S_Caldwell
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Lots of helpful info. in here. Thanks all! I'm a new grower and am trying to learn all that I can, quickly. During my research I found this video on mycorrhizae and thought I'd share...
Mycorrhiza Fungi...why you should get to know them...
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Banana444
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I wonder how well they survive and for how long then or if they go dormant. I use promix with mykos already in it, wonder ifwhen I cook soil if it affecy the mykos mixed in. I am looking to get some powdered mycos to sprinkle on transplants, have only tried stump tea so far and heard other brands were a lot better.
S_Caldwell
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Hey bananas444, I'm a new grower and was curious why you would need to add more myco if you're already using the PRO-MIX with myco in it? I read on the website that you don't need to add anything to it so I was just curious.
Banana444
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Not all myco products are created equal. They have different types of mycos. And the most effective method of inocculation of the rhyzosphere is dirrect contact by sprinkling, and if you do a soil drench innoculation, it may or may not be successful. Along with the fact that not all mycos work the same with different plants and there are some plants mycorisa has no effect on. I have been happy with the promix, but I would love to know what specific mycos are best for canna and use those. I will try a few of the products.
S_Caldwell
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Got it! Thanks 
That makes sense. I'd be interested in hearing what you find out about the best myco for cannabis.
That makes sense. I'd be interested in hearing what you find out about the best myco for cannabis.
Bugeye
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Was thumbing through Teaming with Microbes this afternoon and it is noted on p. 151 that myco fungi are pretty much wiped out when an organic fertilizer has an NPK with any phosphorous value higher than a 10.
Sorry if I missed this tidbit in someone else's link, didn't make through them all reading the thread.
Sorry if I missed this tidbit in someone else's link, didn't make through them all reading the thread.
A friend of mine and I got our medical permits at the same time. We used the same seed stock. Our set ups were similar, the only major difference was I used a couple myco products on a soil I mixed while he used a store bought organic potting soil and some 1-1-1 liquid fert.
5 weeks in my plants were healthy while his were barely holding themselves up. We transplanted his plants to the same soil mix I had made in within in a day there was a huge noticeable difference in the plants. The myco treatements I used had trace minerals and some organic fert, so who knows what played the biggest roll, but it was cheap and hasn't hurt anything. One was Dr Earth and the other was Organic Plant Magic
5 weeks in my plants were healthy while his were barely holding themselves up. We transplanted his plants to the same soil mix I had made in within in a day there was a huge noticeable difference in the plants. The myco treatements I used had trace minerals and some organic fert, so who knows what played the biggest roll, but it was cheap and hasn't hurt anything. One was Dr Earth and the other was Organic Plant Magic
dababydroman
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and can I substitute karol corn syrup for molasses?
radicaldank42
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I use mykos and great white, I believe it helps plants extend their roots "reach" so itt can pull nutrients that are far away from the roots. also the beneficial bacteria and mycro can defend youre plants against pests and if done correctly the plant can actually adjusts its own ph to whatever it wants. if correctly done. you can also establish a rhizosphere if I spelt that correctly which can only be obtained in organics.
radicaldank42
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this is brilluiant, lol I didn't no madern marvels made that episode lol, that show is excessiviely helpful
radicaldank42
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can this be added to vermiculture?
420Hazza
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Your totally right, I'm preparing for my second proper grow, with mostly organics nutes I'll be using my own wormcast around 10l right now increasing each weekThanx for bumping this thread. There must be something wrong with the search function, 'cuz when I use it, I get alot of worthless, unrelated shit. I have been interested in mycorrhizae for a couple of months now, but could find very little here on RIU.
Has anyone ever tried BioTone starter Plus? I have already mixed the soil for this next grow, so it's probably a moot point, but I'm interested in any first hand knowledge opinions as to it's efficacy.
My reason for going with the BioTone over the other product with mycorrhizae only was the fact that it contained the other trace minerals (purportedly organic) as well.
I FINALLY found a local source for bat guano and worm castings!!!! Joy!!! It's kinda funny when you start asking Q's about the organic ferts like guano, worm castings, kelp etc. I'm pretty sure that they know whats up. Not a whole lot of people (veggie growers) who go to this nursery know much about mycorrhizae or guano. Careful how much you let slip. I got a "knowing look" from the sales clerk.But it's all good, I'm pretty sure she smokes too!
defo will use myco thinking about great white or humboldt white widow any one tried them ?
Pattahabi
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Do not use great white. Make sure your mykos product does not contain trichaderma spores. I use xtreme gardening's mykos. It's a straight glomus intraradices.Your totally right, I'm preparing for my second proper grow, with mostly organics nutes I'll be using my own wormcast around 10l right now increasing each week
It can, but it would be expensive worm/microbe food. Better off dusting the roots at transplant.
MoonAndStarz
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I see the video you posted is made by Pro Mix. It reminded me that they also have a mycorrhizal inoculant called PRO-MIX PUR that I've used in the past, you might want to check out if you're a fan of their products.
Why shoukd you not use trichoderma
Pattahabi
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It's not that you shouldn't use Trichoderma, but know that the spores are cheap. This is why they are packed in with mycorrhizae, and when applied together it inhibits the mycorrhizal colonization of the root tip.
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Ok so its good to use .... what are the better brands or ones you have experimented with i was looking at kelp 4 less endo/ecto with innoculants. Have you heard or tried them or q brand you woukd recommend i think like great white and such are over priced since there more of a big name etc
Pattahabi
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You are absolutely correct, great white is way overpriced. I have used great white (junk), Zho (not bad), Mykos from xtreme gardening which I really like and I am currently using. Nothing fancy, just straight mycorrhiza intraradices.
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0038071794902194
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