now, will switch to the 600W HPS come flower time. Hopefully outside temps drop a little by then to compensate for the extra heat,

  • Had to turn the plant around 90 degrees and retie a lot of the branches to spread them out evenly and get them growing in the right directions. Therefore, i also had to change the shape of the screen, which is why it doesn't look as symmetrical and neat as last time. If my screen wasn't made out of Knex i'd have had to rip the whole screen out and re-tie all the branches! instead it took me 2 mins.

  • Next feed will be plain water as the last 3 have had nutes, or maybe a 1/4 strength canna feed, will see how they react to this Halo product first. Will give her a spray tomorrow just before lights off, so she can absorb while she sleeps and not get burnt.


Before tucking leaves:



After tucking leaves (more branching/bud sites exposed)



Topped branch (accidental)



Bends in branching



Struggling bud sites i hope this Halo product will kickstart.



Raised the plant by a couple inches and moved the other plant so now things look a lil sumthin like this.



The Tuberosa doesn't need 400W's of light, down there should suffice.
 

donkeyshow

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Was just looking at your other grow journal, you ended up with 8oz from two plants? I just built a screen to scrog with. Used some wood from an old futon to build a frame(hand saw and all.. lol), then I stapled some stuff I bought from a feed store to it, its at type of netting. Building it made me realize how SMALL my grow space is, and I don't think I'll have room for 6 plants doing this scrog method. 3 plants might be max. Maybe I won't scrog the other's so much not sure yet. I at least want to run 4 though. Check out my journal later for a picture. Im still unsure about trimming the fan leaves, I keep reading that its bad to do.
 

skunkpunk13

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hey a quick question im thinking of doing a scrog and i was wondering when u start out with the screen do you top the plant or do u just use the mail cola and as grows the side branches grow out and fill the screen along with the mail cola?
 

lilindian

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Was just looking at your other grow journal, you ended up with 8oz from two plants? I just built a screen to scrog with. Used some wood from an old futon to build a frame(hand saw and all.. lol), then I stapled some stuff I bought from a feed store to it, its at type of netting. Building it made me realize how SMALL my grow space is, and I don't think I'll have room for 6 plants doing this scrog method. 3 plants might be max. Maybe I won't scrog the other's so much not sure yet. I at least want to run 4 though. Check out my journal later for a picture. Im still unsure about trimming the fan leaves, I keep reading that its bad to do.
At the point i weighed it all it wasn't bone dry but pretty much dry, real weight would've probably been closer to 7.5oz, something like that. Cutting the fan leaves off is bad depending on the stage of growth and how many you cut off. For example, if i've got things right, none of the leaves on the plant now will be there when i stick her into flower, by then she would've grown new leaves, and old leaves would've been clipped off for various reasons. If you stick to clipping the biggest fan leaves off that's shading other parts of the plant, then at least you can be assured that the fan leaf that branch was for has had a chance to grow and utilise the leaf before u clip it (as its now an obstruction). I realise thats not exactly what i've done but i'm gona do that from now on. Clipping off important fan leaves does slow down branching in that spot sometimes. Hope that makes sense... In flowering, you want to avoid clipping fan leaves off, as i'm sure this will effect the size of your buds. Also it'll stress the plant. I'll be trying to keep as many of mine as possible in flower without it being overly overcrowded.

hey a quick question im thinking of doing a scrog and i was wondering when u start out with the screen do you top the plant or do u just use the mail cola and as grows the side branches grow out and fill the screen along with the mail cola?
I'm just tying the main cola down along with all the secondary branches that come off it, then i'm tying down the branches coming out of the secondary branches as so on. If you're growing a scrog up into a screen, then don't do what i'm doing. I'd stick with topping and lolly popping. Maybe top the plant to get 4 main branches, and dedicate each corner of your space to a branch each. Should fill up nicely, and a lot quicker than how i'm doing it.
 

lilindian

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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ;6288536 said:
when you adding that second screen you talked about earlier? (sorry if you already covered this and i missed it)
No worries, adding the second screen when i put her into flower so i can train all the vertical branching through it. Hopefully it'll help keep the canopy even

HAHA this grow is awesome KNEX scrog screen and a Cialis fan LOL
Is Cialis a pharmaceutical company? I always assumed so. Anyway its about what-ever u got at ur disposal right? As long as it does the job
 

skunkpunk13

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i was thinking of doing two plants in a bubbler so how would i stretch out each after i top it wouldnt it be nvm i think i just figured it out lol im baked so forgive me
 

lilindian

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looking good dude. yeah cialis is like viagra lol. how much longer do you plan to veg?
Haha, had no idea, dont even know where the fan came from in the first place. Anyway, i really want to veg her out until she's filled the entire screen but I'm going away round xmas time and need her finished and dried before then, so i might be forced to flower her at what-ever size she reaches by the end of the month. Got roughly a week to decide. If i can find someone to water her when i'm away that would be perfect, but every1 i'd normally go to will also be away. Gave her a good spray with this Halo thing so hopefully she'll grow quite a bit this week before i decide what to do

subbed that looks sikk as mate..im hear for the ride let the budding begin..
Big welcome, glad u cud make it, sit tight!

i was thinking of doing two plants in a bubbler so how would i stretch out each after i top it wouldnt it be nvm i think i just figured it out lol im baked so forgive me
Consider yourself forgiven, havn't got a clue about bubblers anyway!
 
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