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new grow northern light

Discussion in 'LED and other Lighting' started by 68grasshopper, Aug 13, 2017 at 11:12 AM.

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    68grasshopper

    68grasshopper Active Member

    im gonna be buying a couple of these next friday, £350.00 each ,stunning looking light
    3x3 light coverage at 60cm. 250w draw at the wall
    really looking forward to having them in my room. any thoughts on these ??
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    nogod_

    nogod_ Well-Known Member

    96x xpg3/xte(he)/xpe photo red combo per their IG

    For $450? Keep us posted these look pretty great.
     
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    CobKits

    CobKits Well-Known Member Rollitup Advertiser

    thats a nice lookin light
     
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    tstick

    tstick Well-Known Member

    fan cooled? or passive?
     
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    68grasshopper

    68grasshopper Active Member

    passive cooled buddy.
     
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    Randomblame

    Randomblame Well-Known Member

    Looks as they orient themselves at Cree's hps replacement design!
    Nice looking unit but probably not as efficient as COB's or QB's.
    The price seems okay, considering the price for XP-G3 / XT-E HE's...
    But would rather build my own light for better/more even light distribution.
    It would be better to separate the 8 modules and attach them to a frame similar to the SanLight M30 modules.
    BTW,
    the heatsink looks monster heavy and could probably handle much more power with a bit air movement...
     
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    68grasshopper

    68grasshopper Active Member

    @Randomblame yea...prob would be better with seperate modules. you will be able to update these as and when ...apparently
     
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    68grasshopper

    68grasshopper Active Member

    from grownorthern instagram
    grownorthernA first look at the business end of the GN-Telos-0008. We spent a long time developing these secondary optics. They have a transmission efficiency of 93% and there is absolutely no damaging hot spots in the distribution. All of the gaskets that provide the high IP66 rating are all premoulded pressure seals. No adhesives and no potting making the Telos LED modules and optics interchangeable and upgradable.
    The GN-Telos-0008 is going to be available from launch in 2 enhanced full spectrum variations and we will also have a classic monochromatic (burple) variation available on request. We are going to be using all the latest gen parts from CREE including the XPG3, XTE (he) and the current best deep/photo red in the industry the XPEEPR-CO1/ flux bin 29.
    The GN-Telos-0008; a 250w, solid state, IP66 LED lighting solution with a compact form factor & a highly homogeneous and efficient light intensity distribution.
     
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    Randomblame

    Randomblame Well-Known Member

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    68grasshopper

    68grasshopper Active Member

    cant find one at min, will mail them tomorrow and find out.
     
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    Randomblame

    Randomblame Well-Known Member

    Do this, it would be interesting to see how uniform the illumination is actually.
    As a rule, the corners get significantly less light when using a point light source.
    But maybe the lenses can do it indeed?
    Hope you can get one!
     
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    68grasshopper

    68grasshopper Active Member

    i mailed them mon and still no reply ........
     
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    Budies 101

    Budies 101 Active Member

    Seems ok. There are a few things I don't like that LED companies do, like it's a small light. 4x4 4x8 4xanything is pretty normal space so when I see 3x3 I can't find a use for it in my space. The price is decent considering it's not top of the line, the fixture makes it look the best imo but again for me it simply wouldn't work. LED are not HPS, HPS are wildly inefficient for many reasons so building a LED like a HPS seems to me to be creating some of the same issues of HPS.

    Focus the LEDs with lenses and you lose spread...
    Raise the LEDs to widen the spread and you lose PAR
    Lose the PAR you need more lights
    Needing more lights costs even more money
    More lights is more heat and more watts
    More watts means you're less efficient
    Less efficient and what's the point of going with LED?

    A super thin profile light that covers a solid 2x4 is my goal. That should fit over any 4xanything grow while not eating up your vertical space with a giant fixture.

    In all I'm sure like most lights it will grow better than most growers skill allows... But again the design seems random and not built for what I have come to know as the standard grow space.

    Just my thoughts =D
     
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    dabby duck

    dabby duck Member

    How many lights are certified for a greenhouse?

    The price point alone surpasses a ton of expectations for a good cert.....ask any pro grower or whatever....I have seen very few commercial grows because of cert, LED that is, but it isn't for lack of want.....
     
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    Budies 101

    Budies 101 Active Member

    what is "cert"?
     
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    Mohican

    Mohican Well-Known Member

    Certified for use in a greenhouse. Need to be waterproof.
     
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    dabby duck

    dabby duck Member

    Greenhouse or indoor growing certification standards for safety
    ie
    IP66
    IP67


    IP66 Protected from total dust ingress. Protected from high pressure water jets from any direction.
    IP67 Protected from total dust ingress. Protected from immersion between 15 centimeters and 1 meter in depth.

    http://www.dsmt.com/resources/ip-rating-chart/
     
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    nogod_

    nogod_ Well-Known Member

    That fixture is pretty damn close to top of the line. They spared no expense with regards to what emitters they chose and what appears to be a solid build quality. If you were to buy the parts from rapidled and try to build it yourself you'd spend over $300 on the emitters alone.

    I agree that 3x3 is an odd basket to load all your eggs in but it isnt intended for the american market and i imagine there are more than a few m^2 tents in the uk/eu

    You never lose PAR by raising the lamp if you have optics, you simply spread your photons over a larger area. You also dont magically lose efficiency if you need more firepower to effectively light your space. This light is as efficient with 1ct in a 3x3 as it is with 1100ct in a 10000sqft greenhouse or warehouse.

    Either way it may not be what youre looking for (it isnt for me either) but its a pretty nice piece of lobsterback craftsmanship.

    To be honest i dont understand why every light in the US market isnt a single modular 2x2 design that is easily daisy-chained and scalable.

     
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    Budies 101

    Budies 101 Active Member

    So QB's without a cover over the led's can't be used on a commercial indoor grow?
     
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    dabby duck

    dabby duck Member

    Probably....no way it matches 66 or 67....and its probably more than just a cover over the diodes...its also waterproofing or covering solder trace routes, securing plugs and hardware so that moisture aka condesation doesn't collect inside or on a metal surface etc etc....lots too it for liability....indoor grows by the books just have a different standard than somebodies closet, at least you hope....lol. :joint: :joint:
     
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