OMEGAGARDEN Vs. GIGROW

if rotary grows worked, we'd all be using them.

not like they haven't had 15 years to figure all this stuff out. these things have been around for many years yet NOBODY uses them but their salesmen.


buckets of dirt work better.

fdd2blk said:

if rotary grows worked, we'd all be using them.

not like they haven't had 15 years to figure all this stuff out. these things have been around for many years yet NOBODY uses them but their salesmen.


buckets of dirt work better.

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I have to concur, I have went back to dirt buckets and using a aero system I built myself. The damn volksgarden I bought is too short, at the end the plants get burnt to shit. Now I use it as a veg system, works nice for that with 400 watt MH light so I guess it wastn't a total waste, expensive veg system though

LuciferX said:

I have to concur, I have went back to dirt buckets and using a aero system I built myself. The damn volksgarden I bought is too short, at the end the plants get burnt to shit. Now I use it as a veg system, works nice for that with 400 watt MH light so I guess it wastn't a total waste, expensive veg system though

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one hell of a cloning machine.

LuciferX, I've never grown with a rotary system, but I do know they work well if you know how to use them right and use a short growing indica strain. I don't doubt they're hard to master, but once you do they can produce more yield per watt or square foot of space then any other system, not to mention the positive effects of gravitropism (www.indstate.edu/biology/pdfs/bios17-1a.pdf). As far as the time and maintenance required to be successful, I wouldn't imagine it would take too much more time than other systems. And if you're going through the kind of effort and investment it takes to put on a show like that, then you should be prepared to spend a few extra minutes a week trimming to pull it off.

Also, once someone starts selling a high-power LED light for rotary systems, the burning everyone worries about will probably go away for the most part. Anyone an electrical engineer or just smart and creative? All the LED parts are for sell on the internet...

So what ever happened to your full Volksgarden, your journal stops on 12/17?

Bigcool said:

no, I was the last guy and I've been too busy to Warn all you good growers to stay away from OMEGA , VOLKSGARDEN ...OMEGA GARDENS lets your info out there. I know a guy busted because they tracked the shipping of the OMEGA to them......BE WARE THEY ARE UN-Honest operators....

whether the machines work or not it is notworth it.

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That's actually a bunch of bullshit. Reason? Hydroponic systems of ANY KIND are completely legal, and are legitimately sold and used throughout the U.S. and the world. This "guy" you know wasn't busted because they tracked the shipping of a legal product to his residence. He was, most likely, an idiot.

Buckets of dirt do not work better, I will put a 5 gallon bucket of pro mix to your dirt, and I gaurantee I would have a higher yeild. Anyways the topic had to do with rotary systems. I would love to put the rotary systems to work, to see which one yeilds better. I think it could yeild way higher amounts then the horizontal space and lighting. Thats what everyone is talking about. If you are embaressed of your end numbers thats ok, we just want the numbers. If it takes 2 months to flower and you only hit a lb on 2 600w bulbs then its not going to be worth it. But if you are saying you had a heat problem and you were not able to fix it immediatly outside of the system then you might be a novice grower which is fine. Just put your heading differently. "Challanges with the different rotary systems" not a side by side comparison. We want to know the facts. Most importantly what can this machine or other rotary machines produce. So if I told you with a 1000w hortilux bulb I was able to produce 2.22lbs per light on a 20 light setup, that had phantom digital ballast, a blow through room, which means it was not a sealed room, it takes air from one part of the outside air through the room and vents to the opposite side of the room to the outside. More of a California thing I geuss. I had 4x8 trays on a tray holder, unsealed concrete floors, dehumidifier that had to be manually dumped, no a/c, 20 wall mounted fans, the total space needed was 10 4x8 trays the trays are actually 4.5x8.5 so lets say 5x9 thats 45 sq ft of the floor x 10 so 450 sq ft. I vegged for a month, and flipped for 8 weeks total 12 weeks from clone to harvest. Can the rotary machine come close to that or even half of that? The 2.2lb per light was a fluke thing, and yes that was dried and cured. I average 1.5 to 1.75lb per light. Or if im doing sea of green its only a 8 week process from clone to flip 2 days after transplant yeild is .87lb per light to 1lb. 100 per tray at 2 1000w lights, 6x6 pots, pro mix, a good indica strain. So the sea of green per month produces .435lbper light to .5lb and the 12 week process produces .333 if you were only to get a lb per light to my highest of .73lb per light per month. So what was your weight in months?