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NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

Discussion in 'Nutrients' started by ProPheT 216, Feb 21, 2014.

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    Cletus clem

    Cletus clem Well-Known Member

    Hard to tell but the light looks a bit close? The tritons trawl wont really do much above the herc until flowering. Its great stuff. Demeters destiny will help with mag. I do add some epsom salts occasionally.
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    Sound advice. Light is 21" off top of plants. My temperature meter at that height to the light shows 81 at the top of the plant
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    Wish I could afford a lux meter but I can't at this time
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    Actually after looking at that picture, that was an early photo that just popped out of the ground and I did have it too close and dropped it down to the 21in
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    And ran light on my 250Watt setting.
     
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    Cletus clem

    Cletus clem Well-Known Member

    Keep in mind, its alot more than just canopy temp. That mh puts out some uv, a and b. That can stress a plant out without impacting canopy temp. Just something to think about.
     
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    Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

    Dear ol" Thankful Grower! Well-Known Member

    Herculean harvest throughout flushing and transition ? And also been using the bloom chaos but I keep getting potassium Defiency so I switched to using liquid seaweed extract as a foliar but I was wanting to use something to help flush during transition any feedback welcomed
     
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    Cletus clem

    Cletus clem Well-Known Member

    Bloom khaos can de dangerous if not used properly. And its not a potassium deficiency, its more likely calcium. BK is a calcium facilitator, it makes the plant want calcium. Before sing it, you need to make sure you have a good reserve of calcium and more to come. The foliar recipe is 5ml per litre. You need to be watering in at least 30ml/gal. I usually only use it in flower and am running herculean harvest, demeters destiny, persephones palate, aphrodites extraction and tritons trawl. I do the foliar BK only on feed days and apply after i have fed to be sure there is plenty of calcium there for them. I dont know what you mean by transition. To me, there is flowering, or veg. The first 3 weeks of flower is basically veg nutes with a little kick. BK foliar for the first 2 weeks, water in 15ml/gal after that. Flushing with nftg is not what people typically refer to as flushing. Usually when talking about flushing, youre basically cutting nute for the last 2 weeks or however long so that the plant cannabilizes itself. (Spelling? Meh) with nftg, flushing is done throughout the grow, veg and flower, and is to rid the root zone of any built up salts and bring the ph into the 6s. Bacteria breaking down cellulose results in acid, the acid accumulates, your ph drops. Feed, feed, tea, feed, feed, flush is howthey suggest to run the line but whatever works for you. Oregons constant gardener on youtube has many great videos going in detail about how to run the line. Earlier in this thread i posted a presentation by scott ostrander, owner of the company going over each bottle. Hope this helps.
     
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    Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

    Dear ol" Thankful Grower! Well-Known Member

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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    Had not thought about intensity of the UV...maybe I will go cfl next go round when starting out... didn't have any here when I started...also I made an error by using nutes straight out like the feed schedule said, just ph'd H2O for first 2-3 weeks...this is my first time doing this nute line, and autos. Lessons learned, and mistakes avoided next run.
     
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    Slyness41

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    I am a research junky...lol
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    Yea the prices here in Oregon ( clearly) are awesome, its 9 bucks for the quart of herc. And it goes a LONG ways with the recommended doses as far as I have seen so far, new to their stuff, but seems to be good. And Cletus knows hiz shit, so he's a great resource for assistance. My mag def. has been getting better after a herc flush and then demeters in h2o only...plants are probably stunted though as I started my seedlings off with nutez instead of just phd water....
     
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    Cletus clem

    Cletus clem Well-Known Member

    Using nutes or not with seedlings actually really depends on your media. If using straight coco, coco/perlite or promix nutes are needed pretty quickly. Nftg is generally pretty forgiving so if using a pretty neutral growing media feed away. Mag def can be common around weeks 4-6, even more so with nftg if they havnt been herc flushed yet. The demeters will take time to work so keep up on it. Dont be afraid to hittem with a little epsom salts. Are you using any microbe products or aact?
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    I am using nectars #4 mix.
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    No microbes, I CAN however get free Gal. Every Friday of tea from my grow shop, should I use that??
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    I will also continue the demeters then, and go back to nutes when next watering is due, been 4 days since last nute feed, so they will I'm sure be wanting more...probably tomorrow or next day. Here's my biggest one, its my blueberry.
    They are 2.5 weeks old at this point...look proper a or too small????
     

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    Cletus clem

    Cletus clem Well-Known Member

    I would most def use that. Saves you the effort of brewing it.
    They look great!
     
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    Slyness41

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    Glad you didnt say uh oh....lol yea, I will get some free tea too!!
    I figured they were about right, the sweet tooth is super small, thinking it might be a dwarf strain...was a free seed..
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    Hey Clem, question:
    When following the NFTG schedule, they have me mix into a gallon of water. How long does each gallon go for? I cannot use up a gallon in a week, plus add my tea and a water in between without badly overwatering....is the nectar schedule being thought as a two weeks per early veg, mid veg, etc and not figured as one week?? I want to follow their schedule, but it isnt clear how long each segment for mixing is for.
     
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    Slyness41

    Slyness41 Member

    Tried to hit nectar up directly, but they never answered.
     

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