On "What makes you believe that God is real?"

Padawanbater2 · Jul 25, 2015

TBoneJack said:
Your post makes sense. However, I can believe some things on faith. Or at least not completely discount them in the absence of undeniable proof one way or the other. That can be dangerous, I know.

I see us as ants (size-wise and smarts-wise) in a universe so big and complex that we can't truly comprehend. And yet people are so sure that God cannot exist.

I've never seen God. Neither have I heard him. But in my view of the vast unknown out there, I certainly can't say he doesn't exist. And in fact, for the most part (though I have some reasonable doubts), I believe in Him.

Your point is well-taken: there is no proof that God exists. But to me there is so much we don't yet know or understand.

Then why don't you believe in any of the thousands of other gods? You don't know if they exist, either, right? So why not believe in Allah, Zeus, Odin, etc.?

TBoneJack · Jul 25, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
Then why don't you believe in any of the thousands of other gods? You don't know if they exist, either, right? So why not believe in Allah, Zeus, Odin, etc.?

I studied those religions in high school and college. But I was raised a Christian from a very young age. So, either of two possibilities occurred:

1. Christianity is so right that even a child can see it.

2. At the most impressionable age, I was told things that I believed, and became so ingrained in me as to become part of my mental makeup, even if they were wrong.

The central theme of Christianity is different than the multi-god religions. And I'm no expert on other religions, so please let's don't debate on their central themes. I would lose.

Padawanbater2 · Jul 25, 2015

TBoneJack said:
I studied those religions in high school and college. But I was raised a Christian from a very young age. So, either of two possibilities occurred:

1. Christianity is so right that even a child can see it.

2. At the most impressionable age, I was told things that I believed, and became so ingrained in me as to become part of my mental makeup, even if they were wrong.

The central theme of Christianity is different than the multi-god religions. And I'm no expert on other religions, so please let's don't debate on their central themes. I would lose.

You believe it because you were raised to believe it

Does it matter to you if it's not true?

TBoneJack · Jul 25, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
You believe it because you were raised to believe it

Does it matter to you if it's not true?

It would matter to me if it's not true. I'd be disappointed. Not that I'd ever know it.

I have my doubts. I realize the Bible has flaws. There are parts of it I absolutely don't believe. But I believe in God, and that's never going to change for me, although I have given it a chance to change by challenging my own beliefs.

People don't really choose what they believe in their heart of hearts. IMO.

SweetHayz · Jul 26, 2015

SamsonsRiddle said:
The Bible indicates that the earth is round. Consider Isaiah 40:22 which mentions the “circle of the earth.” This description is certainly fitting—particularly when the earth is viewed from space; the earth always appears as a circle since it is round.

Another verse that indicates the spherical nature of our planet is Job 26:10. This verse teaches that God has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness. This boundary between light and darkness (day and night) is called the “terminator” since the light stops or “terminates” there. Someone standing on the terminator would be experiencing either a sunrise or a sunset; they are going from day to night or from night to day. The terminator is always a circle, because the earth is round.

I don't know where you get your "facts" from but most of the shit in your posts about what God's Word says is completely inaccurate.

Also, you look at it materially when it is a spiritual book. If you look where god created the light and the dark it is not talking about material light and dark, but good and evil. It's called symbolism. Maybe you need to study the bible more before you argue against what it "says".

Please back up your theories with cites and evidence. Otherwise you are just talking shit.

Isaiah 40:22
"He is the one who sits on the earth's horizon; its inhabitants are like grasshoppers before him. He is the one who stretches out the sky like a thin curtain, and spreads it out like a pitched tent."

Job 26:10
"He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness."

I believe the Human's words you read are pretty edited to the original by the religion that printed them.
Please find original digital source online and see a correct translation of the pages.

P.S. I started my research by finding the year of first theories in round earth by a greek philosopher at 6th century BC.
Then I looked for Book of Isaiah which was written at 8th century BCE which did not match my believes.
I admit I was pretty surprised at the beginning. I tough it could have been metaphor just like circle of life. Then I decided to look into the original text of the Dead Sea Scrolls and then I realized the originality was lost due to edits and translation.
Of coarse, If god has represented the earth to be "circle" from the very beginning, humanity would have believed in it and there would have not been so many people burnt alive for claiming the earth was round.
As every religion represents the bible differently. In a thousand years from now the bible will have nothing in common with its originality due to edits to adapt the book to fairly new beliefs. If this particular virtual data I've posted here remains in thousand years, then my prophecy has a high chance to be very accurate.

Good Luck. Have Fun!

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