need help with airflow in stealth cabinet.

Hello everyone. I'm new to this site and I've been looking at other threads and let me just say y'all are brilliant. My question is I'm setting up a cabinet grow with cfls, ffof soil and ff nutes, I would like to place four computer fans in my box just to mix up the air. My intake and air out are fine. How many fans can I place on one power cord. and I have 3 42 watt 2700k bulbs and 3 6400k bulbs. Would that be ok for flowering and vegging. Any help would be great. I've never had a grow this small and am confused....
 

SOMEBEECH

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Hello everyone. I'm new to this site and I've been looking at other threads and let me just say y'all are brilliant. My question is I'm setting up a cabinet grow with cfls, ffof soil and ff nutes, I would like to place four computer fans in my box just to mix up the air. My intake and air out are fine. How many fans can I place on one power cord. and I have 3 42 watt 2700k bulbs and 3 6400k bulbs. Would that be ok for flowering and vegging. Any help would be great. I've never had a grow this small and am confused....
Welcome to RIU,might get more advise in the CFL thread have never flowered with cfls just check cord for heat if its HOT when alls on get another cord.Can you not use 2 cords 1 for lights and the other for the fans?IMO you should be fine tho.
 

420greendream

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hey kushman welcome, a little more information would be helpful. whats the size of the cabinet and how many plants do u plan on growing?
 

umbrellacorp

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Are you good with wiring? Im powering fans and cfl's from a pc power supply. Piggybacked a 6plug strip on the AC power with timer, and fans are wired to the DC harness coming out. The fans are on 24/7 this way, and theres only 1 cord to plug in.
 
The cabinet is 5ft high, 4 ft wide, 3ft deep. I only want two plants in there. Both will be indica I can use more than two cords I just don't like a bunch of wires. ( I'm always paranoid of fire risks) I would like to have both my exhaust fans and my single intake on one cord and my four fans that circulate air on one cord. I just don't want to overload any plugs or circuits. I'll be making my own hood from sheet metal. And running all my lights on one surge protector.
 
I'm not the best with electrical. umbrella corp. I can do minor wiring but what you got going is out of my league. Brilliant though if I may say.
 

umbrellacorp

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I'm not the best with electrical. umbrella corp. I can do minor wiring but what you got going is out of my league. Brilliant though if I may say.
Understandable, though its fairly simple. SOMEBEECH has the right idea, one for fans and one for lights. CFL's dont use much power at all. A PS3 sucks more power thru that little cord and doesn't get hot.
 

420greendream

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The cabinet is 5ft high, 4 ft wide, 3ft deep. I only want two plants in there. Both will be indica I can use more than two cords I just don't like a bunch of wires. ( I'm always paranoid of fire risks) I would like to have both my exhaust fans and my single intake on one cord and my four fans that circulate air on one cord. I just don't want to overload any plugs or circuits. I'll be making my own hood from sheet metal. And running all my lights on one surge protector.
ok in that case you need alot more light.
 
How much more light do you guys think I will need for a decent harvest. I don't want a hps in my cab due to heat problems. the state I live in is having a horably hot summer.
 

420greendream

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Do what I did, go to home depot and buy a bathroom light, 4 y socket adapters and buy as many cfls as u can fit on it. I'd say at least 200w to get a decent harvest.
 

Jogro

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How many fans can I place on one power cord.
I don't think you're asking the right question.

Computer fans typically run on 12V DC (though virtually all of them can be run on lower voltage, if you like).

So the question is how many computer fans can you place on one AC to 12V DC ADAPTER?

The answer is, each fan has its own power draw in amps (which is likely written on the fan itself).

The total power draw of all the fans together should not exceed the amperage power rating of the AC adapter you're using to power them.

In other words, if your adapter is rated for 2 amps (which is typical), and your fans are rated for 0.25amps each (which is typical), then you can run up to 8 of them on that adapter. Of course you can run less than the maximum too.

If you do the math, you'll see that these computer fans typically only draw about 3 watts each.

I have 3 42 watt 2700k bulbs and 3 6400k bulbs. Would that be ok for flowering and vegging. Any help would be great. I've never had a grow this small and am confused....
So you have 252 watts total power spread over 6 fluorescent bulbs?

You're not going to grow any "trees" so to speak, with that amount of light, but certainly 250 watts of fluorescent should be enough to cover 3 square feet of flowering canopy. That's perfectly fine for two small plants.

If you're only using three bulbs (of your six) at a time, figure one small plant.

If you can use reflectors to maximize light onto your plant, do so.

If you can train your plant to get maximum budding sites under your lights (ie create a "canopy") then do so.
 

Jogro

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The cabinet is 5ft high, 4 ft wide, 3ft deep
So that's 12 square feet of potential "canopy" you need to light.

You certainly can grow good plants under 250W fluorescent, but if your goal is to completely fill that space, then 250W of fluorescent isn't really going to cut it.

As a sort of rule of thumb, figure optimal lighting is 50W/sqft using HID lighting, or 70W/sqft using fluorescent lighting (assuming good reflectors). If you do the math, you'll see pretty quickly why larger growers tend to avoid fluorescent lighting!

So ideally, for a space that large, you'd want a 600W HPS, though you could certainly get away with less.

With 5 feet in height to play with, you might consider subdividing the space into separate flowering and veg/seed/clone areas.

. I only want two plants in there. Both will be indica I can use more than two cords I just don't like a bunch of wires. ( I'm always paranoid of fire risks) I would like to have both my exhaust fans and my single intake on one cord and my four fans that circulate air on one cord. I just don't want to overload any plugs or circuits. I'll be making my own hood from sheet metal. And running all my lights on one surge protector.

Two plants is fine, so long as you understand that they probably won't fill up all your space.

What creates fire risk isn't the number of wires per se, its how they are run. Keep all electrical circuits up off the floor of your cab so water can't get on them.

Don't overload your transformers, and don't overload your circuit breakers. A few hundred watts probably won't do this. . .but it depends on whether or not anything else is being run on the same circuit in your growing area (ie any other appliances, etc).

Computer fans draw very little juice, they're not really a risk unless you way overload the DC transformer. I think its perfectly fine to run all your fans from one transformer, again, so long as it provides enough current.
 
Thank you everyone. Amazing info very detailed. Just got the cabinet up and running today. Used 100% indica strains one is true purple Kush and la confidential. Both will be trained and bent to make a full canopy. All the bottom branches will be removed below the canopy. Just Nice Colas. I'm hoping for at least 2Oz per plant. Any More would be a dream. I also seen 100 true watt cfls thinking about running 6 6500k for vegging and 6 2700k for flowering. I also made my own reflector using Mylar so I can run 8 bulbs. But my plants seem to be growing great with the 42 Watters.
 
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