Ohio GO VOTE

Yep Ohio looks like you shat the bed!! WTF !

I will never understand how anyone who smokes would think a no vote is the way to go. makes absolutely no sense to me,(wheres that Johnny cash pic?) same bullshit when we were voting in up here in AK. had these fuckers saying the same crap "vote no" ....FUCK OFF!!.

4 plants is better than door kicked in, dog shot, and hauled off to jail.... fucking $50 to be able to grow holy shit. yes please!!!

"4 is not enough" man you can have 4 growing and go pick up legal bud to hold you off if need be......LEGALLY

From haul your ass to jail illegal to the inconvenience of a $50 fee and 4 plant limit ,how is that not 1000X better than what you have?........

Issue 2 sure thats garbage, but even still, you would have legal weed, and an industry that could evolve. makes me sick and I don't even live there. way to slow that momentum.

Good move Ohio! !!!!
Better to keep it like it is than vote in a cash cropper monolopy.

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They painted a pretty picture. Just wish I would have read more into the fine print before supporting it. I am torn. Disappointed, and relieved at the same time.

"But some Ohio voters said they voted against Issue 3, even though they firmly support marijuana legalization.

“It doesn't help the current entrepreneurs that make a living from growing. The current growers will still be criminals and the rich will be more rich,” said Emily Ellis, 29, a psychologist living in Toledo. She said she voted against Issue 3.

“Issue 3 isn't for the people, it's for investors,” Ellis added."

what in america is actually" for the people"? im sure anyone who voted no and gets arrested, will have 2nd thoughts of the vote while their property is seized and they are sitting behind bars. dont get me wrong i hate nick lachey as much as anyone. but anyone thinking they are going to run a mom and pop cannabis distribution store of manufacturing for sales are probably never going to see that happen..

toaster struedel said:

what in america is actually" for the people"? im sure anyone who voted no and gets arrested, will have 2nd thoughts of the vote while their property is seized and they are sitting behind bars. dont get me wrong i hate nick lachey as much as anyone. but anyone thinking they are going to run a mom and pop cannabis distribution store of manufacturing for sales are probably never going to see that happen..

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The wait in NM for commercial breeder permits is finally over. 17 permits is all they are going to allow. Took years to get it all done and in the works. The rich are always going to have a foot up.

AKDrifter said:

Yep Ohio looks like you shat the bed!! WTF !

I will never understand how anyone who smokes would think a no vote is the way to go. makes absolutely no sense to me,(wheres that Johnny cash pic?) same bullshit when we were voting in up here in AK. had these fuckers saying the same crap "vote no" ....FUCK OFF!!.

4 plants is better than door kicked in, dog shot, and hauled off to jail.... fucking $50 to be able to grow holy shit. yes please!!!

"4 is not enough" man you can have 4 growing and go pick up legal bud to hold you off if need be......LEGALLY

From haul your ass to jail illegal to the inconvenience of a $50 fee and 4 plant limit ,how is that not 1000X better than what you have?........

Issue 2 sure thats garbage, but even still, you would have legal weed, and an industry that could evolve. makes me sick and I don't even live there. way to slow that momentum.

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We get 6 in AK. But that is per household. Not per adult so that sucks. However if a person can't get a lot of smoke off 6 plants with three of those flowering you probably should stick to buying. We had a lot more freedom, IN ALASKA, before. I was never challenged by the Troopers or any other pork. Now however there is really less legal liability.

hotrodharley said:

We get 6 in AK. But that is per household. Not per adult so that sucks. However if a person can't get a lot of smoke off 6 plants with three of those flowering you probably should stick to buying. We had a lot more freedom, IN ALASKA, before. I was never challenged by the Troopers or any other pork. Now however there is really less legal liability.

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Don't forget Ravin vs State of Alaska.
24 plant limit & they can all be in flower if you want.

I'm bummed that issue 2 passed, but no so much bummed that issue 3 did not. If we're going to legalize marijuana it needs to be done right. Issue 3 was not the correct way to do it, but it was a step in the right direction. Hopefully it'll happen sooner rather than later though. The fact there is still a marijuana prohibition in this day and age is just about ridiculous.

Padawanbater2 said:

Those opposed to measure 3, how do you want marijuana legalization to occur in Ohio?

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Next question to those in the cannabis community that voted no on #3:

Where is the $cash$ gonna come from that has proven to be absolutely required in order to place an issue on the ballet?


Until there was BIG $money$ in the game ALL ballot initiative efforts were miserable failures-and more of the same is what we can probably expect.

Ohioans had a chance to exchange the illegal status of cannabis users for legal status and absolutely blew it-now we will wait....how many years of cannabis possession busts?

And it appeared to be such an easy choice to make...especially if critical thinking was employed.


I think in a just world, those that opposed Issue 3 (and therefore supported ongoing cannabis prohibition) would be the ones being busted for pot subsequent to yesterdays disgrace at the polls.

Look at the voter turnout of 42+% that is considered a good turnout 42% of registered voters is a very small fraction of eligible voters so much for democracy...without meaningful LIMITS of exercise of power.


Democracy and voting appear to be very much overrated...at least upon an honest examination of the results...

Padawanbater2 said:

Those opposed to measure 3, how do you want marijuana legalization to occur in Ohio?

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Apparently Issue #3 opponents expect RE-legalization to occur via...magic...

Ohio should have legalized even if there was a monopoly... Its almost as if the anti-marijuana campaign somehow psyched the voters out.

-It would have created a new industry, and with that there are ancillary services associated with MJ. A friend of mine here simply sells storage containers and compliant packaging for MJ. I think ohio missed out on making alot of money. Hemp trimming temps, garden services.. etc..

-There is nothing saying that voters could change the monopoly in the future, or to have individual grows. Laws change.

-Black markets dont disappear with legal MJ. This is little threat to cash croppers.. You think a legal monopoly can undercut the black market?. No it doesn't.. In fact it fuels a bigger demand for MJ in general and it pushes the quality up.

GrowerGoneWild said:

Ohio should have legalized even if there was a monopoly... Its almost as if the anti-marijuana campaign somehow psyched the voters out.

-It would have created a new industry, and with that there are ancillary services associated with MJ. A friend of mine here simply sells storage containers and compliant packaging for MJ. I think ohio missed out on making alot of money. Hemp trimming temps, garden services.. etc..

-There is nothing saying that voters could change the monopoly in the future, or to have individual grows. Laws change.

-Black markets dont disappear with legal MJ. This is little threat to cash croppers.. You think a legal monopoly can undercut the black market?. No it doesn't.. In fact it fuels a bigger demand for MJ in general and it pushes the quality up.

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Like the guy in Frisco who could not get a dispensary license.He saw a dispensary in an upstairs office and rented the place down below it. Started cooking pizza and even selling it by the slice. He says no regrets and the only cops that come are customers. He's rich now.

natro.hydro said:

There isn't any home cultivation allowed to my knowledge. So as far as I can tell you will still be breaking the law by growing. Just be a able to buy your weed from 1 of 10 places instead of making it yourself.

I want legalization (would rather decrim) but not if it means creating a monopoly on weed.

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If you knew what proposal said you see we in Ohio would've been allowed to home grow 4 flowering plants not enough for some but if growing for own use 4 is more than enough. I yielded over a quarter pound from one plant at a smoking rate of around an ounce a month which is what I went through before growing my own each plant lasts me about 4 months even if I only grew one plant that would work fine for me since its roughly 4 months from seed germination to being done curing. Forget the greed aspect since in every legal state there's a few getting filthy rich from cannabis. But everybody hears MONOPOLY and runs the other way it was such bullshit.

natro.hydro said:

Not a singular monopoly, but by limiting the licenses to 10 you essentially are creating a cartel of 10 people who have a shared interest in making sure they never lose power. You see how that could negatively influence things right? And had not heard the 4 plant rule, got a source for that if you don't mind?

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Yea check out responsible Ohio's webpage to read whole proposal but doesn't matter now they'll never win. There are much better amendments out there for Ohio legalize Ohio 2016 is a much better proposal but if nothing gets past in 2016 then I'm definitely moving out of this fucked up state. New Mexico here I come but I'm sure there are cons with NM too

squirt1961 said:

Yea check out responsible Ohio's webpage to read whole proposal but doesn't matter now they'll never win. There are much better amendments out there for Ohio legalize Ohio 2016 is a much better proposal but if nothing gets past in 2016 then I'm definitely moving out of this fucked up state. New Mexico here I come but I'm sure there are cons with NM too

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There are plus's & minus's no matter where you go.
Choose wisely & hope for the best.

Any news in Ohio? I want to visit it. Can i smoke there?

http://norml.org/laws/item/ohio-penalties-2

No change.