My thoughts about Rollitup

sunni said:

Well we only delete that is in the rules.
-Personal attacks (ie: youre a fucking idiot, go die, ect)
-Nudity
-Spam /Advertisement
-Goodbye threads
-Threads negatively posted about other members
-Selling/trading/gifting
there are a few others but they dont pertain to this issue

I cant ban someone just because someone finds that user obnoxious ..that is why we have the Ignore button found under your name top right hand corner, "people i ignore"

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Sure I can ignore people- believe me, I do- but those stupid posts are left behind for everyone else.

You're dancing around a central fact; that roll it up promotes stupid bullshit far more than growing. I'm sorry if you disagree with my assessment, but I've heard it too often from people who really did want to find a good forum.

It's feedback; listen carefully, don't get defensive and try to solve the underlying problem that we're all in agreement exists here.

The ignore button is not a solution.

ttystikk said:

Sure I can ignore people- believe me, I do- but those stupid posts are left behind for everyone else.

You're dancing around a central fact; that roll it up promotes stupid bullshit far more than growing. I'm sorry if you dosage with my assessment, but I've heard it too often from people who really did want to find a good forum.

It's feedback; listen carefully, don't get defensive and try to solve the underlying problem that we're all in agreement exists here.

The ignore button is not a solution.

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I am certainly not getting defensive, I listen carefully to all users. Please do not take me for being defensive,
Im just trying to help make things clearer on what we can delete as per rules.(i didnt make up the rules i just follow them)

I am also trying to help anyone who doesnt know about certain features have the ability to use them.

Im working for you here, giving you options that the forum has ,in short im just giving the options for a better forum usage to users, im just trying to help , I cannot change the rules, That is admin, Im just trying to help make anyone who reads this thread have a better forum experience by giving the options of features that are online and able to use.

Also listening to you , and anyone who posts,
please see where I am coming from here. it is certainly not on a defensive stance, its from a helpful point of view.

The biggest problem is honestly size. Half a million accounts means you're going to have a bunch of assholes. And a lot of disagreement over who to do things. The fact is cannabis is a plant that will grow well in a wide variety of conditions and what works in my garden might not work in yours. At the end of the day so long as you're happy with your quality and have enough to meet your needs you're growing right.
It does surprise me that a community of cannabis growers has so much trouble chilling out though.

a forum that has no personality gets boring real fast. Look at some other grow forums that have natzi like control, they are small and boring. It's their way or the highway, i always prefer a looser forum that let's some banter go on, within reason. I find myself laughing at some of the crap posted more than being pissed off about it.

Well......I am glad that my original post spurred on this conversation.

I agree that the size of membership and the girth of this site makes managing it a daunting task. It doesn't take too many rotten apples to spoil the site for others.

I'm a member of several grow sites....all much smaller, and often very little is going on there (not referring to a common site some of the posters of this thread frequent)....and there's little content to grasp as new.

Sunni.....I don't envy your tasks on here. It has to feel like you're herding 1,000 cats every day. I have no real solutions to your challenges other than to say that you're losing many expert growers that find this site exasperating. Maybe having a passworded section that only approved members can frequent.

lilroach said:

Well......I am glad that my original post spurred on this conversation.

I agree that the size of membership and the girth of this site makes managing it a daunting task. It doesn't take too many rotten apples to spoil the site for others.

I'm a member of several grow sites....all much smaller, and often very little is going on there (not referring to a common site some of the posters of this thread frequent)....and there's little content to grasp as new.

Sunni.....I don't envy your tasks on here. It has to feel like you're herding 1,000 cats every day. I have no real solutions to your challenges other than to say that you're losing many expert growers that find this site exasperating. Maybe having a passworded section that only approved members can frequent.

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in the past we did have a paid membership forum, elite it was 5$ or something but it didnt go over too well.

playing devils advocate here but
who would approve of these members?
how many members can be approved?
what would be the approval process?

approving a membership area, while being non biased, would be easy but that doesnt stop some members some simply not getting along.
there are members who are excellent forum users, who simply dont get along with eachother, even the most upstanding members dont like other upstanding members, thus fights would still break out

I might suggest ditching the non-marijuana threads if that's where your challenges reside.

lilroach said:

I might suggest ditching the non-marijuana threads if that's where your challenges reside.

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thatt will definitely never happen, so many members would be upset if we didnt have a place for general talking, and than all of the marijuana areas specific for growing ect. would be FILLED with general chatter that would just be a headache all in itself worse than now

sunni said:

in the past we did have a paid membership forum, elite it was 5$ or something but it didnt go over too well.

playing devils advocate here but
who would approve of these members?
how many members can be approved?
what would be the approval process?

approving a membership area, while being non biased, would be easy but that doesnt stop some members some simply not getting along.
there are members who are excellent forum users, who simply dont get along with eachother, even the most upstanding members dont like other upstanding members, thus fights would still break out

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Sunni......I don't have the answers to your questions. Maybe an "Experts Only" section that just the approved (by moderators? or those that have a large number RELEVANT "likes" as a guideline) or a referral process....I dunno. Other's can read expert posts, but cannot comment.

Sure, people don't get along all the time, and that's when moderators (hence the name) step in.

lilroach said:

Sunni......I don't have the answers to your questions. Maybe an "Experts Only" section that just the approved (by moderators? or those that have a large number RELEVANT "likes" as a guideline) or a referral process....I dunno. Other's can read expert posts, but cannot comment.

Sure, people don't get along all the time, and that's when moderators (hence the name) step in.

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maybe you can call them communes? Lilroach, what is with the sudden attack on RIU and wanting to change it/ I mean, isn't rm3's site kinda the private site you're talking about? Isn't it boring as hell there? I know I rarely go there as much as i appreciate the members and the info, it is a dead site, want that to happen to RIU? I just don't get all the whining about the site and wanting to change it threads.

I think any member has the ability to turn the page if they come across something they don't like...being thin skinned will get you no where on Internet forums...I've read plenty of silly things on RUI the ability to move on is the readers decision...use it

chuck estevez said:

maybe you can call them communes? Lilroach, what is with the sudden attack on RIU and wanting to change it/ I mean, isn't rm3's site kinda the private site you're talking about? Isn't it boring as hell there? I know I rarely go there as much as i appreciate the members and the info, it is a dead site, want that to happen to RIU? I just don't get all the whining about the site and wanting to change it threads.

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I'm not attacking RIU....not at all. My intentions were to share what many people feel and causes them to leave this site. One thing I don't want is a bunch of newbies being the only real-time resource on this site. I don't want members having to sort through "Where do you shoot your jizz" threads to learn how to properly grow weed.

I'm sorry you feel I'm whining. I'm sorry you feel that private sites are dead. I'm not here to try to make this site like any others.....but I'd like to think that those in charge would like input from those of us that once loved this site that no longer do.....and why it's happening.

lilroach said:

I'm not attacking RIU....not at all. My intentions were to share what many people feel and causes them to leave this site. One thing I don't want is a bunch of newbies being the only real-time resource on this site. I don't want members having to sort through "Where do you shoot your jizz" threads to learn how to properly grow weed.

I'm sorry you feel I'm whining. I'm sorry you feel that private sites are dead. I'm not here to try to make this site like any others.....but I'd like to think that those in charge would like input from those of us that once loved this site that no longer do.....and why it's happening.

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I keep seeing sunni tell people to report when they don't like something, she says they can't see it all, they are just volunteers and need some help, try hitting the report button and see what happens. I helped another member with a thin skin find the ignore button. YOU have to do your part to make the forum what you want it to be, but it can't cater to each individual who can't handle some things, WAY to big for that.

chuck estevez said:

maybe you can call them communes? Lilroach, what is with the sudden attack on RIU and wanting to change it/ I mean, isn't rm3's site kinda the private site you're talking about? Isn't it boring as hell there? I know I rarely go there as much as i appreciate the members and the info, it is a dead site, want that to happen to RIU?

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+Rep.

RIU is also obviously not just a grow forum, considering it as such will lead to disappointment, so yeah there's more (lots of nonsense) on the main forum index. Some of it is quite entertaining. It is what it is and compared to other sites it isn't even that bad. Trolls and assholes everywhere.

If only the admin was as committed as Sunni is... Albums, design, xenforo update... After vbulletin was replace with Xenforo it just wasn't finished. That's not an attack on potroast, I'm sure he has his reasons, but there's a lot of room for improvement.

lilroach said:

Maybe an "Experts Only" section that just the approved (by moderators? or those that have a large number RELEVANT "likes" as a guideline) or a referral process....I dunno. Other's can read expert posts, but cannot comment.

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I've had the exact same thought about the advanced mj cultivation and its breeding sub forum a couple of times. It's less active so the approval process should be doable, and it could serve as a good example to other forums. But again, considering this a cannabis growing 'discussion forum' will only lead to disappointment.

I have posted and modded cannabis forums since the beginning of forum time and with the exception of a few private, by invitation only, they are all the same. "We" are supposed to be cool, chill out types. In reality nothing could be farther from the truth. Cannabis forums tend to be a magnet for some of society's most dysfunctional people.

And having modded the first cannabis website (other than ADPC, a newsgroup), 6 forums at time single handedly, I can sympathize with the mods. It's a very time consuming job, no pay, and emotionally draining at times.

So having said that, all I can say is "eat shit and die".

lilroach said:

I understand exactly your point of view, and I would have penned a similar reply months ago. "Shut up and leave already".

I guess I was trying to not put down RIU so much as to hopefully make a point that would be taken by the administration/moderators that would clean-up the site.

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You do realize that there's a couple of mods that troll just as hard as anyone on this site don't you?

Sativied said:

+Rep.

RIU is also obviously not just a grow forum, considering it as such will lead to disappointment, so yeah there's more (lots of nonsense) on the main forum index. Some of it is quite entertaining. It is what it is and compared to other sites it isn't even that bad. Trolls and assholes everywhere.

If only the admin was as committed as Sunni is... Albums, design, xenforo update... After vbulletin was replace with Xenforo it just wasn't finished. That's not an attack on potroast, I'm sure he has his reasons, but there's a lot of room for improvement.

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thanks for calling me dedicated, potroast and admin are two different people though potroast is very dedicated but has no ability to do the coding/web design none of us can thats only admin

Like the guys said, a lot of it is a bit of banter like my avatar but their is a lot of soft people here that takes it to heart.

RIU at its finest.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-original-things-do-you-do-to-your-growing-plants.852390/