420Hazza
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Vermicompost is the way you go
Nutrients for soil grows
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AllDayToker
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No brainer!
AllDayToker
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Agreed.
Guerrilla OP
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There has been a very thorough non-biased study done on another site comparing the major nutrients available...
The results are:
1- earth juice
2- bio canna
3- advanced nutrients
4- general organics
5- fox farm
6 dyna grow
I've used earth juice for years and strongly recommend it if you are growing in soil. Most of the guys growing monsters use this nute combined with a "super" soil. Which requires no additional nutes added to the soil until flower at which time earth juice bloom formula is added... (This is how the biggest, healthiest plants I've ever seen are grown 8lb-ers in 300 gallon pots) with a very similar simple method... I sometimes laugh at how much stuff some people add to grows a simple organic super soil, with a bloom formula and maybe a foliar feed is all it needs to achieve amazing high quality yields. You are far better of using that money to invest in better quality base soil like canna terra or black and gold, more lights or larger pots this will produce much better results than all these additives and snake oils...
The results are:
1- earth juice
2- bio canna
3- advanced nutrients
4- general organics
5- fox farm
6 dyna grow
I've used earth juice for years and strongly recommend it if you are growing in soil. Most of the guys growing monsters use this nute combined with a "super" soil. Which requires no additional nutes added to the soil until flower at which time earth juice bloom formula is added... (This is how the biggest, healthiest plants I've ever seen are grown 8lb-ers in 300 gallon pots) with a very similar simple method... I sometimes laugh at how much stuff some people add to grows a simple organic super soil, with a bloom formula and maybe a foliar feed is all it needs to achieve amazing high quality yields. You are far better of using that money to invest in better quality base soil like canna terra or black and gold, more lights or larger pots this will produce much better results than all these additives and snake oils...
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SOMEBEECH
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Any pics?
AllDayToker
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I use a little myco rooters from earth juice, besides that there is nothing on there on my list. 
Currently using only earth worm casting teas/microbe teas and alfalfa&kelp/nute tea for my feeding. Molasses with the microbe teas and the occasional Fish Emulsion with the nute teas.
Simple and pure organic. With my recycled soil I have only have had to feed one nute tea with they first 30+days. A cup total between the two made me 4-5 gallons of tea. I have fed a couple microbe teas to increase my microbe colony from the recycled soil being on the drier side.
That's my method this run and I am loving the results. Super healthy looking plants.
Currently using only earth worm casting teas/microbe teas and alfalfa&kelp/nute tea for my feeding. Molasses with the microbe teas and the occasional Fish Emulsion with the nute teas.
Simple and pure organic. With my recycled soil I have only have had to feed one nute tea with they first 30+days. A cup total between the two made me 4-5 gallons of tea. I have fed a couple microbe teas to increase my microbe colony from the recycled soil being on the drier side.
That's my method this run and I am loving the results. Super healthy looking plants.
Guerrilla OP
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What would you like pics of sir the study? Am I allowed to post links to other sites?
All day toker that is exactly how organics should be done IMO a decent soil should have the nutrients required until flower... At which time I find an organic bloom formula (earth juice in my case) added produces very nice results...
AllDayToker
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Yeah that's exactly what I think as well lol. Yeah during flower you have to feed for them to stay healthy no doubt about it. This run I will simply change the ratio of alfalfa and kelp. Veg I do 3/4 alfalfa 1/4 kelp, flower I do 1/2 and 1/2.
No boosters besides a little bit of top dress of this stanky stuff a buddy of mine told me about. I don't like spreading it around I like to keep it my secret, I don't know if he cares or not haha. He can talk all he wants about it he showed me, but anyways it's organic and increase yield a crazy amount. Buds were hanging last harvest about 4-5 months ago.
AllDayToker
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I think pictures/links of both would be great. Evidence.
Guerrilla OP
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Here is a link to the study a lot to read but we'll worth it...
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/indoor-soil-cultivation/114640-top-nutrient-study-best-produces-most.html
Here are the 8-lbers some are more like 12lb-ers grown using a very similar simple organic method mentioned in my above post... These were all grown by the same person!! Proof that simple organics is the way to go and will produce as big if not bigger yields...NOT MY PHOTOS (after the last debacle when I showed someone something on here lol)
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/indoor-soil-cultivation/114640-top-nutrient-study-best-produces-most.html
Here are the 8-lbers some are more like 12lb-ers grown using a very similar simple organic method mentioned in my above post... These were all grown by the same person!! Proof that simple organics is the way to go and will produce as big if not bigger yields...NOT MY PHOTOS (after the last debacle when I showed someone something on here lol)
AllDayToker
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Holy fuck! Going to have to give that thread a read.
Guerrilla OP
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Yeah it's funny the days of pulling short little 2lb-ers outdoors are long gone simply by getting back to basics via simple organics and massive amounts of root space... 8 years ago people didn't think 10-12lb-ers were possible now you've got guys pulling down 5lb-ers on their first and second grows and it's all nice simple organic growing thats producing the results...
mahlon21
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Same here, though not quite as many guanos ... But I'm new to this
Last grow I used AN Sensi A&B (ph perfect), Big Bud, Bud Candy, Overdrive, and B-52 (I think that was all of it) at about 50% - 75% strength for flower. For veg I used straight Happy Frog. That was my first indoor grow, and it went really well actually. I was happy with the nutrients, but I want organic just because I do, so no more of that for me. That really was a killer first grow though
Oh, I used Happy Frog with a little added perlite but nothing else. I transplanted to bigger pots for flower, with FFOF and added perlite, then started adding flower nutes a few weeks later very light, then "full strength" (50-75%) some time after that (I forget exactly, and this Cotton Candy is good)
Here's a little of my Green Crack...
Hey Jerry I really would like to talk to you bro- I am on my very first grow now and getting a little overwhelmed. Only because i think i bit off a bit more than i can chew; I ordered 5 Feminized (Ice) seeds from Nirvana and they sent me 10 free; We’ll i germinate all of them like a weirdo and now I’m stuck with 13 plants that are getting bigger every single minute!
I too am using Happy frog by fox farm; however, i was told to start using “Fox Farms Nute” line. Prior to 6/20 i had never used any nutrients, because i didtn even know how, but I did recently i used them twice and used 1/2 of what the directions called for; this was the advice of the owner at the local hydro shop; So prior to feeding them nutes a couple of my regular plants leaves had 2 or 4 tiny holes in them, thought it could be mites, but ruled that out. in addition the leaves started to look a bit wilted, and started getting small patches of yellow;; I’ve read just about every NUTRIENT DEFECINECY book there is but most of the symptoms all are very similar so i don’t know what TO DO!!
You said you did your entire grow using just the soil; you used no nutes at all; did you ever check your PH though out your grow; I just recently purchased the PH kit because i don’t know what else is going on with my plants; But they are looking healthy despite the ugly little wilted leaves and yellow spots.
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mahlon21
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First Time grower, and i need help learning to feed my plants!!
So i’ve got 13 total plants; 5 feminized, and 8 Regular (ICE) plants from Nrivana.
now only 3 or 4 REGULAR plants have been showing signs of some sort of deficiency. I have no idea what it could be , i’ve ruled out pest,s like mites and aphids etc.
I thought it could be the heat but since my room stays close to 76 every day.
The leaves on some have these yellow burnt looking spots, some leaves look a bit wilted, and others are turning upside down, the actual leaf flipped over.
So If i have Nutrients from Fox Farms Line how in the world do i provide one plant with something when needs more than the other plant does especially when my nutrients have different amounts of each vitamin or nutrient?
So what do i do??!?!?!?!!
So i’ve got 13 total plants; 5 feminized, and 8 Regular (ICE) plants from Nrivana.
now only 3 or 4 REGULAR plants have been showing signs of some sort of deficiency. I have no idea what it could be , i’ve ruled out pest,s like mites and aphids etc.
I thought it could be the heat but since my room stays close to 76 every day.
The leaves on some have these yellow burnt looking spots, some leaves look a bit wilted, and others are turning upside down, the actual leaf flipped over.
So If i have Nutrients from Fox Farms Line how in the world do i provide one plant with something when needs more than the other plant does especially when my nutrients have different amounts of each vitamin or nutrient?
So what do i do??!?!?!?!!
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Trainwrek'd
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Need to hire a farm of people for that harvest..
mahlon21
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Need to hire a farm of people for that harvest..
Are you saying I’m going to have a Big harvest?? Because its just me! All of my plants are still in veg and one of them is almost 2 feet already; Is this bad, i heard they can triple in size in flower?
Trainwrek'd
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I was looking at the pictures with that guy and his jungle.
Bryon240
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nice thread, I have learned a lot so keep it coming...a buddy of mine said he was growing with promix bx and I got some and didn't research anything and everything is stunted. I am cutting my cube of bx with a bag of vermiculite and a bag of perlite now so the water is passing better now and the next round has gotten better height and I hope the buds fill out more also.....part of my garden is growing in pots on the floor and I have 3 2'x4' fearless garden tables.