yeah originally i was thinking about doing dwc then thought about doing aero then finally decided on f&d but yeah shits super addicting lol
Non-Stop Deficiency Battle (PICS)
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pinner420
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I just sent another friend here with same issues. They turning around for ya.
mrgreen2015
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ROOTS ROOTS ROOTS
I know what you mean about 1 in 20 people helping you out. I been all around this forum trying to get help. Very few help and even fewer know what they are talking about. But yes ROOTS need to be in check. I was over watering big time and thought it wasn't enough nutes. I ran into problem after problem when I tried to self diagnose. Save yourself a big headache.
Good luck!
pinner420
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I've heard chealated bonds are broken by h202 according to the guys at Dutch Master anyway. I notice that folks are using this stuff (h202) in real time with plants in the system to increase DO (Disolved Oxygen); however, have heard that the first element it plays havoc with is Iron. Not really intending to open a debate on Dissolved oxygen here; was really wondering more about the free radicals in the peroxide that might bump the pecking order of elements. Thanks for any pointers on this subject.... Here's a great read I tripped across. http://www.bestseedbank.com/diy-deep-water-culture-the-recirculating-oxygen-system/comment-page-2/#comment-26289
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100% the roots, my rapid rooter was still getting wet so i lowered the flood level. and things seem a bit better but yesterday i put full strength lucas in the res and what do you know... my wilted, shitting looking northern lights (that have been fuckedup the past month and a half) perked right up overnight!!! i remember alphaphase telling me 1.0ec was was too low for GH nutes so i upped the ppm to full lucas which is just under 1.6ec with r.o water and they perked up after just 2 or 3 floods!!! now i just hope the growth speed picks up. i fimmed the plants last friday so its easier to tell how much they're growing
i never heard of it messing with iron. idk if you've ever heard of al b. fuct but he used to use 10ml/liter of 50% h2o2 as a treatment for plants and said he couldn't notice a single negative side affect of using it and thats a big difference in dosage to what people put in the res of usually around like 1ml/liter of 29%. i don't use it for the DO (i have 2 air stones in my res) although it is a nice benefit, i use it to keep a sterile res
Bubblegum31
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Gregor Eisenhorn
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I have no means to hijack the thread, but since OP is on a good road (good job mate) and using GH nutrients, I was wondering if anyone could help me as well.
I noticed that a few people recommend much higher levels of nutrients with GH. I've been having huge problems with my grow, mainly because I was using tap water that had too much calcium that completely locked out the rest, I alo grow with a DWC system, 5 gal bucket.
Yesterday I filled up my reservoir with R/O water for the first time, added about 250-300 ppms of cal/mag (I have a serious cal/mag deficiency that's been going of for weeks) and about 200 ppms worth of GH 3 part nutes. Anyone recommend adding enough nutes to up the ppms to 700 in my case? Growth hasn't seemed to improve, although it could be too soon to tell.
Cheers.
I noticed that a few people recommend much higher levels of nutrients with GH. I've been having huge problems with my grow, mainly because I was using tap water that had too much calcium that completely locked out the rest, I alo grow with a DWC system, 5 gal bucket.
Yesterday I filled up my reservoir with R/O water for the first time, added about 250-300 ppms of cal/mag (I have a serious cal/mag deficiency that's been going of for weeks) and about 200 ppms worth of GH 3 part nutes. Anyone recommend adding enough nutes to up the ppms to 700 in my case? Growth hasn't seemed to improve, although it could be too soon to tell.
Cheers.
Bubblegum31
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If you have lockout caused by calcium I wouldnt use cal\mag now, I would use epsom salt first to correct the issue then withen 2/3 days if they are better I would be on track again using cal\mag.
Maybe you can make a thread and attach pics, sure members here will help.
Gregor Eisenhorn
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Thing is, I've also noticed that a few days ago, brown spots have started to appear on the leaves, and it looks like a calcium deficiency, that's why I added the cal mag. I'll see if she recovers a bit through the night.
my biggest fuck ups have been root problems and low ppms/trying to fuck with cal-mag. i feel its was to complex to use calmag and shit using tapwater and being a beginner because how much each nute coincides/works with each other. i used full lucas with r.o on tuesday (1110ppm @.7 conversion) and i topped my res today and my ppm still went down 60ppm in the last few days. i am seeing slight magnesium deficiency though so i might replace those pumps with cal-mag+ or epsom salt and just hope i don't lock anything out. I've always been told if you use 3part GH to use the directions exactly on the bottle, have you been doing that? if anything maybe try lucas formula with r.o
Gregor Eisenhorn
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Early during this grow, I was giving so much nutrients that I completely nute'd the fuck out of her. She had severe nitrogen toxicity all around, so I backed off and have been reluctant in giving her strongs nutrients. But I'll add a bit more today and see how she goes, the plants much older now then she was before.
rkymtnman
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have you thought about trying hard water micro from GH?
i love GH stuff. well, actually, flora nova i dont like. i'm using flora duo and love it. flora micro and bloom via lucas formula has been succesful since a long time ago
my max EC is 1.2
Gregor Eisenhorn
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I've been using hardwater for when I was using tapwater. I now use softwater micro for my RO water... unless you're suggesting for me to use hardwater for thr RO water?
those are 2 months old? as in you germinated the seed 2 months ago or you put them in the flood tray 2 months ago? how tall are they?
damnnn, well you said the node spacing in rdwc is double the spacing than the ebb and flow so i guess i should stick to the flood trays because I'm looking for the tightest nodes possible... I'm doing the al b fuct sog method so i need them as tight as possible
thats a beautiful cola bro! but yeah i heard a bunch of stuff about rock wool messing up the ph and staying too moist so you can't water frequently as frequently so i grabbed rapid rooters but I'm going to give root riot plugs a shot too