Neem killed my babies , i need urgent advice

Aacis

Aacis

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this was my first time growing and i messed up badly
I applied neem oil to my plants because they started to get some bugs (white fly mainly) , they where super healthy before this happened
My plants are Auto flowering , all of them where flowering
Black JH was 3 weeks into flowering
Sugar black rose was 3 weeks also into flowering
Lowryder easy Ryder had 1 week flowering

the day after i sprayed the plants all the buds on my plants where burnt *see attached pictures)
then the next day alll the leaves started to fall off and they presented sings of burning

my question is what should i do they are dying slowly and now i don't know when to harvest (if possible) this was my first grow and the reason i was growing was because i have cancer and i cant afford cannabis from a store, please guys any tips or recommendations on the topic i would be greatly thankful

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this where before the neem oil

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Dr.Pecker

Dr.Pecker

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Aacis said:
this was my first time growing and i messed up badly
I applied neem oil to my plants because they started to get some bugs (white fly mainly) , they where super healthy before this happened
My plants are Auto flowering , all of them where flowering
Black JH was 3 weeks into flowering
Sugar black rose was 3 weeks also into flowering
Lowryder easy Ryder had 1 week flowering

the day after i sprayed the plants all the buds on my plants where burnt *see attached pictures)
then the next day alll the leaves started to fall off and they presented sings of burning

my question is what should i do they are dying slowly and now i don't know when to harvest (if possible) this was my first grow and the reason i was growing was because i have cancer and i cant afford cannabis from a store, please guys any tips or recommendations on the topic i would be greatly thankful

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You cant spray during the day sunlight and neem is a no no.
this plant looks under watered.
 
fandango

fandango

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The neem mixture was too strong here...now cut off the bad tips and dead leaf.lift the pot and fell it's weight?start over on your nute feedings...1/4 dose...water...1/2 dose...water.They will get strong again.
 
Aacis

Aacis

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thank you guys for answering in such tragic times
Dr.Pecker said:
You cant spray during the day sunlight and neem is a no no.
this plant looks under watered.
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i actually used it right after dusk , i pretty sure it was to much neem i followed the instructions on the box (Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil) hmm you think it does? it always looked droopy even after water or before.. but it was totally green ... actually when i had the bugs this one had none


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fandango said:
The neem mixture was too strong here...now cut off the bad tips and dead leaf.lift the pot and fell it's weight?start over on your nute feedings...1/4 dose...water...1/2 dose...water.They will get strong again.
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i never used nute feeding, i just used fox farm ocean floor mixed with light warrior think i should do it now?

Bugeye said:
I'm not sure what to tell you, sort of a tough time to have that happen. A couple don't look too bad so rinse them off and keep them out of direct sunshine for a couple days.
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out of direct sunshine you mean like on a window or something?


also guys what im worried about is that one of them seem close to harvest (photo down here ) i mean they are ruderalis should i harvest them as soon as they get better if they do and what if they don't should i harvest them? its impossible to me to actually see because all the milky tendrils are now burnt , so thats another concern when should i harvest thank you for your answers!
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mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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Aacis said:
thank you guys for answering in such tragic times


i actually used it right after dusk , i pretty sure it was to much neem i followed the instructions on the box (Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil) hmm you think it does? it always looked droopy even after water or before.. but it was totally green ... actually when i had the bugs this one had none


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i never used nute feeding, i just used fox farm ocean floor mixed with light warrior think i should do it now?


out of direct sunshine you mean like on a window or something?


also guys what im worried about is that one of them seem close to harvest (photo down here ) i mean they are ruderalis should i harvest them as soon as they get better if they do and what if they don't should i harvest them? its impossible to me to actually see because all the milky tendrils are now burnt , so thats another concern when should i harvest thank you for your answers!
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17 more days.
 
Joe Blows Trees

Joe Blows Trees

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I had 5 plants do the same thing when I sprayed neem oil to combat fungus gnats. I flushed them and they started to recover, but I lost so much foliage, it'll take a long time for them to start really growing again as the leaves store up their energy and food. I have since been searching for other ways to combat insects.
 
Dr.Pecker

Dr.Pecker

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I agree rinse them off
Aacis said:
thank you guys for answering in such tragic times


i actually used it right after dusk , i pretty sure it was to much neem i followed the instructions on the box (Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil) hmm you think it does? it always looked droopy even after water or before.. but it was totally green ... actually when i had the bugs this one had none


[


i never used nute feeding, i just used fox farm ocean floor mixed with light warrior think i should do it now?


out of direct sunshine you mean like on a window or something?


also guys what im worried about is that one of them seem close to harvest (photo down here ) i mean they are ruderalis should i harvest them as soon as they get better if they do and what if they don't should i harvest them? its impossible to me to actually see because all the milky tendrils are now burnt , so thats another concern when should i harvest thank you for your answers!
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Giving your circumstances you should step it up. Try some photoperiod plants. If that droopy plant is watered then you should check the roots something is definitely wrong with it. Repotting ruderalis will slow it down and is not recommended. upload_2015-9-28_15-13-30.jpeg
 
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wiethe20

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I went three the same thing, but I realized what the hell I did wrong and washed most of it off BUT it does look like yours got burnt with lighting etc....BUT a big thing is you need to emulsify the neem and water, preferably with dawn dish soap...because the neem oil is so thick (dawn dish cuts oil better then most soaps, that's why I bathe in it when I get poison ivy!) But it will suffocate your plant, starting with your leaves!
 
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wiethe20

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And just don't flush, it's a big argument in the mj community, maybe one of the biggest Givin wrong information
 
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wiethe20

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I'm not saying it can't be beneficial, but evvvvery time someone has a problem first thing...FLUSH...sorry but that can hurt your plants too!
 
*BUDS

*BUDS

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Don't use neem oil outdoor, when the sun hits the leaves they burn up because they have oil on them. Just let them go now , see what you get and learn from this mistake.
 
Aacis

Aacis

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hotrodharley said:
Were these outside?If not do you have any kind of HID or good LED light for them?
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no, just the sun

Joe Blows Trees said:
I had 5 plants do the same thing when I sprayed neem oil to combat fungus gnats. I flushed them and they started to recover, but I lost so much foliage, it'll take a long time for them to start really growing again as the leaves store up their energy and food. I have since been searching for other ways to combat insects.
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at what point of the plant life where you in when that happened?

Dr.Pecker said:
I agree rinse them off

Giving your circumstances you should step it up. Try some photoperiod plants. If that droopy plant is watered then you should check the roots something is definitely wrong with it. Repotting ruderalis will slow it down and is not recommended. View attachment 3510013
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well thing is i cant really grow inside due to the cost of it. and photo period (im guessing you mean non ruderalis) at this time of year (im in southern cali) im not sure what would happen to them)

wiethe20 said:
I went three the same thing, but I realized what the hell I did wrong and washed most of it off BUT it does look like yours got burnt with lighting etc....BUT a big thing is you need to emulsify the neem and water, preferably with dawn dish soap...because the neem oil is so thick (dawn dish cuts oil better then most soaps, that's why I bathe in it when I get poison ivy!) But it will suffocate your plant, starting with your leaves!
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yeah learned it the hard way and i actually did used dish soap but im pretty sure it was a lot of neem,

*BUDS said:
Don't use neem oil outdoor, when the sun hits the leaves they burn up because they have oil on them. Just let them go now , see what you get and learn from this mistake.
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well the buds on 2 of them still smell really good and and seem to continue growing so im not ready to trow them away




The main reason i made this post was because im not sure when to harvest them i could post a close up from each plant so you guys could help me determine that?
i also had 4 new 2 week old plants and neem oil burned them to , they seem to start recovering but i feel like a week was wasted in the process and since these are ruderalis im not sure if i should trow them away or see what happen with the small ones to.
 
Joe Blows Trees

Joe Blows Trees

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Aacis said:
no, just the sun



at what point of the plant life where you in when that happened?



well thing is i cant really grow inside due to the cost of it. and photo period (im guessing you mean non ruderalis) at this time of year (im in southern cali) im not sure what would happen to them)



yeah learned it the hard way and i actually did used dish soap but im pretty sure it was a lot of neem,



well the buds on 2 of them still smell really good and and seem to continue growing so im not ready to trow them away




The main reason i made this post was because im not sure when to harvest them i could post a close up from each plant so you guys could help me determine that?
i also had 4 new 2 week old plants and neem oil burned them to , they seem to start recovering but i feel like a week was wasted in the process and since these are ruderalis im not sure if i should trow them away or see what happen with the small ones to.
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5 weeks into veg is when I sprayed neem oil on my ladies and nearly killed them. I put 6 outside and they're doing better now and the rest have since recovered and will be placed into flowering friday. The 6 outside were the ones in the worst condition.
 
Aacis

Aacis

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well guys everything seems to be recovering now somehow.. even the seedlings they just started growing really fast ... my only concern now is when to harvest i guess ill wait more week to see if things clear up
 
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