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Its_Charger

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I need advice, my plant is about 3 weeks now, it's under a 600 w hps light, that I only have set to 400w right now, I've been having troubles lately because I'm still fairly new, I have a little air circulating from a single fan, I'm ph'ing my water to about 6.5-7. It looks like my plant is suffering from heat stress, but it's only on 400w and it's already so far from the light as it is, i also noticed 2 of my bottom leaves are yellowing, does any have any advice on what I'm doing wrong :( ?20160926_150041.jpg 20160926_145904.jpg20160926_145927.jpg
 
Final Phase

Final Phase

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Make sure the pot is draining well. Poke a pencil into each hole and watch for drain off next watering.
The soil may be too hot for that strain, you could have fungus gnats if the water isn't draining well...
You could be watering too much...

There are a dozen other possibilities of why the plant is doing this.

I have one plant out of 28 that is growing as if it were being fed next to nothing and looks all shriveled up... It's growing in the middle of the room and gets the same nutrients as all the others... Sometimes a plant just doesn't grow right, however there is usually a reason...

Good luck and good growing...
 
Doc McPuffins

Doc McPuffins

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Quick random question. I'm always fairly new to all of this I'm currently in my 3rd wk of flower. White widow strain. I've had people tell me to trim off bottom leaves for better air flow and light reach I've also had others tell me not to trim leaves cuz it would cause to much stress. Got buds forming and I didn't want to jeopordize anything this late into the game. Thanx
 
r.i.kid

r.i.kid

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Man I had that same problem. i thought it was heat stress than too much light turns out it was a cal mag deficiency. i uped my cal mag and boom nice green plants again. pic of my 2 week from seed.
 

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Man I had that same problem. i thought it was heat stress than too much light turns out it was a cal mag deficiency. i uped my cal mag and boom nice green plants again. pic of my 2 week from seed.
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See dude thats how I feel like it should be growing, but it's been 3 wks for me, and clearly yours is in better condition, how exactly could I up my Cal mag, just buy some? Bc if I'm not mistaken I may have some.
 
r.i.kid

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Its_Charger said:
See dude thats how I feel like it should be growing, but it's been 3 wks for me, and clearly yours is in better condition, how exactly could I up my Cal mag, just buy some? Bc if I'm not mistaken I may have some.
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yeah dude if you don't know what the ppm of your water is buy a tester. i use cal mag plus. it looks like you been keeping your light far from the plant cause every time you try and move it close the yellowing gets worse. that's why your nodes are far apart. when you move the light closer it uses more water hence more nutes...imo I'm no expert. but check it out add the cal mag you should see an improvement in a few days it bounces back fast if not, not much lost at least you ruled that out.
 
Trich_holmes

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2 questions I would have are what soil is it and what nutes are you feeding, and how often. Are you letting the pot dry out fully? Looks to be more PH issue as your tips look burnt.
 
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I will post more deed info and pics later, if anyone will still be able to take a look
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2 questions I would have are what soil is it and what nutes are you feeding, and how often. Are you letting the pot dry out fully? Looks to be more PH issue as your tips look burnt.
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For soil i use fox farm ocean forest, and as of nutrients, i have them but I don't use them, bc as you see, I'm still learning, and as for ph I keep my water at a ph of 6.5 to like 7.0.
 
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Doc McPuffins said:
Quick random question. I'm always fairly new to all of this I'm currently in my 3rd wk of flower. White widow strain. I've had people tell me to trim off bottom leaves for better air flow and light reach I've also had others tell me not to trim leaves cuz it would cause to much stress. Got buds forming and I didn't want to jeopordize anything this late into the game. Thanx
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Some people take cuttings from bottom branches at latest 2 wk into flower,some remove them to boost the tops but sometimes they grow as high as the tops and form a ring.
i wouldnt defoliate unless you have a lot of leaves blocking bud sites,but usually its a no no just leave the leafs unless old crispybor dying.hope this helps
 
dazzyballz

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Its_Charger said:
I need advice, my plant is about 3 weeks now, it's under a 600 w hps light, that I only have set to 400w right now, I've been having troubles lately because I'm still fairly new, I have a little air circulating from a single fan, I'm ph'ing my water to about 6.5-7. It looks like my plant is suffering from heat stress, but it's only on 400w and it's already so far from the light as it is, i also noticed 2 of my bottom leaves are yellowing, does any have any advice on what I'm doing wrong :( ?View attachment 3790443 View attachment 3790442View attachment 3790445
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to be Theyd do better under a cfl white for 1st month but it shouldnt bother them under a h.i..d
Are u usinng coco/hydro if so ph needs to be bang on 1 feed wrong can damage em,when/what were they last fed.but ive seen plants look a lot worse than yours take pics with light out.
 
Trich_holmes

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Its_Charger said:
I will post more deed info and pics later, if anyone will still be able to take a look

For soil i use fox farm ocean forest, and as of nutrients, i have them but I don't use them, bc as you see, I'm still learning, and as for ph I keep my water at a ph of 6.5 to like 7.0.
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That's gonna be the problem with the yellowing of the bottom leaves. It's hungry. I was sort of perplexed that your situation because it looks hungry on the bottom and burnt on the top. I'm guessing now it's probably just from PHing that cause ya slight burn on top. Something extremely easy to use for beginners to pros is general Organics nutrient line. You simply add each of the bottles one at a time to your tap water, and no PHing ever! I wish I had this line when I started. Would have saved me a lot of money and trouble. Foxfarm is good soil, but really only will feed a plant for a week or so.
 
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Also about your question on defoliating....absolutely defoliate! I always take any small branches on the bottom of the plant one maybe two nodes up that you know are never gonna reach the top because they're pointless, and take away energy from the upper buds, which are the ones that you really want. Airflow is another important reason to take out leaves, but mostly when growing in tents or lots of plants packed in a tight space. I usually have the majority of my fans gone by week 5-6. It allows more light to penetrate to buds that are lower down. Just my 2 cents, hope it helps:bigjoint:
 
FruitSpirit

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I may get shot down for this, but i have been using LED's multi spectrum and i have never had any issues with heat stress etc. If you can you could try a 300w led light next time until a few weeks into veg and then use your light your using now. BUT that is only if it is a light issue and not a deficiency/nutrient problem. Some may disagree with me but if i have had no issues and iv grown 8 so far and never had a problem with lights.

Make it easier for you to begin with then when your better at growing you could then work out how best to use your ligbt your using at the moment. Just an idea bro. You can get led's cheap online worth a try if it makes life easier
 
FruitSpirit

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Also for air about the bush, you could get a fan that lets you position it so the air is blowing from the bottom up might help when it gets bushy if your not trimming much. I lollipop my girls, everything growing round the periphery i strip from 2/3 up the branch down to the base.
 
Trich_holmes

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FruitSpirit said:
I may get shot down for this, but i have been using LED's multi spectrum and i have never had any issues with heat stress etc. If you can you could try a 300w led light next time until a few weeks into veg and then use your light your using now. BUT that is only if it is a light issue and not a deficiency/nutrient problem. Some may disagree with me but if i have had no issues and iv grown 8 so far and never had a problem with lights.

Make it easier for you to begin with then when your better at growing you could then work out how best to use your ligbt your using at the moment. Just an idea bro. You can get led's cheap online worth a try if it makes life easier
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Good advise! I used to take fresh clones from under a t5 straight to 600-1000W HPS. Never had any stress, which is why I always find it odd when folks suggest that someone is using too much light that's detrimental to the plant. Now how ever I like to start them for a few weeks under LED's as I feel they keep the nodes more compact, and doesn't hurt to save a few dollars not running MH's for a few weeks each cycle!
 
A.K.A. Overgrowem

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Its_Charger said:
I will post more deed info and pics later, if anyone will still be able to take a look

For soil i use fox farm ocean forest, and as of nutrients, i have them but I don't use them, bc as you see, I'm still learning, and as for ph I keep my water at a ph of 6.5 to like 7.0.
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Early yellowing is usually nitrogen deficiency. Use your veg neutz...6-0-1, I have a sample 13-0-0, greens stuff up nicely. Once your bottom leaves go yellow I do not think you can save them. I don't remember cause after my first grow I got my neutz dialed in for that strain and had more experience b4 I grew another strain. Take off your "underbrush" leaves and puny bottom stems. Don't go overboard tho, a healthy sugar leaf is valuable to the plant. I sometimes move them with thread. Grow basic strains like Afghan Kush or Williams Wonder to start, hybrids can be very finicky about their neutz. Tried and true beginner strains can/will produce dank ganj.. Good luck.
 
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