Need help on a unique child custody case involving a Med Marijuana patient in Oregon

Bryguy420

Active Member
Hello, it isw me again. Some of you are aware that I got busted for a small medical grow about 3 months back that wasn't quiet medical, yet. I was a week away from getting my medical refferall when my 3 year old son drug a wooden chair across the house, unbolted the dead bolt on my front door, pried open the child proof lock, and went for a midnight stroll while we were asleep. DHS will tell you that this happens to more people than they care to admit, except that when the police brought him back, I was found from my 3 pot plants.

I served 6 days in county jail and recieved a bench probation with no po and no random uas. Also my defence attorney worked out for me with the DA that I could get my medical card while I was on probation so that if I did smoke marijuana, it wouldn't be illegally. I then recieved my medical marijuana card a week later for involuntary muscle spasms.

Case closed.


Not quiet.


Ok, here is were the real questions come in. All of this was just back story.

I am now 4 months into the ordeal. DHS still has custody of my children. Visititions are just barely working out. My children have cases of "explosive ringworms", burns, fleas, and scars since they've left our care.

The courts (Now juvinile court hearings for custody, not cuircit court.) Just seen us for our second hearing. This is where things got interesting. I introduced to my lawyer that I have a medical card, when she asked me if I cleaned up my urine since the last time I seen her. Instead of peeing illegally, I told her I got my OMMP. She then took this to the DHS people and they introduced the idea that they are not sure just how much THC is allowed to be used by one person at one time.

They wanted to know how much THC my doctor had prescribed me. I told them I wasn't sure. So my attorney left again and by the time she came back, she worked out a plea bargain (type thing) with the DHS saying that

I would sign releases of information
(So that they could find out the doctor that prescribed me medical marijuana and I'm assuming to find out from him how much THC should I be measuribly be using for my condition without it being considered recreational or "substance abuse".

Next that I would take Random UAs

Now they want to make sure and monitor my THC levels. This is the wierdest thing. I'm taking UAs to prove that I AM using marijuana, not that I am not using it. They want to monitor (and fuck up for me). Also, they want to figure out how much THC through UAs is enough to satisfy a medical condition or if I am using as substance abuse. When i asked DHS what they considered acceptible, they responded 250. I was like WTF!!!

Like, how can I measure how much THC I'm intaking from one herb to another nug? From one hash to another space cake? This puts me out of going to the cannabis cafe in downtown portland anytime soon too, as that was a favorite of mine to hang at (still is for $5 a entry)

I have tons more to write butI'll post more as it comes to me. I'm open to suggestions and comments. I'll be blogging about this here for awhile. DHS came into my home (just my caseworker) 3 days later. I finally let him in (because now they knew I'm medical) and they pretty much just used this as an excuse to see my clean house, but to also steal a peek at my garden. He said he had never seen a fully operational grow op before.

I cut him off in midsentence and interjected with "I prefer the term "Medicinal Manufacturing Facility". It was interesting how that worked out, lol. But still, as I post more, give me more insight to this.

In Oregon, we have laws written to protect us from criminal prosicution, but not our children from DHS persicution if they find out you are medical.

DHS views OMMP as an excuse to be addicts. End of story.

I'm trying to prove, in court, that OMMP are both law abiding citizens and proud parents. Even if I was eager to grow before I had my card, and I started before I was legally able too, I paid my due and I only convicted of possesion. That doesn't make me a criminal and I never harmed my children. If my son ran out now, the police would just bring him back and say have a nice day. 4 months is too long, help me find theories that I can convince DHS that I am a capable parent that has learned from a one time mistake.
 

Dick Moser

Active Member
good luck and god bless. i cant suggest taking any bullshit deals from someone who has stolen your child but god bless you and your bro.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
whoah...

that's fucking crazy... i kinda busted your balls back then i think....

you need to get a specialist in family court. start up a paypal acct with a sad sounding name and start collecting funds for your court case, this will be EXPENSIVE.

go online and search every single reporter that works in stations near you and pitch them part of your story, you'll give the rest to whoever can guarantee prime time airing, make sure they'll allow you to mention the court cost fund thing....give them the name of your case worker, the judge, whoever sits on the other side who is keeping you from your kids.....

act like you want those kids back, don't spend your days complaining how much less you have to smoke....
 

Bryguy420

Active Member
I didnt get a choice in the deal, it was that or go to trial. i need a lawyer that knows about mmj laws in oregon. he would object to all of this. unfortunately i cannot afford that guy. my current defender doesnt believe in medical marijuana and she is disagreeing with my wants and shes pushing for alternative medicine when she should be objecting dhs involvement in procuring medical records. now im thinking i put my docs job on the line. i just want my babies. ive missed 2 birthdays and a christmas, enough is enough.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
I didnt get a choice in the deal, it was that or go to trial. i need a lawyer that knows about mmj laws in oregon. he would object to all of this. unfortunately i cannot afford that guy. my current defender doesnt believe in medical marijuana and she is disagreeing with my wants and shes pushing for alternative medicine when she should be objecting dhs involvement in procuring medical records. now im thinking i put my docs job on the line. i just want my babies. ive missed 2 birthdays and a christmas, enough is enough.
tell the laywer to go fuck herself, and then ask the judge to get you another lawyer.

tell the judge that you believe that lawyer is not looking out for your best interests, that she is dead set against medical marijuana, and because of that she canno give you the best representation.

make your case public and i'm sure more than one lawyer will do it pro-bono.....just for the free press...
 

canuckgrow

Well-Known Member
tell the laywer to go fuck herself, and then ask the judge to get you another lawyer.

tell the judge that you believe that lawyer is not looking out for your best interests, that she is dead set against medical marijuana, and because of that she canno give you the best representation.

make your case public and i'm sure more than one lawyer will do it pro-bono.....just for the free press...

I Second that.....This pisses me off to no end.....What is DHS stand for anyways? In Canada we have what we call CAS=Childrens Aid Society. If thoise fuckers are on your back it is pure hell......They tried to fuck with me over my unruly teenage daughter 3 years ago......If it were me I would also be looking at a lawsuit against them for mistreating my child...From the sounds of it the kids are in shitty conditions.....Fuck me I feel for you buddy wish I could help more.
 

WvMade

Well-Known Member
Damn man that sucks... sorry to hear =(

Give me 3oz's from your "Medicinal Manufacturing Facility". and i will personally go steal your kids and bring them back to you and stab the person mistreating your kids in the eye with a sadering rod!!! =D
 

mulalinda

New Member
Hello, it isw me again. Some of you are aware that I got busted for a small medical grow about 3 months back that wasn't quiet medical, yet. I was a week away from getting my medical refferall when my 3 year old son drug a wooden chair across the house, unbolted the dead bolt on my front door, pried open the child proof lock, and went for a midnight stroll while we were asleep. DHS will tell you that this happens to more people than they care to admit, except that when the police brought him back, I was found from my 3 pot plants.

I served 6 days in county jail and recieved a bench probation with no po and no random uas. Also my defence attorney worked out for me with the DA that I could get my medical card while I was on probation so that if I did smoke marijuana, it wouldn't be illegally. I then recieved my medical marijuana card a week later for involuntary muscle spasms.

Case closed.


Not quiet.


Ok, here is were the real questions come in. All of this was just back story.

I am now 4 months into the ordeal. DHS still has custody of my children. Visititions are just barely working out. My children have cases of "explosive ringworms", burns, fleas, and scars since they've left our care.

The courts (Now juvinile court hearings for custody, not cuircit court.) Just seen us for our second hearing. This is where things got interesting. I introduced to my lawyer that I have a medical card, when she asked me if I cleaned up my urine since the last time I seen her. Instead of peeing illegally, I told her I got my OMMP. She then took this to the DHS people and they introduced the idea that they are not sure just how much THC is allowed to be used by one person at one time.

They wanted to know how much THC my doctor had prescribed me. I told them I wasn't sure. So my attorney left again and by the time she came back, she worked out a plea bargain (type thing) with the DHS saying that

I would sign releases of information
(So that they could find out the doctor that prescribed me medical marijuana and I'm assuming to find out from him how much THC should I be measuribly be using for my condition without it being considered recreational or "substance abuse".

Next that I would take Random UAs

Now they want to make sure and monitor my THC levels. This is the wierdest thing. I'm taking UAs to prove that I AM using marijuana, not that I am not using it. They want to monitor (and fuck up for me). Also, they want to figure out how much THC through UAs is enough to satisfy a medical condition or if I am using as substance abuse. When i asked DHS what they considered acceptible, they responded 250. I was like WTF!!!

Like, how can I measure how much THC I'm intaking from one herb to another nug? From one hash to another space cake? This puts me out of going to the cannabis cafe in downtown portland anytime soon too, as that was a favorite of mine to hang at (still is for $5 a entry)

I have tons more to write butI'll post more as it comes to me. I'm open to suggestions and comments. I'll be blogging about this here for awhile. DHS came into my home (just my caseworker) 3 days later. I finally let him in (because now they knew I'm medical) and they pretty much just used this as an excuse to see my clean house, but to also steal a peek at my garden. He said he had never seen a fully operational grow op before.

I cut him off in midsentence and interjected with "I prefer the term "Medicinal Manufacturing Facility". It was interesting how that worked out, lol. But still, as I post more, give me more insight to this.

In Oregon, we have laws written to protect us from criminal prosicution, but not our children from DHS persicution if they find out you are medical.

DHS views OMMP as an excuse to be addicts. End of story.

I'm trying to prove, in court, that OMMP are both law abiding citizens and proud parents. Even if I was eager to grow before I had my card, and I started before I was legally able too, I paid my due and I only convicted of possesion. That doesn't make me a criminal and I never harmed my children. If my son ran out now, the police would just bring him back and say have a nice day. 4 months is too long, help me find theories that I can convince DHS that I am a capable parent that has learned from a one time mistake.
I was wondering how you and the kids made out?
This is all dumb. Someone needs to take the whole dhs to court and expose the fact that they are not in the business of return to parent. They are in the business of trying to keep the family members apart from the kids as long as possible. The things that happen and what they say in some cases are totally out of line. Never would I want a job that tries as hard as they can to keep parents from reuniting with their children just to make a buck?
 

justugh

Well-Known Member
Hello, it isw me again. Some of you are aware that I got busted for a small medical grow about 3 months back that wasn't quiet medical, yet. I was a week away from getting my medical refferall when my 3 year old son drug a wooden chair across the house, unbolted the dead bolt on my front door, pried open the child proof lock, and went for a midnight stroll while we were asleep. DHS will tell you that this happens to more people than they care to admit, except that when the police brought him back, I was found from my 3 pot plants.

I served 6 days in county jail and recieved a bench probation with no po and no random uas. Also my defence attorney worked out for me with the DA that I could get my medical card while I was on probation so that if I did smoke marijuana, it wouldn't be illegally. I then recieved my medical marijuana card a week later for involuntary muscle spasms.

Case closed.


Not quiet.


Ok, here is were the real questions come in. All of this was just back story.

I am now 4 months into the ordeal. DHS still has custody of my children. Visititions are just barely working out. My children have cases of "explosive ringworms", burns, fleas, and scars since they've left our care.

The courts (Now juvinile court hearings for custody, not cuircit court.) Just seen us for our second hearing. This is where things got interesting. I introduced to my lawyer that I have a medical card, when she asked me if I cleaned up my urine since the last time I seen her. Instead of peeing illegally, I told her I got my OMMP. She then took this to the DHS people and they introduced the idea that they are not sure just how much THC is allowed to be used by one person at one time.

They wanted to know how much THC my doctor had prescribed me. I told them I wasn't sure. So my attorney left again and by the time she came back, she worked out a plea bargain (type thing) with the DHS saying that

I would sign releases of information
(So that they could find out the doctor that prescribed me medical marijuana and I'm assuming to find out from him how much THC should I be measuribly be using for my condition without it being considered recreational or "substance abuse".

Next that I would take Random UAs

Now they want to make sure and monitor my THC levels. This is the wierdest thing. I'm taking UAs to prove that I AM using marijuana, not that I am not using it. They want to monitor (and fuck up for me). Also, they want to figure out how much THC through UAs is enough to satisfy a medical condition or if I am using as substance abuse. When i asked DHS what they considered acceptible, they responded 250. I was like WTF!!!

Like, how can I measure how much THC I'm intaking from one herb to another nug? From one hash to another space cake? This puts me out of going to the cannabis cafe in downtown portland anytime soon too, as that was a favorite of mine to hang at (still is for $5 a entry)

I have tons more to write butI'll post more as it comes to me. I'm open to suggestions and comments. I'll be blogging about this here for awhile. DHS came into my home (just my caseworker) 3 days later. I finally let him in (because now they knew I'm medical) and they pretty much just used this as an excuse to see my clean house, but to also steal a peek at my garden. He said he had never seen a fully operational grow op before.

I cut him off in midsentence and interjected with "I prefer the term "Medicinal Manufacturing Facility". It was interesting how that worked out, lol. But still, as I post more, give me more insight to this.

In Oregon, we have laws written to protect us from criminal prosicution, but not our children from DHS persicution if they find out you are medical.

DHS views OMMP as an excuse to be addicts. End of story.

I'm trying to prove, in court, that OMMP are both law abiding citizens and proud parents. Even if I was eager to grow before I had my card, and I started before I was legally able too, I paid my due and I only convicted of possesion. That doesn't make me a criminal and I never harmed my children. If my son ran out now, the police would just bring him back and say have a nice day. 4 months is too long, help me find theories that I can convince DHS that I am a capable parent that has learned from a one time mistake.
this is a bunch of crap to get your money

1 order something called Cidex ......they use Hemp oil with CBDs this is 100% legal and will mess up the states test unless they are lab testing for THC-9a that is the chemical that comes out from THC but if they are using the cheap cannabinoid test it will be a false positive.........u tell them u are taken Cidex as herbal supplement to diet .......they have to pay for the more exp testing
CBDs are unclassified and they are the medical use in weed u are taken a source that is not linked to THC

2 head to your local rehab place and do a intake ..........answer the ?s honestly look them in the eye when u answer their ?s and tell them the story .........they will look at u and odds are say u are not a addicted and do not need rehab (this happen to me ) they even wrote me a letter to the lawyer/court saying i was not a addict and should be allowed to use weed for medical reason .......her letter gave me a defense i could legally use in court because of that my charges were dropped to simple poss and charge/time nothing just stay out of court system for a year and it is gone

3 your lawyer if u need one that knows the laws look up in norml
http://norml.org/
they will have a list of lawyers for your state that are login with them so they should know all the rules and pending rules for your state on weed

4 the DHS ppl are going to pop out with all kinds of paperwork and reviews of cases with similar subject..........i hate to do this to the kid but u need to take him to your doctors and have a report written up by someone that just has child welfare in mind not save your kid or take your kid ..........this will help save the kid showing he/she are happy healthy well adjusted and on developmental markers ....fresh paperwork from respectable doctor ......regular doctor and the quack doctors maybe a child development /family addiction doctor

5 family and friends that are willing to stand up and speak on your behalf in court .....u want to show as close as possible to a typical family with good values
 
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