My homemade Bubble Cloner

stoner93

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thanks man like i said earlier youve been a great help and i think ill try this out on my next grow and maybe even put the plant that looks like its starting to have some trouble in the hempy bucket soon.... can i ask how old you are cause you seem to know everything there is to know
 

Xare

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I am 31, so I do have a few harvests under my belt :mrgreen:

Forums like these are a great source of learning material and I credit my success to reading alot.
 

stoner93

Active Member
dude i went straight to wal-mart and got a ph tester and it was off the charts :( about 7.8 if i had to guess :(
 

stoner93

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well if you care at all i thought id let you know that i put all the stuff about the hempy bucket into action and she is back to growing quite a bit and is doing great....

once again thanks man
 
My first attempt at cloning was not going so well. So I built this bubble cloner to try and save them.

I was using peat pucks and on the 5th day I stopped spraying them, but it got hot that day the clones wilted.

I put them in a cool shady area and misted them while I made up this bubble cloner.

This was created with stuff lying around the house.





It took me a few hours to do all the work and I put the clones in it then went to bed.

When I woke up they looked much better, only 2 looked a bit wilted but they were stronger. And when I checked again hours later none of them looked wilted at all.

This pic was taken when I saw the 2 kinda wilty ones.

Ive noticed that I do not need to spray when using the bubble cloner, the leafs seem to stay a bit damp. Iam not sure if the water is wicking up the outside of the stem but its keeping them nice and damp.


The foam inserts you see are from a Pool Raft. I took a 2 inch hole drill and made the 40 cutouts. Then I cut them down the middle so you can separate them and put in a clone.

The holes in the lid are 1 and 3/4 inches. That way the foam inserts fit in nice and snug.

As you see I also cut the lid and placed it down in the rubbermaid. This is to avoid any leaks from the lid. It has holes in the handles, i filled them with a hot glue gun. The lid is resting on these handles on the inside of the rubbermaid.

The Aquarium heater / thermostat is working great so far, ive got the temps @ 75 degree's

I added a bit of rooting hormone and H2O2 to the water.


The rubbermaid I used is kinda big but its what I had, and this 40 spot cloner will be great for my needs. Because it takes so much water, I added some things in the bottom to take up water volume. 2 liters with water and rocks as ballast to keep them sunk.

I did this so the volume of the water is less and the bubblers have to oxygenate less water. I also have my bubblers resting on these.

Still the water is making the sides flex out a bit. Ive covered it with plastic wrap for now.

Ive ordered a stronger air pump and larger airstones, right now iam using a 4 inch stone and a 3 inch disk with two old aquarium pumps. The new pump iam getting is a 75 GPH dual pump to run two 12 inch airstones.

I sure hope this thing works for me. If they do root iam gonna transplant them into a Hempy SOG grow.
nice set up. I just built something similar, instead of using foam, i use meat or produce packaging foam inserts. Simply take the foam insert and flip it upside down so there is a air gap, however, i really like your idea and thinkg that using a pool float is the way to go!

Just curious how far do you stick your cutting into the water beyond the foam ? looks like about 1.75 to 2 inches from the pics.
 

Xare

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Ive used those packaging foam inserts before too. To make a small temporary mini bubble cloner. The only problem with them is you have to cut them up to get the cuttings out once they are rooted.

I like to have about 1 and 1/2 inches of the stem sitting in the water. Some people say you have to have the stem out of the water and with so many bubbles that they "burst" and mist the stem. But they are trying to root the cuts as fast as possible. I myself am in no hurry. Repeatable reliability is more important to me then speed.
 

CLOSETGROWTH

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Great Job! :)

You were saying that you keep the end of the clones in the water..

Hmm.. I never do, and I have 100% success..

Maybe different strains and varities root differently? ..

Good possibility huh? +rep :-P
 

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Here are some recent clones done in the bubble cloner.

White Poison cuts from my current grow:

















Great pictures! i need to get some of mine up. I am still considering how long i want to veg my clones before i put em in the flowering set up.

Are you just ph'ing the water, dipping them then putting them in ?

THanks for the pics and info.
 

Xare

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I fill up the rubbermaid with straight well water. Its Hard Water with a high PH.

I do not adjust it.

Sometimes I add a bit of rooting hormone into the bubble water. But I dont dip the stems. It would just wash away in the cloner so I feel putting a bit in the water is sufficient.

Water Temps seem to be more important.
 

jbbuds85

Active Member
set up

root temp around 80F
20-30 gallon air pump going into two air stones
RO water
keep plants around 1/4'' above the level of the water.
8 clones
1 26W 6500k floro light 2 feet above clones on 18/6 cycle

I cut clones bout 3 weeks ago 6 of 8 of the originals have been replaced because they yellowed up to much or started to shriveled up, or got blackish brown on tips of small growth. they dont seem to be dying any more just not rooting.

At first i tried to adjust the ph to 5.5 to 6.2 and two drops of super thrive in 5 gallons of water but the ph was all over. I read that i can just use plain RO. They have been in plain RO water for a week. the ph of RO water after a week is around 8 originally it is around 7.2. Do I need to lower this?

I cut clones with a clean knife then cut a 45 deg angle on them under ro water then scarped up the stem a little in one spot and set them in some cloning gel for 30 seconds. and put them in the cloner

a few day ago i ready about splitting the stem ends so i did that trying to get them to root.

The newer cut clones were cut from budding plants so this will make it harder

here are some pics, any suggestions why they are not rooting
 

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Xare

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Yellowing is a sign that the clone is starting to root, not dying. Do not throw away a cut if you see fan leaves going yellow.

Shriveling happens because you have the stem out of the water and they are not getting sufficient water to the stem. Just keep the stem in the water, its more reliable.

Brown growing tips could mean you are spraying them too much and they are rotting. The cloner should not require any misting at all. If they are wilting its because you need the stems in the water.

80 degree water is on the warm side and it risks Root or Stem slime growth. Shoot for 70-75

I do not worry about my PH. I fill the cloner up with 8.0 PH well water and do not adjust it. No roots - No need for PH adjustment.

Ive tried both the 45 degree angle cut and the stems sliced in half. Both rooted for me about the same time.

Just try to have patience. Keep them alive and they will root eventually.
 

billcollector99

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I am definitely going to be attempting to make a cloner like yours, I have the majority of stuff at the house already, and seeing that yours worked so well, I will try to emulate it as best as I can. Thank you for the details. + Rep BTW your WP looks amazing!!!!
 

SnOoPXIV

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75f !! you dont want the res temps high you want a cooler res temp because water holds more air around 60f-68f and at those temps you are gonna get furisum or root rot get a water chiller not a Aquarium heater
My first attempt at cloning was not going so well. So I built this bubble cloner to try and save them.

I was using peat pucks and on the 5th day I stopped spraying them, but it got hot that day the clones wilted.

I put them in a cool shady area and misted them while I made up this bubble cloner.

This was created with stuff lying around the house.





It took me a few hours to do all the work and I put the clones in it then went to bed.

When I woke up they looked much better, only 2 looked a bit wilted but they were stronger. And when I checked again hours later none of them looked wilted at all.

This pic was taken when I saw the 2 kinda wilty ones.

Ive noticed that I do not need to spray when using the bubble cloner, the leafs seem to stay a bit damp. Iam not sure if the water is wicking up the outside of the stem but its keeping them nice and damp.


The foam inserts you see are from a Pool Raft. I took a 2 inch hole drill and made the 40 cutouts. Then I cut them down the middle so you can separate them and put in a clone.

The holes in the lid are 1 and 3/4 inches. That way the foam inserts fit in nice and snug.

As you see I also cut the lid and placed it down in the rubbermaid. This is to avoid any leaks from the lid. It has holes in the handles, i filled them with a hot glue gun. The lid is resting on these handles on the inside of the rubbermaid.

The Aquarium heater / thermostat is working great so far, ive got the temps @ 75 degree's

I added a bit of rooting hormone and H2O2 to the water.


The rubbermaid I used is kinda big but its what I had, and this 40 spot cloner will be great for my needs. Because it takes so much water, I added some things in the bottom to take up water volume. 2 liters with water and rocks as ballast to keep them sunk.

I did this so the volume of the water is less and the bubblers have to oxygenate less water. I also have my bubblers resting on these.

Still the water is making the sides flex out a bit. Ive covered it with plastic wrap for now.

Ive ordered a stronger air pump and larger airstones, right now iam using a 4 inch stone and a 3 inch disk with two old aquarium pumps. The new pump iam getting is a 75 GPH dual pump to run two 12 inch airstones.

I sure hope this thing works for me. If they do root iam gonna transplant them into a Hempy SOG grow.
 

SnOoPXIV

Active Member
in DWC PH is gonna be your biggest concern always adjust your ph and keep it around 5.8 to 6.3 i usally have to adjust my ph every day and dam your roots are cooking at 80f i bet you thats why your clones are wilting
set up

root temp around 80F
20-30 gallon air pump going into two air stones
RO water
keep plants around 1/4'' above the level of the water.
8 clones
1 26W 6500k floro light 2 feet above clones on 18/6 cycle

I cut clones bout 3 weeks ago 6 of 8 of the originals have been replaced because they yellowed up to much or started to shriveled up, or got blackish brown on tips of small growth. they dont seem to be dying any more just not rooting.

At first i tried to adjust the ph to 5.5 to 6.2 and two drops of super thrive in 5 gallons of water but the ph was all over. I read that i can just use plain RO. They have been in plain RO water for a week. the ph of RO water after a week is around 8 originally it is around 7.2. Do I need to lower this?

I cut clones with a clean knife then cut a 45 deg angle on them under ro water then scarped up the stem a little in one spot and set them in some cloning gel for 30 seconds. and put them in the cloner

a few day ago i ready about splitting the stem ends so i did that trying to get them to root.

The newer cut clones were cut from budding plants so this will make it harder

here are some pics, any suggestions why they are not rooting
 
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