Non Decarboxylated butter.

Lets do some experimenting and really find out the minimum time/temps. so we can keep our flavors.
Any decarboxylation experience is welcome.
I had always made edibles by boiling the trim in water and butter on low heat for 6-12 hours, until I recently learned about decarboxylation. I even made a recent batch of brownies by just cooking some butter and water with the trim on a double boiler for 4 hours. It took about 2 brownies to notice an effect and they made you very sleepy.
Since I still had 3 sticks of cannabutter left and had acquired a non contact infrared thermometer, I figured I could cook the butter on low-medium heat till it reached 250 and hold it there for 27 min. After it reached about 250 it started bubbling for about 8 min., during the 8 min the temp went up to about 280 max and 245 min. I just waited until all the bubbles were gone.
This proved to me 2 things,
1)That there was actually THCA in the butter
2) I had been doing things wrong.
This all has led me to wonder how long it actually takes to extract the thca into the butter. I am setting upp tjis experiment in order to find out.
Since I have a fresh stick of butter and a about 10 grams of sugar trim, I plan on cooking the trim in the 1 stick of butter on a double boiler for 1 hour and then cooking the butter at 250 until it stops bubbling. Next I will recook the same trim in the same decarbed butter and re decarb it. If it bubbles again, I will know that more thc was absorbed. I can keep doing this to see how long/much it takes to full charge one stick of butter.
Here is a pic of the brownies with some decarbed chocolate on the top and strawberries with decarbed chocolate.

Started the experiment today, I did a little more research and it seems that butter can hold up to 15mg of thc/ g of butter. I am using the decarboxylation bell curve diagram to come to this conclusion. If this is true and 1 stick of butter has 58 g of saturated fat, then I would need .87 g thc/ 1 stick of butter. I will just round up to 1 gram/stick to make it easy to do the math in my head.
So now I just had to determine how much trim it would take to produce 1 gram of thc. I have seen the 1 oz per 1 lbs ratio plenty of times, so I think this will do well. The only difference is if using trim and not flowers , double the plant material. This also falls in line this the 4-8 g of bho from 1 oz rule, so this ratio seems plausible. For 1 stick of butter I would need 14 g of trim. I happen to have 12 g of high quality sugar trim/ dry sift and 2 g of some flower that I can donate to science. This should be more than enough thc for 1 stick of butter to handle and should leave some thc still available in the plant matter.

The first thing I did was melt down the butter and clarify it to get rid of the solids that may absorb some thc, but would get discarded in the cleaning process.
Added about 1 cup of water to the clarified butter and the satchel of cheese clothed trim.
After about 15 min at 180-190 the smell and color could be noticed considerably.
After 30 min it was a lot darker
45 min even darker and danker
At 60 min I took it off the stove and set it in the fridge to cool, so I can pour the water off and rinse the solidified butter.
Pics so far.

So now I have taken the solid butter and poured off the waste water form the bottom.Without this water I can cook my butter at a higher temperature than 212. My goal was to bring the temp up to 250 for 27 min or as long as I need to to full decarb the butter(when the bubbles stop).
As soon as the temp got to around 250 it started bubbling like baking soda and vinegar. This continued for around 10-15 min. When I was sure the bubbles stopped, I added the trim again and some more water and set it on the double boiler again.
I plan on leaving it for another hour then repeating the process to see if and how much more bubbling will happen and at what point it just wont bubble anymore, either due to saturation or not having anymore thc to give.
More pics. Video of decarbing the butter being uploaded..
Non decarbed butter

waste water and the repeat of the process below.

The new trend is to leave the trim in the extract. Gives you all of the beneficial parts of the plant.

So after cooking the cheese cloth of trim in the water over the double boiler for the second time, cooling and it pouring off the waste water. I began to raise the temp up to 250 and again it bubbled like mad. However not for nearly as long.
This shows right here that there was more thca extracted from the second run of the trim.
What other conclusions can be drawn from this?

First run.

mix weed or hash into slow cooker with coconut oil and water on low heat. stir frequently over the next 6 hours. add in some soy lecithin throughout the process. pour through a metal strainer into a large enough container and refrigerate. after it solidifies the oil will solidify on top and the solid plant material and water will settle to bottom. pull the puck of oil out of the container and dry it off. the underside of the puck may still have some solids so you could remelt and refrigerate another time to try to purify it again.

shishkaboy said:

Lets do some experimenting and really find out the minimum time/temps. so we can keep our flavors.
Any decarboxylation experience is welcome.
I had always made edibles by boiling the trim in water and butter on low heat for 6-12 hours, until I recently learned about decarboxylation. I even made a recent batch of brownies by just cooking some butter and water with the trim on a double boiler for 4 hours. It took about 2 brownies to notice an effect and they made you very sleepy.
Since I still had 3 sticks of cannabutter left and had acquired a non contact infrared thermometer, I figured I could cook the butter on low-medium heat till it reached 250 and hold it there for 27 min. After it reached about 250 it started bubbling for about 8 min., during the 8 min the temp went up to about 280 max and 245 min. I just waited until all the bubbles were gone.
This proved to me 2 things,
1)That there was actually THCA in the butter
2) I had been doing things wrong.
This all has led me to wonder how long it actually takes to extract the thca into the butter. I am setting upp tjis experiment in order to find out.
Since I have a fresh stick of butter and a about 10 grams of sugar trim, I plan on cooking the trim in the 1 stick of butter on a double boiler for 1 hour and then cooking the butter at 250 until it stops bubbling. Next I will recook the same trim in the same decarbed butter and re decarb it. If it bubbles again, I will know that more thc was absorbed. I can keep doing this to see how long/much it takes to full charge one stick of butter.
Here is a pic of the brownies with some decarbed chocolate on the top and strawberries with decarbed chocolate.
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Nice tutorial Shiskaboy Your brownies and strawberries look delicious! I am going to have to watch your decarb video on my phone though, my computer keeps freezing it on me.

lately I have been decarbing on cookie sheets. Heat oven to 250f then reduce to 220 for 20 to 25 minutes. I would like to see the difference in a cookie decarbed this way and one decarbed after the butter is made.

BeastGrow said:

mix weed or hash into slow cooker with coconut oil and water on low heat. stir frequently over the next 6 hours. add in some soy lecithin throughout the process. pour through a metal strainer into a large enough container and refrigerate. after it solidifies the oil will solidify on top and the solid plant material and water will settle to bottom. pull the puck of oil out of the container and dry it off. the underside of the puck may still have some solids so you could remelt and refrigerate another time to try to purify it again.

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thats damn clever! I use dry ice bub hash too. It makes it so easy to figure out how much is in the butter etc. I'll never do it any other way.
I cook mine for an hour on low simmer, pour off the butter, refrig