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Newbie breeder, Any tips

Discussion in 'Breeders Paradise' started by Jay7t5, Nov 25, 2017.

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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    So I got myself some bodhi seeds blueberry hashplants and sunshine daydream, I had a few sunshine daydream males I picked 1 Which actually fooled me in the beginning when I didn't know how to sex a plant in veg mode and put it in my assumed female group until flower to my surprise it was a male!!,bushiest shortest male I've seen could have been a heshe lol so I collected the pollen and pollinated my psychosis female and now got my first batch of seeds and want to know should i be ripening them should I wait for a few weeks to harden off and what would this be known as?a IBL F1 S1 this is where im confused, Also is this the best way to get top genetics? Thanks in advance
     

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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member

    nice hybrid ! the seeds viability and performance will be determined by the health and conditions of the space you grew the parents in as well as those two awesome strains you've bred. good room controls+good strains=good offspring
     
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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    Cheers,I fancy them 2 myself lol I got Spot on conditions my friend, never over 60 humidity never under 40 and my temps are 78 day 68 night,using LED so I want the temps nearer 80 , I have extraction also so conditions are good so I got high hopes
     
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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    The female psychosis don't give much of yield wether it's a 5gallon or a 3 gallon it's just the stinkiest strongest strain I've ever grown And I've grown since 2008 on and off had her in 2010 still going strong, I am hoping that the yield trait's will pass on from the sunshine daydream and the odour of psychosis, I doubt that will happen but it keeps me interested in breeding my different keepers, blueberry hashplant has to be my next contender, do you know what can I expect from a hybrid will it be 50/50 straight down the middle? thanks
     
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    evergreengardener

    evergreengardener Well-Known Member

    This is not a bad way if you have the time but you could get garbage even when crossing 2 great strains. If you just learned to sex plants you probably shouldnt be chucking pollen yet IMO. There is a big difference in a pollen chucker and a breeder you my good sir fall into the first category
     
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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    Yes I am aware I'm a pollen chucker mate I should hang my head in shame lol I dont think there's any logic to that comment tho my friend if I just learned how to sex a plant i shouldn't be pollen chucking?? There are no rules to what you should do but there are guidelines That's the beauty of home growing you try new Thing's see what works for you and I think you miss understood me, I stated i only Just learned to sex a plant during the 6 week veg period without sticking them to 12/12 to wait for them to show, I have always used femanised seeds until a few months ago, I just wanted to know what trait's would come through with a hybrid will i get the odour of the psychosis over the SSDD Will the trait's From sunshine daydream bushy af male come through?, how do you go about breeding then mate? Is the giberelic or colodial a better way? Thanks
     
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    LostInEthereal

    LostInEthereal Well-Known Member

    IBL = Inbred Line. I think most breeders call strains IBL after 5 or 6 filial generations
    F1, F2 = Filial generation. It means the amount of times of successive cross from original hybridization.
    S1 = Selfed offspring. So a female plant made to generate male flowers then used to produce offspring with itself is an S1.

    There's a good book by Robert C Clarke called "Marijuana Botany" you might want to pick up.
     
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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    Update: I had 36 seeds in total from 3 buds I pollinated using the amount a size of a small screw head, no wonder these seed breeder's make so much money ,if I had more pollen i was gonna pollinate a few branches lucky i didn't lol
     

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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    Nice 1 good explanation there mate ,
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    I'm in a similar situation, I just got my start a little ahead of you. I had one intentional and one accidental pollination (from excellent strains) in the last year or so, and I've been playing with the results. Chucking pollen is fun, and best kept without expectations. Actual breeding takes time and room, a perpetual grow with cloning areas etc. etc. etc. Anything short of that leaves a whole lot of the process up to chance.

    I think it's best if you know from the outset what your goals are. If you are just looking to have some fun and pop some F1's and smoke the results as a one-off, then you're good to go. If you grow a single male and hit a female or two and then hope to go F2 and beyond -- by the time you are curing the F2 bud most of a year has gone by since you started, and since you did not choose your best male and best female from a large pool -- by default you have chosen them randomly.

    As has been said, even the best strains when crossed will sometimes come up with duds, so good parents are not enough to guarantee excellence in a cross. When you go to make your F2's and you pick a couple of seeds out of the F1 group (which is by nature a sort of fruit salad of different pheno's) hoping to get at least one male and one female from your limited germination, you are by the nature of the process making blind genetic choices. You could accidentally pick the best two, that would be lucky. And if you do get lucky -- but you did not make clones of those plants -- the next time you pick two seeds from the pile of F1's the chances of repeating that luck are pretty small.

    So it comes down to how much time and room do you have in your grow space for rolling the dice? I'm not trying to discourage you, but it's kind of like scratch off lottery tickets, you might get lucky, just don't buy a ticket if you are counting on it being a winner. :)

    Just my $.02 and I'm nobody.
     
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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    Excellent advice there my friend, I actually did grow 4 males of sunshine daydream and I picked the bushiest shortest 1 as it fooled me thinking it's a Female until i learned to sex a plant in veg mode, I have always used the same female psychosis as I only had 1 cutting year's ago and it haven't lost its oomph lol I have Just soaked 2 and 1 of them has germinated after 3 week's From harvest, excited now lol
     
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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    I am fucking fuming got to the end of flowering and just realized my sunshine daydream is a Hermie or i pollinated it by accident which is very doubtful as I segregated it for a week sprayed the pollinated plant down with Water and put back in the grow room, and the amount of pollen wouldn't give me as many budsites with seed's, I have another in there with no pollenating taking place,if this is a Hermie i am going to give bodhi seeds my honest opinion,the sunshine daydream don't smell that good but stoned writing this lol
     
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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    Any tips?
    Change your avatar. It's disgusting.
     
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    Jay7t5

    Jay7t5 Well-Known Member

    Lol it's not meant to be a photo to please you so no can do
     

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