Árboles verdes
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any info helps bro, thanks
Nutrients for soil grows
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SPLFreak808
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not if you get some epsom salts or cal/mag. you can even get through a whole grow with just FFOF+FFBigBloom+epsom salts.
SPLFreak808
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thats actually impressive if you never had any deficiencies yet. and i wouldnt start any type of nutes unless she ask for it. she looks healthy, except for that crazy stretch. cfl's?
innerG
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Thanks for the reply - what/when do I do with the Epsom salts?
I'm 7 days into 12/12
SPLFreak808
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i have no idea. you have to ask your plant that lol. if you look at deficiency charts to study them you will know when your plants are deficient with anything.
That mix sounds a lot what I was using outside and it worked great. i used a bit of mycorizhae and was getting roots growing above the soil into the hay. New to rollout up but I love your approach
You know any good fed system can return one as I'd like to try with new crop
Silky T
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Good lookin' plant! I like the fact that you used MG bc I am a newbie and for some reason, I can't find any of those designer nutes and vitamins for soil, etc. etc. I live in Houston and you would think I could find it everywhere. I think someone told me that there was a Fox Farm store on the North side, but that's like going to North Carolina from Virginia here and it's not an easy, fun trip to begin with, just not worth it if I can use MG. I did buy some blood meal and bone meal last trip out because I had just read something about it the night before on RIU and thought I might need it. So far, I've been too scared to used it. I also only have MG and a pH tester. I used MG Organic potting soil for the beans and I am at 3 weeks- how do they look?Nuthin fancy for me.. this is pretty representative for my norm of late using CFL and Miracle Grow 'All Purpose' from start to end. Only other thing I have in my bag of tricks is a simple PH litmus test, alcohol and h20.
Miracle Grow? Get's the job done. Cost? I dunno.. I bought a box last year for 6 bucks, I have harvested about a lb and a half/2 lbs since and still have half a box.
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I'm not a 'fan'. It's cheap and works and I use it. Had of Jacks or another all purpose been on sale that day I would of bought that instead. Like I said, I am simple and only do this for myself anymore, I don't like to bother with extra stuff and my plants don't seem to mind as long as they are getting their NPK and trace.
What is the alcohol for?
Also, I'm concerned about the lights. I'm not sure what the first bulb I bought was bc I just bought it for the high lumens (2760) and I just bought another bulb, same reason, it was a compact bulb with 1600 lumens. So I've got roughly 3500 lumens on the 4 plants. I don't have a clue when to change to CFL and what lumens I am looking for to start veg. Also, should I change to a larger pot for veg?
Have you seen that trick with a diaper for making really moist potting soil? Check out the vid on youtube about using diapers for planting. I did do that and added a little MG quick start to it and they seem to like it. Plus since I am an "over-waterer" this method keeps me from watering every time I look at them! I haven't watered in over a week now and the soil is still real moist and has the MG nutes in it. So far so good, but I'm getting into the tricky stage with appropriate lighting, pots, soil, etc for veg.
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AllDayToker
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I would say that's not 100% organic.
AllDayToker
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personally wouldn't consider any of that bottled stuff 100% organic. Probably plenty of synthetics in there.
Árboles verdes
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its really hard to get something that's really organic.. i think natural would be a better goal. and most synthetics are considered natural, since they are in the raw salt form. as far as the plant is concerned it cant tell the difference between where the food is coming from, whether it be immediately available in the form of a raw salt, or needing to be broken down in the form of a meal (guano etc).
That being said, soemthing about the soil aspect definitely provides a better flavor profile. something is missing in hydro that soil provides that results in a smoother flavor in my opinion. but i don't think it has anything to do with the nutrient form.
in soil, i prefer to start with a good base soil like roots organic, has enough to carry the plant through the first month assuming you're using a proper pot size.. then top dressing once with guano, blood meal, fish bone meal, alfalfa meal, sea kelp, and azomite.
give em some microbial tea (AACT) couple times through flower as well.
that's the best way in my opinion.. results will be the same or better than all those bottled watered down lines, and you'll be saving a ton of money on your nutrients. more money in doesn't equal better product.
That being said, soemthing about the soil aspect definitely provides a better flavor profile. something is missing in hydro that soil provides that results in a smoother flavor in my opinion. but i don't think it has anything to do with the nutrient form.
in soil, i prefer to start with a good base soil like roots organic, has enough to carry the plant through the first month assuming you're using a proper pot size.. then top dressing once with guano, blood meal, fish bone meal, alfalfa meal, sea kelp, and azomite.
give em some microbial tea (AACT) couple times through flower as well.
that's the best way in my opinion.. results will be the same or better than all those bottled watered down lines, and you'll be saving a ton of money on your nutrients. more money in doesn't equal better product.
VTMi'kmaq
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beech and i think alike.................your welcome..................
-38cups Wiggle Worms Earthworm Casting (1-0-0)
-10cups Perlite-11tsp Rooters Mycorrhizae
*Soil Base
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-1.5cups Indonesian Hi-P Bat Guano (.5-13-.2)
-1.5cups Algamin Kelp Meal (1-0-2)
-1.5cups Espoma Tomato Tone (3-4-6)
*Nutritional Amendments
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-1.5cups Azomite
-0.5cup Espoma Green sand
-1.25cups Hi-Cal Lime
*Mineral Amendments
_This mix is from a old member here that I trust,and he had awesome results!!
This is what im going to run next run.Have been running FF line of nutes.And FFOF.
Beech
VTMi'kmaq
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Ive smoked hydro and organics.............i wont try to understand why organics taste feel so much better, that being said hydro is great for bag appeal, but this lover of headies wants a large jar of organic fire alien kush nugs over ANY hydro hightest out there. just an opinion.
strainbank
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strainbank
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@333maxwell damn dude that little plant looks bad ass, where those local genetics? i guess if you grow well and have a clean room maybe the nutes dont matter as much? im new to growing and starting a new inhouse grow and waiting for my first outdoor grow to finish.
boogie4200
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[anyone know how much powered lime stone to add to a gallon of potting soil...im having acid soil problems..