Nutrients for soil grows

@Rasta Roy Hello mate so I was looking at my northern light auto and it's pretty light in some bits so I took a few pictures to show my mate and he said it looks like it has started budding but I didn't notice any pistils except little ones on the top of the plant? What's your opinion on this?

damian0536 said:

@Rasta Roy Hello mate so I was looking at my northern light auto and it's pretty light in some bits so I took a few pictures to show my mate and he said it looks like it has started budding but I didn't notice any pistils except little ones on the top of the plant? What's your opinion on this?

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That definitely looks like a bud beginning to form. You're probably seeing pistils up top but not on bottom because of the top will ripen along before the bottom (cause it's getting the most direct light exposure). That's why pruning is important to make sure your lower branches are getting enough light exposure that you can get an even ripening from top to bottom. Or just do a scrog set up (you can't do that with autoflowers tho), and you don't have bottom nugs to worry about.

It's still a small plant I guess maybe I won't get much from it but the fact I haven't got anything to smoke something is better than nothing haha. So should I do the 4/1 feed pk ratio on the next feed considering its starting to bloom?

damian0536 said:

It's still a small plant I guess maybe I won't get much from it but the fact I haven't got anything to smoke something is better than nothing haha. So should I do the 4/1 feed pk ratio on the next feed considering its starting to bloom?

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Yeah I would go for it. But yeah man that's the bummer with autoflowers. Normal plants you can veg them til they're as big as you want and flower when you switch their light cycle.

Yea I have though about doing regular seeds when I upgrade all my lighting and get a good size tent. Oh well still excited for the harvest even though it won't be alot haha cheers mate

No problem. Best of luck! I also scour eBay and Craigslist for equipment anytime I got extra cash.

I use FFOF and tiger bloom. Just curiuos, does anyone reuse their soil? Comments on this? (I don't but I sure hate carrying bags of soil in the house and up to the third floor.

haight said:

I use FFOF and tiger bloom. Just curiuos, does anyone reuse their soil? Comments on this? (I don't but I sure hate carrying bags of soil in the house and up to the third floor.

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I reuse my soil! You could too if you stopped pouring that salty nutrient on your plants! No judgement tho friend

If you just switch to plain water your last couple weeks though it should wash away those extra salts and you should be good.

I might go ROLS some time. For now I am happy to reuse my
soils in my vegetable garden. I mulch everything. :0)

Over the years I have dumped shit on top of my soil thinking it was making a difference. I use very little nutrient just to make up for what might be washed out of the soil after about 2 to 3 weeks. Sweeteners and hardeners

Javadog said:

I might go ROLS some time. For now I am happy to reuse my
soils in my vegetable garden. I mulch everything. :0)

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You don't have to go full ROLS to reuse your soil but as long as your reusing somewhere! The woman that lived in my house before me grew as well and I've had to deal with her dumped out promix all over the corners of my yard. Super annoying.

Rasta Roy said:

I reuse my soil! You could too if you stopped pouring that salty nutrient on your plants! No judgement tho friend

If you just switch to plain water your last couple weeks though it should wash away those extra salts and you should be good.

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I fertilize very sparingly. I mix it per directions and then put only a cup of it in 3 qts. aged water

haight said:

I fertilize very sparingly. I mix it per directions and then put only a cup of it in 3 qts. aged water

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I would reuse away then if I were you my friend!

Im curious....why do growers use soil if they're going to use nutrients later on?

Soil is great if you're using it as soil. Soil is not so great when used strictly as a substrate. Its easy to over water as all of you probably know.


We see it like this. If you're going to grow in soil....Use composts, organic additives and microbes for your plant's nutrition.


If you're going the liquid or powdered nutrient route....things like peat moss (promix) and coco are much better alternatives. They are inert (for the most part) and you can water them frequently without any issues.



Just our 2 cents!

How about lime in say promix? How much is enough?

If you have a properly pH buffered nutrients and chelated micro nutrients, you shouldn't need to add any lime.


Our growers have done 100's of round of peat moss (promix) without the addition of lime. Here is Sour D in promise at week 6 of flowering.....she is fed every 2 days with Perfect Grower nutrients at an EC of about 1.7.


If you're having pH issues, you should consider a different nutrient line or add lime as necessary.


Good luck!

PerfectGrower said:

If you have a properly pH buffered nutrients and chelated micro nutrients, you shouldn't need to add any lime.


Our growers have done 100's of round of peat moss (promix) without the addition of lime. Here is Sour D in promise at week 6 of flowering.....she is fed every 2 days with Perfect Grower nutrients at an EC of about 1.7.


If you're having pH issues, you should consider a different nutrient line or add lime as necessary.


Good luck!

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To me this all sounds like a shady sales pitch. First, pro mix isn't straight peat. That's why it's called "mix". It's already pH'd to spec and contains buffers. "Hundreds of rounds without lime"? SO WHAT. Promix is an industry validated horticultural product ANY decent nutrition product will grow superb bud when used with pro mix. That is why it is common for pro growers to simply use peters and pro mix.

Visit tomatoville, tomato masters use promix and compost alone to grow stunning tasty beauties.

The repeated reference to the sour d is a little desperate.

"If you're having pH issues, you should consider a different nutrient line or add lime as necessary." really? that's your response to :"How about lime in say promix? How much is enough?"

Im not sure what you're used to dude but things at riu and IC are a little more rigorous than you seemed to anticipate.

You obviously have a dislike for me and I'm sorry for that. I'm really not here to argue. We all try our best to give sound advice. Sure, mine has a twist because we sell a product here. At the end of the day, I think both of our intentions are positive.


The proof is in the pudding. Our pudding is guaranteed. I'll end it there and I wish you all the best.

PerfectGrower said:

You obviously have a dislike for me and I'm sorry for that. I'm really not here to argue. We all try our best to give sound advice. Sure, mine has a twist because we sell a product here. At the end of the day, I think both of our intentions are positive.


The proof is in the pudding. Our pudding is guaranteed. I'll end it there and I wish you all the best.

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No, you're. mistaken bro. Zero feelings for you either way. It's simply that spirit of RIU is very much to challenge bombastic claims. It's how some sites have credibilty eg: RIU for diy. IC for AEA and ROLS.
420 for nothing <easy sales pickens over there

Your making it worse by using irrelevant and sketchy details to substantiate the validity of your products. In the example above you pointed out successful grows in ProMix. Miracle grow can make those boasts. That type of nonsense undermines your cred and gives the impression that you are a snake oil merchant.

Lets agree to disagree and let this post doing better things in life