Need Dr to sign for ACMPR in toronto !

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noperuiy

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Im in need to find Dr in toronto or around who could sign for min 30gpd , i need it for juice/ dab badly . My doc not friendly at all to sign,i had brain injury due to motorcycle accident in 1997. im willing to pay for it, if any one can help , please give me shout ,any help would appreciat3 !
Thanks .
 
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1Youngog

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I'm in the same boat ,maybe somebody can help us out hopefully .any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
 
buckets

buckets

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My best suggestions and believe me I contacted a lot of them all over Canada is to go and try MRCRI in Vancouver as well as Do no harm based in Kelowna BC. Both I am told will match existing MMAR permits if you have those. Many other places the doctors are reducing permits which is retarded. You can expect to pay $500-$1000 depending on the amount per day you seek. You guys need to decide if you will be growing your own, finding a designated grower, wanting to grow indoors and outdoors or not, if you'e growing your own, and the other option of finding an LP. Choice is up to you. Know how much you need and be ready to justify it. Health Canada doesn't accept juicing as a good reason so know about oils and edibles and how much you need to make them is my suggestion. Best of luck with it.
 
CalyxCrusher

CalyxCrusher

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buckets said:
My best suggestions and believe me I contacted a lot of them all over Canada is to go and try MRCRI in Vancouver as well as Do no harm based in Kelowna BC. Both I am told will match existing MMAR permits if you have those. Many other places the doctors are reducing permits which is retarded. You can expect to pay $500-$1000 depending on the amount per day you seek. You guys need to decide if you will be growing your own, finding a designated grower, wanting to grow indoors and outdoors or not, if you'e growing your own, and the other option of finding an LP. Choice is up to you. Know how much you need and be ready to justify it. Health Canada doesn't accept juicing as a good reason so know about oils and edibles and how much you need to make them is my suggestion. Best of luck with it.
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I get that, but THEY should have to justify making SICK people pay those fees. I don't have a stubbed toe for fucks sake. I have a very legit reason, yet I am expected to not only PAY a fee but one I cant afford, because ya know Im fucking sick. I'm not sating it should be free, I get some places charge to fill forms which is easy to do for the ACMPR yourself as a patient, but fuck sake that's ridiculous. Its just filling out the damn Doctor section

I bought all my gear back when I was still working and anticipating getting into the MMAR.(in case anyone wonders how I'd afford setting up a grow but cant afford the $500-$1000 fee) never found a Doctor, and then the MMAR was no more and I sure as shit wasn't touching the corporate racketeering program known as the MMPR. these Doctors are still a major barrier to access JUST like the MMAR and MMPR. If you're not sick or permanently disabled, I get it. WTF is 500-100 bucks to grow your own, its nada. Sorry for the rant, it's not directed towards you in particular Buckets, I just LITERALLY can't comprehend how the sweet fucking christ I cant even find a reasonable Doctor given my condition.
 
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noperuiy

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buckets said:
My best suggestions and believe me I contacted a lot of them all over Canada is to go and try MRCRI in Vancouver as well as Do no harm based in Kelowna BC. Both I am told will match existing MMAR permits if you have those. Many other places the doctors are reducing permits which is retarded. You can expect to pay $500-$1000 depending on the amount per day you seek. You guys need to decide if you will be growing your own, finding a designated grower, wanting to grow indoors and outdoors or not, if you'e growing your own, and the other option of finding an LP. Choice is up to you. Know how much you need and be ready to justify it. Health Canada doesn't accept juicing as a good reason so know about oils and edibles and how much you need to make them is my suggestion. Best of luck with it.
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buckets said:
My best suggestions and believe me I contacted a lot of them all over Canada is to go and try MRCRI in Vancouver as well as Do no harm based in Kelowna BC. Both I am told will match existing MMAR permits if you have those. Many other places the doctors are reducing permits which is retarded. You can expect to pay $500-$1000 depending on the amount per day you seek. You guys need to decide if you will be growing your own, finding a designated grower, wanting to grow indoors and outdoors or not, if you'e growing your own, and the other option of finding an LP. Choice is up to you. Know how much you need and be ready to justify it. Health Canada doesn't accept juicing as a good reason so know about oils and edibles and how much you need to make them is my suggestion. Best of luck with it.
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Thanks a lot for your help , im much appreciated it . This is what im looking for and im understand good thing never come free , it still cheaper to support LPee tho . Have a nice day bro , Onward we grow !
 
buckets

buckets

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I'm with you on on this calyxcrusher. The prices are nuts and this new system is an even bigger barrier unless you're willing to accept the 3-5 grams a day prescription. It's really evil and that's what the Liberals have created. We need a better federal party than this one. It is better than Harper but the libs have always been for the corporate friends since the 1990's. Nothing has changed. By all means make a complaint to john conroy and kirk toews. I did! Oh, and maybe somebody out there can chime in, but is the fee we pay for our prescriptions a tax deduction for us? I believe that it may be.
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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buckets said:
I'm with you on on this calyxcrusher. The prices are nuts and this new system is an even bigger barrier unless you're willing to accept the 3-5 grams a day prescription. It's really evil and that's what the Liberals have created. We need a better federal party than this one. It is better than Harper but the libs have always been for the corporate friends since the 1990's. Nothing has changed. By all means make a complaint to john conroy and kirk toews. I did! Oh, and maybe somebody out there can chime in, but is the fee we pay for our prescriptions a tax deduction for us? I believe that it may be.
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It's only going to be tax decuctible if your income is right....it's still the only prescription a person has to pay for to have written...the doctor section of the application (I haven't looked at it) would be the equivalent in my mind to the doc pulling out the prescription pad and signing it.
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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noperuiy said:
Thanks

Thanks a lot for your help , im much appreciated it . This is what im looking for and im understand good thing never come free , it still cheaper to support LPee tho . Have a nice day bro , Onward we grow !
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FUCK THAT! Don't bend over for anyone. Which other medical procedures, visits and prescription writing requires an extortion payment? Even if charging fees for a mmj script was acceptable, a sliding price scale based on your gpd is absolutely illegal, as is being forced to use any LP as a prerequisite to getting your medicine..
REPORT ALL experiences that force you to jump through hoops that are not required for any other prescription. The next class action will be patients vs. doctors...we need to start stocking up on ammunition.
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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hey nice..

everyone turning to squealing on the only drs that may prescribe a decent amount..now?

HC will love that..you are doing them a good free service

yes it sucks and is unfair but a lot of things in the world are not fair..

and some people are finding it better than being fk'd by LPs

sheesh

ps. the "ammuntion" thing is childish..as well as futile

and let me go on recoed saying i do NOT agree with high charges..

but its generally

either that ,a tiny g per day, or Lp ville

in the end compared to that it is cheap..
 
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VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:
yes it sucks and is unfair but a lot of things in the world are not fair..
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It's also not legal and a gross violation of our court-mandated right to access. Would you accept this same scenario for any other medication? Maybe doctors will decide the only way they can prescribe heart medicine is through a clinic charging extortion fees. A friend of mine came out as 'trans' a few months back and has had zero problems with getting the required medical treatments to transition to a woman. Didn't cost him a dime...but we paid through our taxes. Why would the simple act of growing a plant require so many more steps...and a huge extortion fee? Demanding you be respected as an equal member of society is not " squealing on drs.", it's standing up for what's right.Most doctors are arrogant, condescending and lacking in life skills, but mmj docs that charge fees and demand unreasonable agreements are just assholes. I would have thought you would have more respect for yourself?
Anyone that would accept having their dignity, privacy and cash taken from them in order to obtain medicine is either a sheep or is more concerned with commercial growing than personal medicine,imo.
 
jafro daweedhound

jafro daweedhound

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So lets say that these guys write these scrips for $500- $1000. Seems to be only happening in a few clinics. Everyone else seems to be 5 grams / day +/-. We all agree this is illegal and as about as morally just as Bernie Madoff. So lets say that some one at hc decides to investigate and finds this is indeed illegal. all these people would have null and void prescriptions ???

This is me thinking outside of the box but something smells like bs.

Seems to be some barriers.... Somehow, someone will always find some way to discriminate against us. The only real barrier here is DISCRIMINATION !!!! Why are cannabis users allowed to be discriminated against.

Using cannabis should no more be illegal than being Jewish, or being gay, or having a different skin color. hc cant even admit that it helps people medically. hell that would be like admitting we have a right to exist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall: altogether now.....
 
Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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noperuiy said:
Im in need to find Dr in toronto or around who could sign for min 30gpd , i need it for juice/ dab badly . My doc not friendly at all to sign,i had brain injury due to motorcycle accident in 1997. im willing to pay for it, if any one can help , please give me shout ,any help would appreciat3 !
Thanks .
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Where you ever on the mmar?

How have you been getting an zip a day right now?

How did you figure you need that much a day?

How will you be paying for this daily amount?

Can you show me how you consume this.

This was asked of one of the clinics to a friend trying to get a higher license.

Then told 150 g is your total limit.
10 grams at most.

Did you find a clinic that doesnt require prior monituring..

Drs don't want to be the gate keepers
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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If cannabis is not an approved medicine then requiring a doctor's permission to use it is absurd. Joe and Jane citizen won't need a doctor's not to buy recreational weed in a year, so the only part doctors will have to play is granting the right to grow? Placing unreasonable conditions and fees as a barrier to our court-mandated right to access is criminal. Report. Complain. Sue. Demand equality. Public shaming of these doctors and their clinics is warranted. Here's a good place to start - https://www.ratemds.com.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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Talking with my doctor, he shed a little light on why doctors are hesitant on signing. All evidence in their eyes are anecdotal. Until legit human clinical trial are completed, there is no hard proof on cannabis. If a Doctor perscribes you cannabis and it does nothing for your ailment or masked the sympoms, and other proven treatments are dismissed. What happens in 6 month or a year and your illness gets worse, or complications arise? Who is responsable? Your doctor for giving you the wrong treatment? As for the sliding scale on cost, that's just wrong. He didn't have very pleasant things to say about that.
I approached it as a natural health care product and not a prescription. Cannabis is a part of my healthy lifestyle. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, I eat right and exsercise daily. There is no hard evidence that cannabis is harmful, just as much as it's beneficial. The greatest health risk of cannabis is going to jail/court. For that reason my doctor is willing to sign. Although he's not convinced on the health benifits, he agrees that getting busted would be bad for my health. I have been rec user for 30+ years, but I do find that there is a coralation between my cannabis use and my diabetes. At this point in time my healthy lifestyle is all that is needed to control my illness. Cannabis won't do it alone, it's simply part of a healthy lifestyle that will help in your condition.

Itsme.
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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itsmehigh said:
Until legit human clinical trial are completed, there is no hard proof on cannabis. If a Doctor perscribes you cannabis and it does nothing for your ailment or masked the sympoms, and other proven treatments are dismissed. What happens in 6 month or a year and your illness gets worse, or complications arise? Who is responsable? Your doctor for giving you the wrong treatment?
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Then why are they in charge of granting my right to access? If they don't have the knowledge or the ambition to gain that knowledge, then they have no right interfering in how I choose to treat myself.
Here is one example. I suffer from chronic pain from arthritis and old injuries. I suffer from depression brought on by the pain. I am also a former alcoholic, so doctors would not give me anything stronger than T3's for pain. I per day! WTF? They decided it was easier and more profitable to treat my resulting depression rather than the pain that was causing it. The doctor had no problem putting me on 5 different ssri's and anxiety meds, despite my repeated complaints of side-effects, but he is concerned about allowing the use of a substance that will be legal in a few months? He has no concerns with
"what happens in 6 months or a year" when he is pushing pills. My condition is never going to improve and I do not trust pharma drugs, so I'm gonna do what I need to do to treat myself autonomously. I'm holding on tight to my pinks...
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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VIANARCHRIS said:
Then why are they in charge of granting my right to access? If they don't have the knowledge or the ambition to gain that knowledge, then they have no right interfering in how I choose to treat myself.
Here is one example. I suffer from chronic pain from arthritis and old injuries. I suffer from depression brought on by the pain. I am also a former alcoholic, so doctors would not give me anything stronger than T3's for pain. I per day! WTF? They decided it was easier and more profitable to treat my resulting depression rather than the pain that was causing it. The doctor had no problem putting me on 5 different ssri's and anxiety meds, despite my repeated complaints of side-effects, but he is concerned about allowing the use of a substance that will be legal in a few months? He has no concerns with
"what happens in 6 months or a year" when he is pushing pills. My condition is never going to improve and I do not trust pharma drugs, so I'm gonna do what I need to do to treat myself autonomously. I'm holding on tight to my pinks...
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That's just it, doctors don't want the job of gatekeeper. They are just as disappointed with the whole mess as we are. They have also been forced into the program.

Itsme.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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itsmehigh said:
Talking with my doctor, he shed a little light on why doctors are hesitant on signing. All evidence in their eyes are anecdotal. Until legit human clinical trial are completed, there is no hard proof on cannabis. If a Doctor perscribes you cannabis and it does nothing for your ailment or masked the sympoms, and other proven treatments are dismissed. What happens in 6 month or a year and your illness gets worse, or complications arise? Who is responsable? Your doctor for giving you the wrong treatment? As for the sliding scale on cost, that's just wrong. He didn't have very pleasant things to say about that.
I approached it as a natural health care product and not a prescription. Cannabis is a part of my healthy lifestyle. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, I eat right and exsercise daily. There is no hard evidence that cannabis is harmful, just as much as it's beneficial. The greatest health risk of cannabis is going to jail/court. For that reason my doctor is willing to sign. Although he's not convinced on the health benifits, he agrees that getting busted would be bad for my health. I have been rec user for 30+ years, but I do find that there is a coralation between my cannabis use and my diabetes. At this point in time my healthy lifestyle is all that is needed to control my illness. Cannabis won't do it alone, it's simply part of a healthy lifestyle that will help in your condition.

Itsme.
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they should take the same approach to all medication then.
when they come out with the new "wonder drug" and all the Dr's push it, where's that same thinking?
there's tons of research out there and has been for years. Dr's just want to say no to "drugs" they just plain don't like. they'll pump you full of organ killing or addictive crap without hesitation but when you come to them and say "can i have this please? it really works" they say no...but the big pharma company says "we think this is good. start prescribing it" they pump it out.
why can't our voices count?
 
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