My plants are not looking good.

Labs Dexter

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I think you need some Nitrogen or an all round feeder should work here is a chart I allways have handy and research for possible symptoms... It's worked good for me user141080_pic834101_1328773618.jpg
Hope it helps.. And try to find a food with not allot of nitrogen since you are flowering, I see you are out doors and maybe some one pulls through soon with some help because I just grow indoors.. Hope it helps and good luck buddy
 
I think you need some Nitrogen or an all round feeder should work here is a chart I allways have handy and research for possible symptoms... It's worked good for me View attachment 3514145
Hope it helps.. And try to find a food with not allot of nitrogen since you are flowering, I see you are out doors and maybe some one pulls through soon with some help because I just grow indoors.. Hope it helps and good luck buddy
I'm confused because I have been giving them nutrients including nitrogen. They've been like this for like 2 weeks now and I have been feeding and watering them but seem to be suffering. I've never given them Epsom salts, u think that would work?
 

Frosteze

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I notice when I go from artificial light to outdoors, I get some yellowing on the new growth. I've just started growing outdoors and it seems every plant has done this so far just as it starts to push hairs. Seems to work itself out though. Epsom Salt probably wouldn't hurt if you haven't added cal mag or if using tap water. Even if, you can still add a little. Also, a little molasses if you haven't added already.
 

Frosteze

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What have you been feeding them?
Seablast (grow and bloom), maxicrop with iron, big bloom, cal mag, superthrive (not during flowering) and molasses. No expert by all means. I figured I'd put the ingredients in and the plant will take up what it needs.
 

Bugeye

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Well that's a lot of stuff. What is the NPK and feed rate on the synthetics used during flower and have you varied the feed or been on same stuff all of flower?
 

Indacouch

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Did they begin to yellow at the start of flowering when you switched to bloom nutes .........
 

Frosteze

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Seems like a lot. Cal mag is always in the water until final two weeks. Superthrive is also always in the water during veg. Big bloom, molasses and maxicrop get mixed for a feeding and the grow (1/2 dose during flowering) and bloom are watered individually. Plain water between feedings. I just basically transition to more flowering nutes during flowering. I don't have the NPK in front of me.
 
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Frosteze

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Did they begin to yellow at the start of flowering when you switched to bloom nutes .........
About a week and a half or so after setting outside. Like I said though, I'm not an expert. Haven't quite figured out why. Maybe the change ( LED to sun) locks out nutes or not hardening off long enough. Combination of both maybe.
 

Indacouch

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Oh ok yeah your main issue may be light intensity .......gotta harden those babies off good before you throw them to momma nature ......I'm not saying that's your only problem but I'm kinda leaning that direction good luck friend hope they pull through for you
 

daloudpack

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Seems like a lot. Cal mag is always in the water until final two weeks. Superthrive is also always in the water during veg. Big bloom, molasses and maxicrop get mixed for a feeding and the grow (1/2 dose during flowering) and bloom are watered individually. Plain water between feedings. I just basically transition to more flowering nutes during flowering. I don't have the NPK in front of me.
superthrive shouldnt always be in your water imo....superthrive will cause stretching, and build up an immunity to itselfso when u really need it it doesnt work as well ... best to use superthrive 1nce at beggining of veg, at transplant every time, and when ur showing stress or deficiency..... thats just what ive researched and always done and worked well.i agree with calmag everywater tho unless ur using tap water as there is already calcium in it, and can lock out magnesium
 

Frosteze

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Yep, still learning. Grew indoors for a few years and growing outdoors is completely new to me. Dealing with bugs, high winds, heat is all affecting me right now. At least the temps have dropped a few degrees. Growing Sour D which has a fairly long flowering period which exposes the plant to these elements longer. I'm vegging Critical Mass right now which is a way shorter period outdoors. Hoping the less time having to deal with these problems would be beneficial due to my experience level.
 

Frosteze

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superthrive shouldnt always be in your water imo....superthrive will cause stretching, and build up an immunity to itselfso when u really need it it doesnt work as well ... best to use superthrive 1nce at beggining of veg, at transplant every time, and when ur showing stress or deficiency..... thats just what ive researched and always done and worked well.i agree with calmag everywater tho unless ur using tap water as there is already calcium in it, and can lock out magnesium
Good to know. Thanks!
 

daloudpack

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miracle gro is not very good at all.... and mater magic is alright but theres so many more beneficial nutes for weed... theres organic, base , chemical ,... i use fox farm trio (grow big , big bloom , Tiger bloom ) , some use ADVANCED NUTRIENTS 3 part system , sum people use Floragro , or sensi A+B......pick one try it out (id recommend Fox Farms myself)
 
miracle gro is not very good at all.... and mater magic is alright but theres so many more beneficial nutes for weed... theres organic, base , chemical ,... i use fox farm trio (grow big , big bloom , Tiger bloom ) , some use ADVANCED NUTRIENTS 3 part system , sum people use Floragro , or sensi A+B......pick one try it out (id recommend Fox Farms myself)
Yea ur right man I'm gonna pick up some of that fox farm because ur not the only one that recommended it. Where can I get that fox farm stuff. Maybe Walmart might have it.
 

daloudpack

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also if ur in some miracle grow dirt or sumthing like that switch to a ph buffering soil.... maybe research Fox farm ocean forest and check it out.... with a ph buffering soil its way more forgving then having to ph balance urself, in fact u dont have to fuck with it at all usually.... any good soil u can find with perlite , dolomite lime , and peat moss will be great... i use fertilome ultimate and i love it
 
also if ur in some miracle grow dirt or sumthing like that switch to a ph buffering soil.... maybe research Fox farm ocean forest and check it out.... with a ph buffering soil its way more forgving then having to ph balance urself, in fact u dont have to fuck with it at all usually.... any good soil u can find with perlite , dolomite lime , and peat moss will be great... i use fertilome ultimate and i love it
Yea I'm using miracle grow soil. I appreciate the advice and I'm def gonna do better. This is my first grow and I thought that it was gonna be easy but I guess not lol..
 
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